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Stopping Putin: The Military Option
Newsweek ^ | March 28, 2014 | By Max Strasser

Posted on 03/28/2014 1:12:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: M Kehoe
Oh, btw when is the next new moon?

5.56mm

41 posted on 03/28/2014 3:42:48 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: staytrue

We can still do some damage with our ground forces. We have been fighting against irregulars the last few years. Our tanks may be older but still pack a punch. It’s just a matter of getting everything re-directed which would take forever.

I’m sure Putin and his boys are smart enough not to let us build up our forces anywhere close to him.


42 posted on 03/28/2014 4:51:04 PM PDT by USAF80
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To: familyop
I just can't see us getting involved for Ukraine, or frankly, the Baltics. Poland? Germany? If it got that far, it's the end of the world as we know it. Countries 75% of Americans cant find on a map? We could land ground troops, but we cant keep them there. Our M.O. for the last 20 year has been airstrikes, because they are safe. How many Russians get killed by bomb from F/A-18s before we lose a carrier with 4,000 souls on board? Russia isnt our technological equal, but they can bloody us worse than anyone else, and I'm not sure we've got it.
43 posted on 03/28/2014 7:08:17 PM PDT by NYFriend
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To: sean327
Someone who isn’t an arm chair general and has some military experience please explain to this old Marine what the hell the US can do militarily in this situation.

I'd love to hear that myself. Apparently the author thinks "military option" involves marching a nonexistent NATO force under a Russian land-based air umbrella, magically supplying it from somewhere, all to achieve an unstated objective with a never-ending deadline. What could possibly go wrong?

44 posted on 03/28/2014 7:37:12 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Jim Robinson

Is Max Strasser going to gear up and face thr Ruskies?


45 posted on 03/28/2014 7:39:05 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: henkster
That analogy is absolutely perfect.
46 posted on 03/28/2014 7:40:33 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3130506/posts

Send in the Gay Brigades. They will cause a Pussy Riot and complete out PUTIN. I mean oust.


47 posted on 03/28/2014 8:29:48 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Jim Robinson

ACORN WILL STOP EM


48 posted on 03/28/2014 8:38:14 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bammy doesn’t really care.


49 posted on 03/28/2014 9:33:49 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Bryanw92

nothing is stopping you from enlisting - and sending your kids to enlist - if you think it’s important that we go to war over Ukraine.


50 posted on 03/28/2014 9:43:53 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

>>nothing is stopping you from enlisting - and sending your kids to enlist - if you think it’s important that we go to war over Ukraine.

I didn’t say that. I said that America is a weak shell of what it once was and we can’t be the world police anymore. A lot of people wanted that for a variety of reasons and now they shouldn’t complain.

My feelings on the Ukraine thing is that Ukraine was part of Russia up until the last century. Most of the citizens are ethnic Russians. Let Russia have it. It’s not our business.


51 posted on 03/29/2014 5:39:02 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Jim Robinson

“But military strategists reject those options as profoundly unlikely.

No matter what Russia does in Ukraine – even in the case of a full-scale invasion – there is little chance NATO, or the U.S. acting independent of the alliance, will engage in a shooting war with Russian troops.”

A major engagement like this would give the Kenyan Usurper even more power. (Think Franklin Dictator Roosevelt or Woodrow Wilson.)

Never let a good crisis go to waste....


52 posted on 03/29/2014 9:24:37 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:55......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Bryanw92

now they shouldn’t complain.

Who’s complaining? Only people who want us to get involved militarily in a dispute that is of no consequence to us. I can criticize Obama for destroying freedom at home, but I won’t criticize him for being “weak” abroad - if “weakness” means he’s not being stupid by flexing military muscle against the Russians over Crimea. That’s not “weakness,” it’s common sense.


53 posted on 03/29/2014 10:22:30 AM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: Paladin2

Bammy doesn’t really care.

Neither do I. Why do you care whether the Russians are in or out of Ukraine? What difference does it make to your life?


54 posted on 03/29/2014 10:23:54 AM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: MrEdd

Who would be stupid enough to join a coalition with us as part of it, even to stop the Russians?

Why is it any of our business whether the Russians are in or out of the Ukraine? At least why would this be something to form a “coalition” over, and face them down with tanks and troops - even if we could? We’d have to borrow money from the Chinese to do it. Don’t we have a big enough defitic as it is, and enough problems at home, so we don’t need to invent “crises” abroad?


55 posted on 03/29/2014 10:26:50 AM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: Responsibility2nd

“A Ukraine-Russia fight would be a rout”

Which would then turn into a war of attrition which Putey cannot afford to fund. Plus he would get to see his gas pipeline blown up on a daily basis.


56 posted on 03/29/2014 10:38:07 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: WilliamIII

>>Who’s complaining? Only people who want us to get involved militarily in a dispute that is of no consequence to us. I can criticize Obama for destroying freedom at home, but I won’t criticize him for being “weak” abroad - if “weakness” means he’s not being stupid by flexing military muscle against the Russians over Crimea. That’s not “weakness,” it’s common sense.

A strong nation doesn’t have to start lobbing missiles at another country every time they disagree. That’s what insecure bullies do. A strong nation has a strong economy, moral people, is an exporter of food and other necessities, and is a role-model to the world—not a cop. Obama didn’t create all of our weaknesses. Its been an ongoing process for 30 years.

The leftist media is wringing their hands non-stop, whining, “what will we do about Putin?” Well, they wanted us weak—not just militarily but in every possible way imaginable. So now we lack the strength (and, I cannot stress this enough, there are more ways to be strong that militarily) to persuade Putin or anyone else to play nice.

The kind of thinking that “if we don’t want to fight them, we must submit” is the kind of moral weakness I’m talking about. A strong nation NEVER has to fight unless it chooses to expand.


57 posted on 03/29/2014 12:31:36 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Jim Robinson

Let Europe handle Russia this time. It’s their turn.


58 posted on 03/29/2014 12:34:47 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: sean327
Someone who isn’t an arm chair general and has some military experience please explain to this old Marine what the hell the US can do militarily in this situation. Because for the life of me I see no military option here. We are coming out of 13 years of constant combat operations. Our troops are tired, our equipment is beat up with zero prospect of replacement anytime soon. Ask yourself this; Is this fight worth the death of just one more soldier, sailor, airman or Marine? I don’t think it is.

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I could not agree more. It sickens me.

59 posted on 03/29/2014 12:41:56 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: sean327

This old Marine agrees. Certainly NOT under the present CIC.
It`s time for the Ukrainian boys and girls to step up to resolve this one . If they have the will to fight an all out balls to the wall war, with their own rules of engagement ...turn em loose. Anyone who would like to suit up and go assist them...have at it.


60 posted on 03/29/2014 1:20:07 PM PDT by Einherjar
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