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Mom of transgender child wants ID rules changed
CBC News ^ | March 25, 2014 | Bonnie Allen

Posted on 03/25/2014 3:44:18 PM PDT by Loyalist

The mother of a transgender child wants the Saskatchewan government to remove any record of a person's sex on birth certificates.

Fran Forsberg has filed a complaint to Saskatchewan's Human Rights Commission on behalf of her six-year-old child, Renn, after the province's Vital Statistics Agency refused to change Renn's sex designation from "Male" to "Female" on the youngster's birth records.

Renn was born with male genitalia but has identified as a girl since the age of three. According to the Canadian Pediatric Society, children establish their gender identity between 18 to 30 months. When Forsberg sought to change Renn's birth record, she submitted reports from a physician and psychologist confirming that Renn identifies as a female. The Vital Statistics Agency, however, was not moved.

In Saskatchewan, Forsberg learned a resident can only change the sex designation on a birth certificate after undergoing sex reassignment surgery, a requirement that is considered discriminatory in the province of Ontario.

"We used to have race on our birth certificates — also, what your father did for a living. It's irrelevant," Forsberg told CBC News. "What I would like to see is for gender to be removed completely from birth certificates."

The Forsberg family first realized that Renn, six, didn't feel like a boy inside when she started self-harming about three years ago. Renn would bang her head against the wall unless she was allowed to wear girls' clothing and be called a girl.

Today, her older sister, Krista, 11, likes to help Renn pick her outfits, ranging from black sequin halter dresses to pink frilly gowns. Renn is also allowed to use the girl's bathroom at her elementary school.

"We think people should accept other people for who they are, and not judge them for who they're not," Krista said.

The Forsbergs decided to go public with their campaign, arguing that staying quiet only adds to stigma and discrimination.

"I want people to understand that my kids do not have an issue with their gender or their gender expression," Forsberg said. "It is society's issue."

Changes made in Ontario

Forsberg said that when the gender marker — M or F — on a birth certificate, driver's licence, or passport doesn't match one's physical presentation, it triggers confusion and discrimination.

The Ontario government changed its legislation after the province's Human Rights Tribunal ruled that it's discriminatory to require transgender people to undergo surgery before changing the sex designation on their birth certificates in a decision in 2012.

While the change was celebrated as the first legislation of its kind in Canada, many were not satisfied because it doesn't apply to children under 18 and a person must still present a doctor's note that verifies their gender identity.

The B.C. government is now poised to pass similar legislation regarding its records, after pressure from Harriette Cunningham, 10, who was born a boy but identifies as a girl.

The proposed B.C. legislation falls short of Cunningham's request that gender markers be removed entirely from government-issued ID.

'M' and 'F' add nothing to passports, lawyer says

While birth certificates fall under provincial jurisdiction, they're required for passports issued by the federal government.

Barbara Findlay, a lawyer from Vancouver, has launched a legal challenge to have M and F removed from passports. She reasons that compared to photographs and other biometric security features, a gender marker adds little information.

"If you're going to use a document for identification purposes, and it has photograph on it, a gender marker adds nothing," Findlay said. Since 2011, Australia has allowed citizens to mark an "X" for gender on their passport, rather than "M" or "F." New Zealand followed suit. And in 2013, a new law in Germany allows parents of intersex infants to leave their gender unstated, or "blank," on birth certificates.

Forsberg family is united

At the Forsberg home, Renn's siblings, Tana and Krista, say they've been taught to stand up for themselves and be proud of who they are.

Renn's big brother, Tana, 9, isn't transgender but likes to experiment with girl's clothing. He wears costumes and wigs to church and once entered a drag queen competition. He has also posed as a girl on posters and billboards for the "Pink Revolution" campaign, which is intended to educate people about different gender presentations.

Tana said he has learned to defend himself at school. "Somebody walked up to me and said, 'Are you a girl or a gay boy?' I said, 'Does it really matter?'" he told CBC News.

Their mother said it is important to foster a healthy self-esteem in her children.

According to the Public Health Agency of Canada, an estimated 20 to 30 per cent of transgender youth have attempted suicide.

Forsberg said filing the human rights complaint is part of making systematic change.

"I don't want my kids to think that they have something to hide or that they have something to be ashamed about, because they don't," she said. "And people who are unkind to children like this, they're the ones who should be ashamed and hiding."


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: childabuse; sex; transgender
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To: Loyalist

Until DNA can be changed, on the inside you are what you are born. No matter what is taken off or added to your body.


