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The Secret Service has a drinking problem
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Posted on 03/27/2014 10:36:46 PM PDT by chessplayer

One of the many pearls of wisdom that alcoholism recovery programs impart can be applied to the guys who caused the U.S. Secret Service's latest imbroglio. It's not that every time an agent drinks on the road, he has a problem. It's that, whenever there's an incident, it's usually because he's been drinking.

The Secret Service has a drinking problem. It's much worse than any other cultural deficit the elite agency has. It's more widespread than sexism, certainly, and the other isms that have been attached to the agency since the prostitution scandal in Cartagena, Colombia. It's something that every journalist who covers the White House kind of knows, intuitively, if they've ever traveled with the president. Pick your favorite White House correspondent and ask him or her whether agents on President George W. Bush's detail created problems at the Wild West saloon in Waco. One former White House scribe told me that although reporters regularly witnessed agents drinking heavily BEFORE shifts, "we just assumed they could control themselves. After all, they were the ones who were the most responsible of all of us."

But often, agents drinking with each other don't have the foresight, or the ability, frankly, to tell their colleagues to stop drinking without losing face. In the Netherlands, not only was a member of the Counter-Assault Team drunk, he was falling-down drunk. He was sleeping on the floor of a hallway drunk. And several of his team members were drunk, too.

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Bombed before they even go on duty. No way in hell they would be capable of protecting anyone.
1 posted on 03/27/2014 10:36:46 PM PDT by chessplayer
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They drank like fish back when I worked with them in 1988-89.


2 posted on 03/27/2014 10:41:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: chessplayer

3 posted on 03/27/2014 10:42:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Why do they do this?


4 posted on 03/27/2014 10:44:05 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (waiting for my Magic 8 ball to give me an answer)
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To: chessplayer
This goes back to the 1800s.

Supposedly Lincoln's bodyguard was not at his post during the assassination. He was at a saloon.

And this was prior to the Secret Service even being created.

Really pathetic that these guys have such a responsibility and choose to act like frat boys.

I've heard the term, "once the wheels go up, the rings come off".

Referring to Air Force One.

I've read that Howard Hughes hired Mormons to be his bodyguards because they didn't drink, and would be clear-headed at all times.

5 posted on 03/27/2014 10:44:59 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: chessplayer

They also seem to have a problem with following rules and not acting stupidly.


6 posted on 03/27/2014 10:45:08 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: chessplayer

No surprise. The good ones moved on or moved out, leaving Obama with the dregs and goons.


7 posted on 03/27/2014 10:45:09 PM PDT by Octar
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You would be drunk out of your skull too if you had to protect BHO 24/7.


8 posted on 03/27/2014 10:46:53 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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Mostly because they have no life and have been divorced more than once already. I sure wouldn’t do that job.


9 posted on 03/27/2014 10:47:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: chessplayer

Okay, so let me ask you fellow FReepers.

If you had to guard this ass-hat, wouldn’t you be drunk?

Of course I jest about it. This isn’t right. I just find it rather humorous that with all the lowered standards Obama thinks are great, this lowered standard seem to bother the media.

All the lowered standards should bother people.


10 posted on 03/27/2014 10:48:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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“Howard Hughes hired Mormons to be his bodyguards because they didn’t drink, and would be clear-headed at all times.”

This is something that makes me understand why Howard Hughes ended up as wealthy as he did. He had the sense to take cultural considerations into hiring who he wanted. He knew the Mormon laws and used it to his advantage.

Would that we would do the same.


11 posted on 03/27/2014 10:48:57 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: boop

Not just bodyguards. Nurses, valets, cooks, butlers, maids, whatever. He only hired LDS for his personal staff.


12 posted on 03/27/2014 10:49:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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Mostly because they have no life and have been divorced more than once already. I sure wouldn’t do that job.


I sure wouldn’t want to have to depend on them to protect me.


13 posted on 03/27/2014 10:51:22 PM PDT by chessplayer
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I would need a drink too, maybe a lot of drinks if I knew my job was to instantly sacrafice my life, say adios to my wife and kids for what? For this here President? Hmmm . The secret service man is not provided the indulgence or the luxury of cherry picking which professional vows to honor.


14 posted on 03/27/2014 10:51:45 PM PDT by lee martell
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I don't know if you ever saw the movie Melvin and Howard (1980).

Charles Napier comes into Melvin Dumar's gas station and buys a pack of cigarettes, and leaves a copy of Howard Hughes' will.

As Napier leaves, you see he's thrown the cigarettes out the window of his car.

I never "got" that scene until I found out about Hughes and Mormons.

No drinking, and no smoking.

Wonder how many 1980 audience members picked up on that detail.

I sure didn't.

15 posted on 03/27/2014 10:56:24 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In a way its kinda sad. But, on the other hand, these are men with responsibility...so I say grow up and man up.


16 posted on 03/27/2014 11:03:25 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (waiting for my Magic 8 ball to give me an answer)
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I guess if I had to protect the 2 lowlifes in the White House, I’d be drunk all the time too


17 posted on 03/27/2014 11:05:00 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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“No surprise. The good ones moved on or moved out, leaving Obama with the dregs and goons.”

I believe we have a winner.


18 posted on 03/27/2014 11:13:52 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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If you had to protect someone who hates our country, treats our military like it's got a deadly disease, claims our country is not a Christian nation, leaves an ambassador and three brave men to die, doesn't follow and is attempting to destroy the Constitution, is in the process of destroying the best medical system in the world, gives his raghead brothers military equipment, turns his back on Israel and other countries, I think I would drink heavily to keep sane.
19 posted on 03/27/2014 11:14:59 PM PDT by Nitehawk0325 (Liberal democrats have the ability to screw us over a number of times for the same thing.)
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20 posted on 03/27/2014 11:19:58 PM PDT by GraceG
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