bingo... long as they're wet they won't rot
Posted on 03/23/2014 8:49:45 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus
The fatal explosion in East Harlem this month added an exclamation point to a report calling for New York City to deal with its crumbling infrastructure.
The March 12 blast, which killed eight people and reduced two tenements to rubble, came one day after the Center for an Urban Future issued the report, which identified $47 billion in capital needs over five years for the nation's biggest city.
While the tragedy focused attention New York's 6,300 miles of gas mains, which average 56 years old, according to the report, it also fueled concern over the potentially dire consequences of delay by city, regional and state agencies in shoring up the area's aging bridges, roads and school buildings.
Mayor Bill de Blasio might get his expanded pre-kindergarten at Albany's expense, but could bridges the kids cross collapse like the I-35 span in Minneapolis seven years ago? Will their classroom roofs cave in?
"It seems like we've started a conversation," said Jonathan Bowles, the center's executive director.
On March 21, engineer and transportation guru Sam Schwartz steered the conversation to transportation, resuming his call for a congestion-easing plan that he said could raise $1.5 billion annually for road and bridge repair. "The federal government isn't going to rescue us. We need some solutions," he said at an infrastructure forum at Baruch College in Manhattan, sponsored by the Regional Plan Association.
I didn’t post that...
“They were spending money on all the wrong things for years.”
This is the case throughout much of the northeast, and I suspect in many older urban areas throughout the country. So much of the revenues end up in the pockets of government workers, and little is maintained/replaced. On top of the deferred maintenance of the infrastructure, there are massive pension liabilities that have been eating up current revenue. Rather than be soaked to pay for people who stopped working decades ago, companies (and where possible, their employees) are fleeing these high costs, shrinking the tax base.
A real eye-opener was when NY state and the city were fighting to have the bailed-out banks giver their senior employees their annual bonuses; both the state and the city (which has its own income tax) were dependent on the tax revenue generated by those bonuses.
I see the condition of some of my children’s textbooks, and you’d think they were attending a missionary school in West Africa; the same problem is happening in schools (to the point where it is in our tax code that teachers can get credit or deductions for school supplies they buy themselves). It is a disgrace, and few pliticians will address it.
Many will simply refuse.
The New York Post reported that that the tenets of the exploded buildings had smelled gas for almost two years!
Much of the natural gas pipeline system was constructed in the 1930s and 1940s before many of the then small towns and rural areas across the country were developed into today’s larger cities and suburban areas. Learn about the development of the system across the Southwest US,[6] Southeast,[7] Western US,[8] Midwest US,[9] and Northeast US[10] Much of the gas pipeline was made—and continues to be made today – {of steel in diameters of 6 inches to up to 48 inches.}
Been in the NG business since 1974 and some the lines we replaced were 30+ years old then, never saw a cast iron Gas line. Lead and oakum joints with cast iron pipe were for sewer not NG.
I don’t see Idaho or Nevada on the list. Why?
Well I just know what I know man. I dug up prob more gas lines with a 580 case and replaced them than most people.
Ng will follow a ditch line and surface at the least amount of resistance such as a foundation wall and can collect under a structure and then be captured in that space and explode!If I’m wrong I’m wrong. Fine you win the urine contest!
NG lines can also be compromised with electrolysis at the entry point of a structure if they are in contact with a concrete block creating a hole in the line allowing NG to enter the dwelling!
These are not things I have read about but what I have witnessed! I will be corrected on one item. NG piping is constructed of sch 40 Iron Pipe with malleable fitting of cast iron. Normally referred to as T&C which means threaded and coupled.
A physical representation of a spiritual condition.
“fixing” the NYC infrastructure will cost upwards of 1,000,000,000,000..
My only concern was the CAST IRON Pipe with jute and lead joints and so called wet joints still in service conveying NG the reporter is mistaken! I will call the NYC NG provider tomorrow and ask this question! And will re-post!
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/html/news/dep_stories_p2-101.shtml
Wooden Mains from the 1820’s discovered in NYC 2006...
bingo... long as they're wet they won't rot
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