21 posted on 03/25/2014 4:07:15 PM PDT by zlala (Thank you for the ultimate sacrifice Capt. Aaron R. Blanchard, KIA 4-23-13, Pul-E-Alam, Afghanistan.)
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To: Loyalist
"We think people should accept other people for who they are, and not judge them for who they're not," Krista said.
I am rejecting them for who they.
22 posted on 03/25/2014 4:08:54 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Loyalist

Liberal child raising..this kid is screwed up for LIFE


23 posted on 03/25/2014 4:09:32 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Loyalist

There’s no father mentioned. It sounds like this is a mother determined to force her sons to be girls.


24 posted on 03/25/2014 4:09:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Nothing is more serious than our sins, which can destroy us forever." ~Msgr. Pope)
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To: Loyalist
"We think people should accept other people for who they are, and not judge them for who they're not," Krista said.

??? The kid's a boy. Biological reality that can be tested and scientifically verified doesn't count as objective truth, but what falsehood one might be convinced of in his own mind, well now that's reality? Feelings and delusions - all the proof that need present itself.

How long before someone self identifies as a dog, and then it (or its "owner") sues pet groomers for discrimination?

A while back on FR was an article about a weirdo acting as if he/she were a dog, with the roommate as its keeper, but the freaks hadn't yet taken it to the level of lawsuits. When society gets to the point where anything goes, the countdown clock has about run out.

25 posted on 03/25/2014 4:13:02 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Loyalist

When I was three I “identified” as our dog. I grew out of it though. By the time I was six I “identified” as a cowboy.


26 posted on 03/25/2014 4:18:42 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: struggle

Ok. Thanks. I guess my kids were a little older, doing other things back then.


27 posted on 03/25/2014 4:26:10 PM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: George from New England

What if the kid is a hermaphrodite?


28 posted on 03/25/2014 4:26:39 PM PDT by NathanR
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To: Loyalist

It is a chromo....... xyx chromosones


29 posted on 03/25/2014 4:29:15 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Loyalist

So if he and she are off the table, does she call her kid an it? Does she call herself an it?


30 posted on 03/25/2014 4:31:43 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Loyalist
"We think people should accept other people for who they are, and not judge them for who they're not," Krista said.

Gee, reality sucks, doesn't it? I think people should accept other people for who AND WHAT they REALLY are, and not for what or who those people imagine themselves to be or wish to be.

31 posted on 03/25/2014 4:32:15 PM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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To: Loyalist

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104426/scramble-its-brains-or-vacuum-it-out


32 posted on 03/25/2014 4:35:12 PM PDT by montag813
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To: faithhopecharity

Tell me about it, this is totally insane. A kid could be playing around with his sister playing with Barbie dolls or the sister dresses him up for fun and mommy decides he needs a sex change? WHAT? What the hell does a kid know about sex at that age? This is beyond child abuse, this is forcing the kid to commit suicide when he grows up. Gee thanks a lot mom.


33 posted on 03/25/2014 4:37:21 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Loyalist

“His crazy mother has probably observed some silly behaviour and interpreted it this way, but he is still a boy.”

Absolutely! She’s encouraged him and is now pushing an agenda.

My grand baby is 2-1/2 and says she’s gonna marry me. The next day, she’s gonna marry the dog. It’s the adorable innocence of a child and nothing more.


34 posted on 03/25/2014 4:38:24 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: Loyalist

“According to the Canadian Pediatric Society, children establish their gender identity between 18 to 30 months.”

Quacks.


35 posted on 03/25/2014 4:40:59 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Loyalist

Renn is mentally ill.


36 posted on 03/25/2014 4:48:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Loyalist
"What I would like to see is for gender to be removed completely from birth certificates."

This is a perfectly sane and excellent idea. Instead of "male" or "female", Birth certificates will now list the chromosome content of the person. Thanks for thinking up this idea!

37 posted on 03/25/2014 4:49:00 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Loyalist

Tyranny of the depraved idiots.


38 posted on 03/25/2014 4:52:22 PM PDT by Gamecock (Atheists: “There is no God and I hate Him.”)
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To: struggle

I miss that Cartoon Ren and Stimpy


39 posted on 03/25/2014 4:52:46 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Loyalist
According to the Canadian Pediatric Society, children establish their gender identity between 18 to 30 months.

What a steaming pantload.

40 posted on 03/25/2014 4:56:34 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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