Even talking with a passenger takes some concentration, as I can vouch. No driver I knew who entered a hairy traffic situation wanted to keep talking until he or she was back out of it. However “phone manners” militate against this. It’s not like we commonly hear “Excuse me George, the traffic is getting hairy. Let’s talk later.”
I’m sorry, but if you can’t talk/listen and drive then you can’t drive.
I can drive anything, anywhere at anytime.
I can parallel park a full sized SUV with a foot of total space in less than four moves.
Driving is about awareness. It’s physical. Talking/listening is not physical and why some people can’t do both at the same time is beyond my understanding.
You’re exactly right. I can affirm this from personal experience.