Skip to comments.Elusive numbers make it hard to grade state’s health coverage [WA]
Posted on 03/23/2014 6:38:58 PM PDT by steve86
When we move past the March 31 deadline to sign up for health insurance for 2014, will we know how many uninsured Washington residents have been helped by the Affordable Care Act, with all its angst, infrastructure and expense?
Its a key question in judging the federal laws performance.
But to the dismay of the laws supporters, as well as its critics, that number is proving to be as slippery as a moss-covered sidewalk in springtime Seattle.
Isnt the goal of the entire act supposed to be about covering people who were not covered before? asked State Sen. Bruce Dammeier, R-Puyallup, who grilled Richard Onizuka, CEO of the Washington Health Benefit Exchange, in a recent legislative committee work session. This is a critical number that really should determine the success or failure of the program.
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And the nagging question continues to lurk: How many of those 470,000 were previously uninsured?
Good management involves metrics. Either they have no metrics (bad management) or they have metrics and they are ashamed. Either way, there is no ways these people have demonstrated competence.
Isnt the goal of the entire act supposed to be about covering people who were not covered before?
From a article about a month ago, how many have actually paid the premiums for the ObamaCare plan?
Let me just say that without a precise counting, my son, DIL, grandson, granddaughter, my cousin, her husband, their twins, a friend couple with two children, the couple who owns a local spa, a couple who own a local restaurant, two other friends, and myself are counted in that number signed up. All were previously insured. All have lost their doctors, even those on the gold plan.
There are more, of course, this is just a small count of my closest friends and family.
Any webpage has a counter that can tell you how many people have looked at the page and where they are generally located in the country and state. Any site that sells anything has an e-commerce package that tells you that you have a sale and will tell you their names and credit card numbers and what time of day the sale was made.
Saying you have trouble finding out the “true” numbers is telling us that obama and the democrats are lying again.
obamacare is a huge failure no matter what Jimmy Fallon and Ellen DeGeneres say.
From Detailed February Status Report:
Qualified Health Plan (Paid Subsidized): 84,982
Qualified Health Plan (Paid Non-Subsidized): 20,422
Qualified Health Plan (Need to Pay): 80,841
It is not difficult to determine how many have enrolled and paid (see #8); it is a lot harder to determine how many were uninsured previously.
The more important question for the state will be how many were eligible for the traditional Medicaid criteria and therefore be the responsibility of the state. Back in December when the first numbers were released the vast majority of people enrolled in the program were going into Medicaid, and about half of them were eligible for the old Medicaid .
Yep, traditional Medicaid enrollees get traditional funding.
As expected, people who cannot afford health insurance want FREE health insurance.
In January 2013, about 990,000 Washington residents did not have health insurance.
By January 2018, the Washington state goal was to enroll 338,000 of those people in Medicaid, which is free.
So what happened?
By March 2014 - almost FOUR YEARS before the goal - Washington state enrolled 357,000 previously uninsured residents in Medicaid!
What was the goal for paid policies?
By January 2018, the Washington state goal was to enroll 471,000 previously uninsured residents in paid policies.
By March 2014, just 112,000 residents signed up for paid policies, and no one knows how many of those people were previously uninsured.
Most Current Statistics
01 October 2013 - 13 March 2014
Medicaid - Renewal - 370,000
Medicaid - Previously Eligible - 122,000 (First Time Enrolled)
Medicaid - Eligible Under New Rules - 235,000
Paid Policy Applicants - First Month Paid - 112,000 (61%)
Paid Policy Applicants - Have Not Paid - 72,000 (39%)
RE: “The more important question for the state will be how many were eligible for the traditional Medicaid criteria and therefore be the responsibility of the state.”
122,000 - As of 13 March 2014.
From memory - the average total cost of one person on Medicaid is $5,500.
I’ll guess that amount will drop some because quite a few people will sign up for Medicaid now who are completely healthy, just to have insurance for emergencies.
So, I’ll estimate the “newbies” will cost Washington state about $2,000 a head, or about an extra $250 million per year.
Please see my Posts #13 and #14 for additional details.
Was that the cost of claims paid out or the capitation cost per subscriber?
Total claims divided by total subscribers.
The last figures I remember were about 75 million subscribers and $410 billion in costs.
The totals usually take more than a year to come out, so that might be a 2011 number, I can’t recall.
Many people do not spend a full year on Medicaid, so, honestly, I do not recall how they figure total subscribers.