Skip to comments.Jeb Bush a formidable foe for emerging GOP field
Posted on 03/21/2014 5:06:43 AM PDT by COBOL2Java
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I will write-in Tom Cruz, hoping I have more choices down ticket.
Oh, wait, looks like Scott Brown (RINO carpetbagger NH) is running against Jeanne Shaheen (Communist carpetbagger NH).
Ah, another write-in opportunity - Testerman for Senate.
The press picks your President.
Why doesn’t the GOPe want to win back the White House?
Oh boy! New and original sucks. I love sequels and cover tunes best.
I disagree. I think they know, they just don’t care. They are exactly like libtards...they are smarter than us and know wants better for us than we do.
They do not. An entire generation of duds who in one way or another deconstructed Reaganism, which is utterly gone now.
The next designated loser for the GOPe, the Washington Generals of politics.
As as RATM would put it, "F YOU. I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!"
They want all the perks with none of the responsibility.
If that occurs, why bother even going to the polling place? I went in 2012, held my nose, and voted for Romney. I won't ever do that again. If the GOPe succeeds in getting someone like Bush nominated, we should all concede that the game is up, they've won, and just stay home.
Don't you people ever tire of posting this worn-out phrase? It wasn't clever at the beginning and it sure isn't now. Try to think of something that is.
“Why doesnt the GOPe want to win back the White House?”
It’s easier taking lobbyist payoffs and hiding in Congress.
Are these idiots kidding?
The same inevitability card that gives us Cornball again and certainly Lindsey Graham and Mitch McC too can easily yield Jebbie. It’s already started afresh with George P. for land commissioner, and he easily outpolled Cornball too. The voters are just too uninformed.
Actually, yes, I think you’re right. It’s sad what our party has turned into, how we now have to fight two enemies now on the political battlefield.
They are followers of Bbig Al
media establishment trying to get another democratic destroyer in office after this failure of a president. They are in for a big surprise.
“If the GOPe succeeds in getting someone like Bush nominated, we should all concede that the game is up, they’ve won, and just stay home.”
I disagree. I hit my limit last time with the whitewashed jackass ‘gentile’ aborter, and voted some third party name I have already forgotten. Staying home and disengaging indicates acceptance or despair. Voting AGAINST both of these fraudulent conspiracies called ‘parties’ indicates that you have hurled their bowls of slop back in their faces.
Don’t be the guy in rags in the corner of the cell. Be Spartacus.
Make them know fear.
Well, you can still go to the precinct and vote for a few down-ballot candidates if they are any good, which could be questionable too. The Republican primary voters just repeatedly leave us flat. Their lack of knowledge is shocking, but they know how to make money.
I think the key is that the GOP does not fear us. It is entirely possible that they have no intentions of winning. The upper echelons of the party are very content with the nice salaries and the invitations to the Washington parties. They will get these bennies regardless of whether the GOP candidates win—barring, of course, an insurrection that could remove them from their positions but hell, they keep losing and they keep their jobs, so why should this concern them? It’s just not much of a threat to them.
Except for Goldwater, republicans have always nominated the guy who was next in line.
In 2012, that means the nominee will be Jeb (the next Bush), Santorum (finished 2nd in 2012), Romney or Ryan.
For all practical purposes, the votes of “useless” third parties are not really counted. In liberal VA in 2013, for instance, it’s rarely mentioned that a liberal third-party candidate kept the winner from taking an outright majority. All we remember is that the “conservative” Republican lost.
Santorum is running and he won Iowa in 2012.
“is designed to anoint middle-of-the-road establishment players based on when it’s their turn. Now it’s Jeb’s turn. It’ll never be Rand Paul’s turn. “
That is wrong. It is now Jeb’s, Santorum’s, Romney or Ryan’s turn. Furthermore, if Rand Paul finishes 2nd in 2016, in 2020, it will be Rand Paul’s turn.
I agree with you that there is no real desire to win. There is no real -difference- in world view or culture, just in appointment lists and accounting methods.
I guess I will just continue electoral potshots at the polls as opportunity permits.
I’ve never used the phrase myself, but people in TX don’t believe it. They have George P. (2014!) to prove it. Apparently all Republicans except for a few Tea Party diehards voted for him, if they voted at all, that is.
Actually, I cast my last ballot in 2012. There was an election in my home state of Virginia in 2013, which I passed up, knowing that the liberals, concentrated in northern Virginia, have captured this state. And sure enough, the Democrats got the governorship, courtesy of the lowlifes in the counties surrounding Washington. Now, they have all the statewide offices, including both senators.
If the Republicans cannot win the big ones, I’m not concerned about what happens down-ballot. Sure, you could make a good case about why I should be concerned but I’m not. Illogical? Sure! But emotionally I’m moved toward just indifference at this point. I’m old and have no children, and thus there’s nothing personal in it for me.
The only thing that could get off my duff would be the nomination of Cruz for president. Nobody else, and particularly Rand Paul, whom I think is a closet liberal posing as a conservative.
