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Judge Rules Justina Pelletier to Remain in State’s Custody
The Blaze ^ | 3/25/14 | Liz Klimas

Posted on 03/25/2014 3:07:26 PM PDT by blueyon

A Massachusetts judge ruled Tuesday that the Connecticut teen in the middle of a contentious custody battle between her parents and the state will remain in the custody of the Massachusetts Department of Children and Families.

The Boston Globe reported that Suffolk County juvenile court Judge Joseph Johnson granted “permanent” custody to the state DCF, leaving it up to the agency to decide if and when 15-year-old Justina Pelletier is returned to her parents’ custody. This decision was in response to a motion filed by Linda and Lou Pelletier, Justina’s parents, and her court-lawyer attorney for a “conditional custody” plan.

Mat Staver, attorney and founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel, told TheBlaze as he understands the order that was filed with the clerk Tuesday afternoon, the DCF will retain custody of Justina until May 25 at which point another hearing will be held.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bostonhospital; corruption; dcf; freejustina; justina; ma; pelletier
Outrageous. My heart breaks for this family and the injustice being done
1 posted on 03/25/2014 3:07:27 PM PDT by blueyon
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To: blueyon

It’s time for open rebellion. States taking children from their parents on a whim is beyond tyranny!!!


2 posted on 03/25/2014 3:09:09 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: blueyon
This will allow the State to Continue to do
research on the child which the State has been killing.

This is the young woman before
... and after State interference.


3 posted on 03/25/2014 3:13:37 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: blueyon

I would have sworn that there was a story a week or so ago about her being returned to her family. This is just getting more and more confusing.


4 posted on 03/25/2014 3:14:35 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: blueyon

This judge’s “decision” is, in essence, a NON-DECISION. The judge is every-bit as evil as the State and medical torturers of this young girl.


5 posted on 03/25/2014 3:16:38 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: blueyon

Her case is a cautionary tale of what happens when the state has too much power over your children.

Sad to say, I think she will end up Dying in state custody because the state needs he to die in order for them to cover state incompetence.


6 posted on 03/25/2014 3:18:40 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: blueyon

Any parent with minor children ought to be planning to move out of Massachusetts.


7 posted on 03/25/2014 3:24:40 PM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: GraceG

This state is a Communist joke run by cheating Unions and crooked Democrats.
Judge is a typical hack POS.


8 posted on 03/25/2014 3:25:43 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: blueyon

Massachusetts is killing this girl.

May these pols and their political and medical toadies die slow, horrible deaths.

Harvard is NOT worth this. Go elsewhere.


9 posted on 03/25/2014 3:29:05 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: andyk

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/03/justina-pelletier-mitochondrial-massachusetts-family/

Per the above article, she’s being treated at the medical facility of the family’s choice.

But she’s not in her family’s custody.

IIRC, one of the other children has the same condition (or was it their mom; I forget).


10 posted on 03/25/2014 3:34:35 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

Ah, thanks. I knew something had changed.


11 posted on 03/25/2014 3:35:23 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: blueyon

You knew this when the little worm announced he would release his decision by fax.


12 posted on 03/25/2014 3:41:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: andyk

And she’s away from the facility where they said it was “all in her head”....

The legislators are aware of it and hopefully they can curtail the power of these intrusive (insert bad language here) psych department people.

A big question I have is:

How can a psychiatric condition cause somebody to go from ice skating to being in a wheelchair ?


13 posted on 03/25/2014 3:42:10 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: blueyon

A visit to the doctor’s office is now a roll of the dice with CPS.


14 posted on 03/25/2014 3:42:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: blueyon
Under Ubamacare, all medical conditions will be diagnosed as somatoform disease.

It's all in your head. Now get into this straitjacket or we will tase you.

15 posted on 03/25/2014 3:44:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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To: blueyon

The state of MA is purposely murdering this child.


16 posted on 03/25/2014 3:45:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: WildHighlander57; andyk
Your article is dated March 3rd. Here is an article published today.

