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Why 'Moderate Islam' is an Oxymoron
Middle East Forum ^ | March 24, 2014 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 03/27/2014 12:05:48 PM PDT by shepardspie33

At a time when terrorism committed in the name of Islam is rampant, we are continuously being assured—especially by three major institutions that play a dominant role in forming the Western mindset, namely, mainstream media, academia, and government—that the sort of Islam embraced by "radicals," "jihadis," and so forth, has nothing to do with "real" Islam.

"True" Islam, so the narrative goes, is intrinsically free of anything "bad." It's the nut-jobs who hijack it for their own agenda that are to blame.

More specifically, we are told that there exists a "moderate" Islam and an "extremist" Islam—the former good and true, embraced by a Muslim majority, the latter a perverse sacrilege practiced by an exploitative minority.

But what do these dual adjectives—"moderate" and "extremist"—ultimately mean in the context of Islam? Are they both equal and viable alternatives insofar as to how Islam is understood? Are they both theologically legitimate? This last question is particularly important, since Islam is first and foremost a religious way of life centered around the words of a deity (Allah) and his prophet (Muhammad)—the significance of which is admittedly unappreciated by secular societies.

Both terms—"moderate" and "extremist"—have to do with degree, or less mathematically,zeal: how much, or to what extent, a thing is practiced or implemented. As Webster's puts it, "moderate" means "observing reasonable limits"; "extremist" means "going to great or exaggerated lengths."

It's a question, then, of doing either too much or too little.

(Excerpt) Read more at meforum.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: democrats; ibrahim; islam; mediabias; muslim; muslims; rop; terrorism

1 posted on 03/27/2014 12:05:48 PM PDT by shepardspie33
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2 posted on 03/27/2014 12:09:41 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: shepardspie33
Taqiyya (sp?). You can't trust a word a Muslim says, even if he claims to be a "moderate". It's his duty to lie to "infidels".

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

3 posted on 03/27/2014 12:11:56 PM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: shepardspie33
That's two oxymorons. We should start a list.

1) "sodomite (gay) rights"
2) "moderate Islam"

What else?

4 posted on 03/27/2014 12:12:13 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Servant of the Cross

That kid on the far left has his eyes closed. How’s he supposed to kill Jews like that?


5 posted on 03/27/2014 12:18:48 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: shepardspie33

Moderate bearded savages?


6 posted on 03/27/2014 12:27:40 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: PapaNew

President Obama


7 posted on 03/27/2014 12:33:16 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: shepardspie33

“True” Islam, so the narrative goes, is intrinsically free of anything “bad.”

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I guess that the murder and prosecution of non-believers, as promoted and encouraged by the Koran, is not considered “bad”.

And we as a nation swallow that crap, line, hook and sinker and allow this debauched “religion” to prosper among us until the day it will strike.

Hey you congress critters, I thought you were the guardians of our freedoms. Do something about it — if it’s not for us, do it for your children. They too will be victims when the time comes that sharia is established.


8 posted on 03/27/2014 12:33:19 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: PapaNew

3) Same sex marriage.


9 posted on 03/27/2014 12:34:33 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: shepardspie33
According to Islam, Muhummed was THE exemplar of the perfect Muslim man. He killed those who refused to convert. Therefore, any Muslim who kills an unbeliever is taking the Prophet as his moral guide. Hence, the 911 highjackers were following Muhammed's example and are assured of a place in Islam's whorehouse heaven.
10 posted on 03/27/2014 12:34:48 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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11 posted on 03/27/2014 12:51:41 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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In fact, Muhammad was quite proud of his actions in personally beheading 400 Jewish captives.

Why do so many Christians believe Muhammad and Christ were the same sort of person, with the same outlook? Do they believe that Christ, if he had a motto, it would be the same one Muhammad was so thrilled to recite?

I think it should be mandatory that professing Christians read all five of Islam's ‘sacred’ works - not just the Quran. How many Christians know that the word ‘love’ is only mentioned once in the Quran?

They must read the Hadiths and Sunnahs which chronicle the life and sayings of Mo: the Hadiths are Talibari, Muslim, Isaq; Bukhari; Hadiths are the Sunnahs - Mohammed's word to his followers, The Sunnahs are the history of Muhammad and his motto (sic) was “Kill, kill, kill”.. you cannot understand the Quran unless they do, and by extension how muslims think.

12 posted on 03/27/2014 12:57:53 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Didn’t Jefferson warn us about Islam with a warning on a koran purchased with tax dollars?

Something about it being obscene?


13 posted on 03/27/2014 1:13:58 PM PDT by TheArizona
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It’s a religion of peace./s


14 posted on 03/27/2014 1:33:46 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: VerySadAmerican

A moderate Muslim is one who uses a remote detonator.


15 posted on 03/27/2014 1:45:30 PM PDT by Corey Ohlis (Visualize Swirled Peas)
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Muslim Brotherhood Supporters Slaughter Christian Woman

Posted By Raymond Ibrahim On April 3, 2014 In Daily Mailer,FrontPage

On Friday, March 28, in Ain Shams, a suburb of Cairo, Muslim Brotherhood supporters attacked the Virgin Mary and Archangel Michael Coptic Orthodox Church, including by opening fire on it and setting parked cars aflame. Four people died.

One of the slain, a young Coptic woman, was savagely mauled and molested before being murdered—simply because her cross identified her as a Christian to the Brotherhood rioters.
According to an eyewitness who discussed the entire event on the Egyptian program, 90 Minutes, Mary Sameh George was parking by the church to deliver medicine to a sickly, elderly woman:

Once they saw that she was a Christian [because of the cross hanging on her rear view mirror], they jumped on top of the car, to the point that the vehicle was no longer visible. The roof of the car collapsed in. When they realized that she was starting to die, they pulled her out of the car and started pounding on her and pulling her hair—to the point that portions of her hair and scalp came off. They kept beating her, kicking her, stabbing her with any object or weapon they could find…. Throughout [her ordeal] she tried to protect her face, giving her back to the attackers, till one of them came and stabbed her right in the back, near the heart, finishing her off. Then another came and grabbed her by the hair, shaking her head, and with the other hand slit her throat. Another pulled her pants off, to the point that she was totally naked.

The eyewitness, as well as many others who have since appeared on videos, complained about Egyptian State Security and how it did not intervene—just like under Morsi, when St. Mark Cathedral was besieged, even as security stood by—how it knows exactly who the murderers are, and how one of Mary’s murderers, whom “everyone reported to Security,” was simply relaxing in his home, not even hiding.

Added the eyewitness: “Let me tell you, here in Ain Shams, we [Christians] know that every Friday is a day of death; that the day after Friday, Saturday, we’ll be carried to the morgue!”

The rest of history ...

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/raymond-ibrahim/muslim-brotherhood-supporters-slaughter-christian-woman/print/


16 posted on 04/03/2014 9:52:36 AM PDT by Dqban22
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