You throw them out of office and they get a nice golden parachute in some K Street lobbying firm. Bingo, bango, way to make a cool million...
I know you are correct and that they will minimize it publicly. But if comparable numbers keep showing up to the polls and a growing percentage reject these BFF parties, at some point they will have to take notice. At this point I feel -no- obligation to the Republicans. At local levels, I will continue to vote Republican more often than not, but I am looking for reasons to vote against BOTH the D’s and R’s.
Ah, the old Inevitability card. Will that work again and again?
No reason why it shouldn't if the establishment has the money. Especially using fear of Hillary (if she gets the nomination) to 'enforce' their choice. Then get all the conservative media to back him; Thomas Sowell decided against Cruz. After all, he is the only one who has a chance to beat (fill in Democrat here)...
I can't wait till people here on FR start telling me that; and that if we don't march lock step behind him we must be Hillary supporters. /sarc
JEB, for the sake of your country and your mother, GIVE IT UP! We don’t want you.
Step away from the keyboard...
old frothy is running again?!?
well, good luck with that ...
Ah, conservatives and Tea Partiers can scream and yell all they want, believing they have influence in the Party.
But as far as Jeb, Karl Rove, the GOPe and the Inside-the-Beltway crowd is concerned, we're just specks on their Cheerios...
Not on me. I did that and still got The Sum Of All Fears in Obama, marxist bastard son of communist scum. Jeb Bush disgusts me. Cowards and fakirs all.
Sarah wont run.
Lee and Pence.. I don’t really know much about either, but wont matter even if they did run, the GOPe will get who they pick to win.
Of course he is. He has the whole GOP political machine behind him, as did his father, his brother, and every other RNC pre-packaged candidate who voters are told “is the only one who can reach across the aisles and win against the Democrats” (translation = will govern like a Democrat).
Terri Schiavo. He’s toast. Along with Shamnesty.
Why don’t they want to win the White House? Because then they would actually have to lead and that comes with too many risks they prefer to avoid. Better to maintain control of the party and be in the minority. That way, they get all the perks of being in the ruling elite and none of the headaches.
Oh Pleeze, really, Jeb? Just kill me now.
It’s easier in California, where it’s absolutely clear that the Loyal Opposition candidate has no chance of winning. There can be no claim that you’re wasting your vote by voting your conscience.
Somebody needs to loop Barbara Bush saying she doesn’t want another Bush in the WH.
No! A thousand times, no!!!!!!
We should send Jeb to Africa and the elephants can stomp the bush.
“...The GOPe has spoken...”
And we’ll respond with a write-in candidate.
This guy has raised so many trial balloons, he bankrupted the helium industry.
Go away, Jeb-—far far away.
LET'S STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE
Invading Iraq without provocation was a horrendous foreign policy decision devised by the neocons for their own self-serving reasons.
You remember the neocons---then-Pres Bush installed them in the WH---in their own Office of Special Ops where---they connived (using our tax dollars) to get the US to invade Iraq.
Bush actually believed the pukeneos when they said an INVASION would "bring peace" to the Mideast.
THE BIGGEST WHOPPER OF THEM ALL---Bush estimated the Iraq strike would cost $50-60 billion........then Bush publicly fired his aide, Larry Lindsey, because Lindsey dared to say the war might cost more like $100 billion. That was in 2007 dollars.
Iraq and Afghanistan today total about $3 TRILLION, and we're still pouring money down these rat holes........thanks to the neocons.
Predictably, the war profiteering was huge---the WSJ reported neocon guru is setting up his own oil company in Iraq (your tax dollars at work).
The US left Iraq with not a barrel of oil to our name.....and rivers of young blood spilled on its decrepit soil
MOMENTS TO REMEMBER--- On the eve of the US invasion of Iraq, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee heard testimony from Marine Corps Gen Anthony Zinni---and other US military experts ---that the so-called architects (they dared not say "neocon") of the Iraq invasion were totally ill-prepared for a post-combat occupation.
US military experts ridiculed the Bush administration claims that rebuilding could be achieved within two years, that the weapons of mass destruction would be destroyed-------and that a vibrant new political and economic system would emerge.
Over a decade later, Iraq---and the rest of the Mideast----has yet to create a viable political and economic system....a system that is totally incompatible w/ their archaic Islamicist thinking macerated in the vengeful dicta of the Koran.
LAUGH BREAK The pukeneos said the Mideast was "thirsting" for American-style democracy.
(waiting for hysterical laughter to die down)
Same place now known as a terrorist hellhole...
<><> Where trillions of US tax dollars were wasted and rivers of young blood were shed.
<><> Where the blood-thirsty Muslim Brotherhood has a stranglehold.
<><> Where neocon godfather and war profiteer, Richard Perle, is starting an oil company (your tax dollars at work).
It took the US over a decade to get out of Iraq....as the globe erupted into Mideast-centered terrorism.....and hate-filled Muslims set sail for America.
These are the glory days of the neocons--now -gearing up to relive those days w/ another gullible Bush.
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