‘Permanent’ custody of Justina Pelletier awarded to Mass. March 25, 2014

A long-running child custody case took a dramatic turn Tuesday, when a Massachusetts juvenile court judge awarded “permanent” custody of teen-ager Justina Pelletier to the state Department of Children and Families. The ruling by Judge Joseph Johnston leaves it up to the agency, not the court, to decide whether or when Pelletier should be returned to her West Hartford, Conn., home.

(snip)

This person said the state, which has had temporary custody of Pelletier for more than a year, has no immediate plans to have the 15-year-old sent back home, or to a facility in her home state.

(snip)

Pelletier is at a residential facility in Framingham, Wayside Youth and Family Support Network, and it remains unclear whether or when the state child-protection agency will act on its stated efforts to get the girl back to her home state. Its previous efforts to try to find a residential treatment center for her in Connecticut have failed, largely due to the reluctance of many providers to get involved in a

high-profile controversy.

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Mahoney, the parents’ spokesman, said they are questioning why their daughter has yet to be seen by physicians at Tufts, including her long-time metabolism specialist, Dr. Mark Korson, despite the state’s stated wish earlier this month to transfer the girl’s primary medical care from Children’s to Tufts.

She has not been returned to Tufts and hasn't been seen by any doctor from Tufts.

17 posted on 03/25/2014 3:56:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: All
Link to FR thread on the article linked in my previous post...

‘Permanent’ custody of Justina Pelletier awarded to Mass.

18 posted on 03/25/2014 4:02:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Very, very scary.


19 posted on 03/25/2014 4:42:04 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: andyk

I also thought she had been returned to her parents and couldn’t believe this judge ruling this way. I tuned into Howie Carr (via computer) and he had a state legislator on talking about the case.

I’m wondering why Connecticut is doing nothing. I guess they’re busy trying to confiscate guns.


20 posted on 03/25/2014 4:47:09 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: combat_boots
Massachusetts is killing this girl.

According to the Howie Carr show this afternoon the state was ordered to re-start her medication but the state has refused. The child has been deprived of medication, education and religious support for a year!!! The family is Catholic and she is not allowed to have religious services. She is being held against her will and against the family's will.

BTW there are four or five other recent cases where families have brought their child to Children's Hospital in Boston and they have lost custody of their children. ALL of those cases involved parents from out of state. There is a 40M lawsuit pending from a European family that lost custody.

21 posted on 03/25/2014 4:52:51 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: blueyon

The poor kid could well die because her disease is not being treated. Should that happen,I hope the parents sue the hell out of the doctors who misdiagnosed her and Boston Children’s Hospital for malpractice.


22 posted on 03/25/2014 4:55:01 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: blueyon
The judge's decision is here.
23 posted on 03/25/2014 5:01:55 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

The Judge was chosen based upon who nominated him
so that the child would remain a prisoner of the State,
-— and not because of his knowledge of pathology.


24 posted on 03/25/2014 5:10:28 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: blueyon
It appears the authorities have decided to keep her locked up and isolated from care until she dies and then cremate the body to destroy the evidence. What else makes any sense?

It is only a matter of time before somebody who loses their loved one like this ends up taking note of the names and addresses of said "authorities" and takes his own revenge in his own sweet time. The "authorities" and their "courts" won't be involved until they finally catch him - unless he catches them first.

25 posted on 03/25/2014 5:32:22 PM PDT by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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To: blueyon
We need to permit Putin to annex Massatushits.

26 posted on 03/25/2014 6:10:05 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: blueyon

BOSTON GLOBE: “The judge made his order retroactive to late December, so a review could occur as soon as early summer.”

So now with one sweeping decision all that has come to light recently, all that happened while the State had custody...boy that’s convenient -retroactively. This all reeks of CYA, this judge is a coward.


27 posted on 03/25/2014 6:15:48 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: blueyon

Today, audio archive...

Howie Carr: Pelletier Shocker
http://audio.wrko.com/a/89344393/pelletier-shocker.htm


28 posted on 03/25/2014 6:26:13 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: TigersEye

Thanks for the clarification; I got the two conflated to mean she was in cps custody but going to original doc.

