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Navy says goodbye to arson-damaged nuclear submarine at formal decommissioning ceremony
Fox News/AP ^ | March 28, 2014

Posted on 03/28/2014 11:20:00 AM PDT by kingattax

Edited on 03/28/2014 11:21:02 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

KITTERY, MAINE

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 201205; arson; fifthcolumn; nationalsecurity; nuclearsub; sabotage; saboteur; ussmiami
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1 posted on 03/28/2014 11:20:00 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

I thought it was an accident.


2 posted on 03/28/2014 11:20:49 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: kingattax

Who knows whether this was a rational decision, balancing the cost of repair against a new sub, or just one more Obama move to disarm the US.

I hadn’t heard that the fire was set, either.

Terrorism? Or mental problems? I suppose we’re unlikely to find out.


3 posted on 03/28/2014 11:23:46 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: kingattax

And the fire was deliberately set by an idiot who wanted to go home early...


4 posted on 03/28/2014 11:24:05 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: kingattax
fire set by a shipyard worker...

who is now doing serious time in federal prison.
5 posted on 03/28/2014 11:24:12 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

Rated firing squad or keelhauling.


6 posted on 03/28/2014 11:25:24 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Steely Tom

I don’t recall the exact details, but in essence a civilian worker wanted to take some time off, so he set a fire. It destroyed the sub.

I noticed in recent years that there is less and less quality control on workers employed on government projects. At my last company they were actively working on allowing convicted felons to work in the plant, to give them another chance. That attitude is pervading the defense industry and it’s driven directly by the government.


7 posted on 03/28/2014 11:26:15 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: kingattax

a real statement would have been a refit.


8 posted on 03/28/2014 11:26:53 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: kingattax

Why is the arsonist still breathing? TRAITOR!


9 posted on 03/28/2014 11:29:13 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: wally_bert

I wonder what the replacement cost is.

Too bad, even “donating” every usable organ from the idiot wouldn’t even put a dent in it.


10 posted on 03/28/2014 11:31:21 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Freeport; wally_bert

If he does more than 5 years, I’ll eat my hat.


11 posted on 03/28/2014 11:34:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Last I heard the cost of repairing the damage was half of what a complete new sub would have cost.

I think its the right thing, scrap it and start all over, a sub needs steel that has a known strength, fire damages steel, especially HY90 or stronger.

And I agree they should hang the guy or have him executed by a firing squad. A half a billion dollars of OUR money wasted by a guy that just wanted to get off work early, thats despicable in its lowest form.


12 posted on 03/28/2014 11:35:16 AM PDT by Spartan302
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To: Steely Tom
Really? It was in all the papers (and on FR)

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/26/worker-set-fire-to-submarine-so-he-could-leave-early/

13 posted on 03/28/2014 11:35:18 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Shipyard worker sentenced to 17 years for $400 million submarine fire (CNN)
14 posted on 03/28/2014 11:37:19 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Gen.Blather

“I don’t recall the exact details, but in essence a civilian worker wanted to take some time off...”

Looks as if he was quite successful in his quest for taking some time off.


15 posted on 03/28/2014 11:42:37 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Gen.Blather

I have no problem with giving ex-felons a second chance. They serve their time as a way of paying for their crime. Once the sentence is served, should they continue to pay for the rest of their lives?

Granted, if they screw up the second chance, I don’t know that they’d deserve much mercy the third time around.


16 posted on 03/28/2014 11:44:19 AM PDT by IronJack
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Oh yeah. When I read the word "arson," I immediately thought "sabotage by a foreign agent."

I forgot that it actually was arson, but not (strictly speaking) sabotage.

17 posted on 03/28/2014 11:48:00 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: kingattax

Check for soetoro. Pass out candy.


18 posted on 03/28/2014 11:48:33 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: kingattax

I cannot remember where that worker was transferred to...was it the West Wing, or was it the IRS?

Or perhaps if he’s really crooked, was it the NSA?


19 posted on 03/28/2014 11:54:42 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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“I have no problem with giving ex-felons a second chance.”

I’ve worked with several. In general, they’re charming and you can’t, on meeting them, imagine why they got in trouble. Some have serious drug problems. They’ll promise they’ll be in on Saturday and not show. They’ll have wonderful excuses, but they were hung over or still stoned. Others have poor decision making capability and they act impulsively to the detriment of everybody. Some become irrationally violent.

So, if you had a plant stuffed full of expensive, delicate material or equipment and processes you needed to keep confidential who would you like to hire, somebody who has never gotten themselves convicted of a felony or a former felon? Of the several former felons I’ve known and the ones I’ve known of, I’d never hire them again. But I’m certain some people do get better. The question is, do you want to hire them and take that risk? And, if they do hurt somebody on the job, say, by braking their jaw, what defense will you use when you get sued?


20 posted on 03/28/2014 11:56:38 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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