What’s going on here; how often does this happen? I mean, is everyone in danger of losing their children when they disagree with a medic’s opinion/treatment/diagnosis?

Is there a piece of information that is missing?


29 posted on 03/25/2014 6:31:14 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

Not that I am aware of and I've followed this story fairly well. Apparently this hospital has done this with other out of state children before according to another poster. Not sure if it was said on this thread or the other one.

30 posted on 03/25/2014 6:34:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

Other out of state children? ??

How many are needed for a class action lawsuit? ?

(Blood is boiling now...)


31 posted on 03/25/2014 7:11:07 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: blueyon

Queue the video at 12 minutes and you’ll see a DCFS Director from California comment on Mass DCFS failures...

The Fight over Justina: Medical Child Abuse by Parents or Abuse of Power by a Hospital? (March 17, 2014)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvUevrJ6S5k


32 posted on 03/25/2014 7:36:51 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: WildHighlander57
Here is the post I was referring to. Just a few posts above on this thread.

Class action lawsuit sounds about right to me. Other solutions I am thinking of are probably best left unsaid.

33 posted on 03/25/2014 7:48:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: blueyon

The psychologist assigned to the case has a research program somatoform disorder and written four papers on somatoform disorder. In one paper she postulates that as much as 50% pediatric illness is somatoform disorder, in other words they are faked symptoms/disorders.

Queue the video at 17:45...

The Fight over Justina: Medical Child Abuse by Parents or Abuse of Power by a Hospital? (March 17, 2014)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvUevrJ6S5k

[ Truth be known and this women’s career/reputation is finish along with tens of millions in liability, she would rather see Justina die quietly in custody. This women is an Obamacare death panel superstar, that’s what’s at stake. ]


34 posted on 03/25/2014 8:17:28 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Fitzy_888

I watched it from the start and it is worth it to get the whole picture. The video is 44 minutes but the Pelletier story only goes to 33 minutes.


35 posted on 03/25/2014 8:27:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: blueyon

Dr. I. SIMONA BUJOREANU
http://www.ratemds.com/doctor-ratings/3119976/Dr-I.+SIMONA-BUJOREANU-Boston-MA.html

In the comments...

“This psychologist has overturn medical doctors who have specialists in complex medical cases due to her ego and has imprisoned sick children in lockdown psych wards... She seems to want to create psychological problems rather than help them.”


36 posted on 03/25/2014 8:44:54 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: blueyon

Current Opinion in Pediatrics:
August 2011 - Volume 23 - Issue 4 - p 384–389

Approach to psychosomatic illness in adolescents
Ibeziako, Patricia; Bujoreanu, Simona

Abstract

Purpose of review: Due to the increased prevalence of psychosomatic presentations and the difficulty of managing such patients, this article summarizes the latest findings for identifying individual and family risk factors, and new trends in the evaluation and management of pediatric patients with psychosomatic illness.

Recent findings: Up to 50% of patients in pediatric care will complain of medically unexplained symptoms with significant functional and emotional impairment. Such patients place heavy burdens on the healthcare system (frequent utilization of health resources and hospitalizations, specialist consultations, unnecessary investigations, and treatments). Somatoform disorders in pediatric care are associated with risks for psychiatric co-morbidity (anxiety and depressive disorders), family conflict, parent-perceived ill health, and school problems/absenteeism.

Summary: Gaining expertise in addressing pediatric psychosomatic illness can make a great difference in patients’ life and in physicians’ professional satisfaction. Effective treatment approaches involve a multidisciplinary approach to consolidate care and facilitate communication, target the patient/family’s understanding of the mind–body relationship and their acceptance of the bio-psycho-social formulation and treatment, and utilize functional rehabilitation and cognitive behavioral therapy for the individual and family and management guidance for schools.

[ Bujoreanu (an author to that above) is the psychologist that diagnosed Somatiform disorder in Justina. To the extent all that above sounds like Obamacare death panel type business, well now you know why there is no coverage of this story by the MSM. If children were systematically denied care the liability will be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. ]


37 posted on 03/25/2014 9:05:01 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Fitzy_888
Dr. I. SIMONA BUJOREANU

No one is very proud of this monster. I couldn't find any pics of her and BCH makes no mention of her name on their website.

38 posted on 03/25/2014 9:10:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Fitzy_888

Fitzy,

You just connected the dots!
Follow the money...there is a huge conflict of interest here.... she stands to gain MONETARILY from the research... and the children are being sucked into this scheme!!

Labelling a genetic disorder as psychosomatic????

Somebody.... legal-wise throw the book at her!


39 posted on 03/25/2014 9:40:18 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: blueyon

The Just-us System.

Working as intended.


40 posted on 03/25/2014 10:09:45 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: blueyon

There’s something wrong with this story. Somebody is hiding something and I’m betting it’s DCF. I’m going to do some research and see what information I can dig up. Let me lay out the facts as we know them.

The Pelletier family says that Justina and her older sister have mitochondrial disease. They were being treated at Tufts Medical Center in Boston by Dr. Mark Korson for the disease. Now Boston Children’s Hospital is saying it’s somatoform pain disorder, which is a psychiatric problem, and that the parents refuse to acknowledge it. OK. Those are the facts.

Tufts Medical Center and Boston Children’s Hospital are both part of the same health system. Neither are quack facilities, so we know that it wasn’t some woo-meister trying to treat the mitochondrial disease with magnets or some such.

Since Korson is supporting the Pelletiers and other rare disease people are striking up for the girl, I think DCF is full of it. Somebody has got to get the medical evidence to judge, along with experts to give testimony on the matter.


41 posted on 03/26/2014 3:18:53 AM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: WildHighlander57

The psycholist put this kid in a standing rig to force her to walk, probably telling her she’s a faker in the process. If the psychologist is wrong we can well assume her ego and personal ambitious were contributing factors. If the psychologist is wrong and now seeking to mitigate the liability for the sake of her ego than is malpractice approaching Joseph Mengele territory. The liability is unlimited.

Note that judge here was theoretically the custodian for the child during the process these last 13-14 months. He just gave retroactive custody to DCFS in his judgment Yesterday. He knows they are all going to burn if this girl should live long enough to sware out an affidavit or worse testifies against them in open court.

This is what death panels will look like, if they make a mistake they may well actively seek to kill you to protect careers and avoid liability.


42 posted on 03/26/2014 4:58:13 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Gritty
she'll be able to make her own decisions when she is 18..she'll be able to appoint her own attorney....at least she has that....

right now, the judge clown is just playing along in the CYA mode for the state.......

let the govt into your life and this is what happens...

43 posted on 03/26/2014 9:25:40 AM PDT by cherry
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To: TigersEye

Well, only a precious few protested while the state of Florida and a judge in Florida was complicit in murdering Terry Schiavo, so there’s already precedent. Do our public “servants” actually care what we say or think? OK, maybe a few, like Governor Rick Perry, who changed course on immunizations and listened to his state residents.

But otherwise, what can we do about it if they don’t? How many *actually* pay a price at the ballot box, if at all?


44 posted on 03/26/2014 9:51:36 AM PDT by mbj (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: mbj
But otherwise, what can we do about it if they don’t?

As I said on another thread on another subject...

“Progressives need some first hand exposure to hemp. Rope.”

45 posted on 03/26/2014 12:27:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Fitzy_888

What Mass. is doing to this family is CRIMINAL! Watch the Dr. Phil episode where all the facts are laid out. Its stunning that the state would not let her go home after this information was presented on Dr. Phil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm08wEWYIsM

These people are good people, they have 3 other daughters who are wonderful and normal except one of them also has the same condition.


46 posted on 03/26/2014 12:41:22 PM PDT by bigtoona
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To: blueyon

Tell Elected Officials From Massachusetts And Connecticut: “Free Justina Now!”

http://www.grassrootsaction.com/201118/offer.asp?Ref_ID=25631&CID=201115&RID=38315346


47 posted on 03/26/2014 7:03:44 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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