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30,000 Alaskans sign petition to ditch US, rejoin Russia
Hotair ^ | 03/29/2014 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 03/29/2014 1:46:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Unrest in the nation must be running high if people are looking for ways to pull up stakes and leave the union entirely. Some Texans petitioned the White House to break away in 2012, though not much came of the effort. Possibly my favorite breakaway story was that of the Conch Republic, which seceded from the US in 1982, immediately suing the government for $1B in war damages.

Despite the lack of success on the part of these previous efforts, they all had one thing in common. They weren’t looking to join up with any other nations, but rather to strike out on their own as a new, independent state. But not so the latest effort, reported by our colleagues at Town Hall, where a petition has been submitted to the White House to allow Alaska to secede from the United States and join up with Russia.

Some Alaskans apparently are not opposed to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s recent annexation of Crimea—in fact, they are hoping to be grabbed up next.

More than 30,000 Alaskans have signed the petition “Alaska back to Russia,” pleading that the White House allow them to secede and join their native land. If the request garners 100,000 signatures by April 20, the White House will make an official response.

I’m not entirely sure how to gauge the heat index for this idea among Alaskans. 30,000 signatures in New York City wouldn’t cover two city blocks, but in Alaska (population less than 3/4 million for the entire state) it starts to sound like an at least marginally beefy number. But are those folks all actually from Alaska? I only ask because I’m not sure how they screen the IP addresses for these things. In any event, perhaps they’d have drawn a bit more support if the originator had employed something that sounded a bit more like… English?

Groups Siberian russians crossed the Isthmus (now the Bering Strait) 16-10 thousand years ago.

Russian began to settle on the Arctic coast, Aleuts inhabited the Aleutian Archipelago.

First visited Alaska August 21, 1732, members of the team boat “St. Gabriel »under the surveyor Gvozdev and assistant navigator I. Fedorov during the expedition Shestakov and DI Pavlutski 1729-1735 years

Vote for secession of Alaska from the United States and joining Russia

On a second read, perhaps it was written by somebody who is a native Russian speaker with English as a second language. Either way, it’s a bit of a puzzler.

I can’t imagine why the rank and file Alaskan would have any interest in changing their status. Dropping out to join another country really only suggests two options. One, as the author offers, leaves you stuck with Vladimir Putin. The other? Canada… and the less said about that the better. The mainland US certainly has no incentive to lose Alaska either. It’s a strategically important location for a variety of reasons, not to mention being a key element in our energy infrastructure. Alaska is a treasure trove of natural wonders and a great tourist destination. On the other side of the balance sheet there is virtually nothing to argue in favor of losing them.

If this petition is coming from nothing more than a general dissatisfaction with either Barack Obama in particular or Washington in general, it’s a drastic overreaction. Obama will be gone soon enough, and if you don’t like the way things are going in DC, elect better people. But stick with the USA, Alaskans. While imperfect, it’s still the best (and pretty much only) game in town.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: agitprop; alaska; antiwardotcom; crimea; putinsbuttboys; randsconcerntrolls; russia
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1 posted on 03/29/2014 1:46:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Would Putin drill in ANWR?


2 posted on 03/29/2014 1:49:31 PM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Idiots.


3 posted on 03/29/2014 1:50:06 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: coon2000
Would Putin drill in ANWR?

You're darn Putin.

4 posted on 03/29/2014 1:50:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kathy in Alaska

Well,...I’m certain that these weren’t “Palin Supporters”.


5 posted on 03/29/2014 1:50:41 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SeekAndFind

They take Alaska back and I’m suing them for 15 thousand years of racist oppression. Reparations, baby.


6 posted on 03/29/2014 1:53:43 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind

Did they know what they were signing?
Did they get something in return for signing?
Was it promoted by the wh somehow?
Do they even live in Alaska?


7 posted on 03/29/2014 1:56:55 PM PDT by revolted
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama will be gone soon enough, and if you don’t like the way things are going in DC, elect better people.

This from the State that elected Lisa Murkowski as a write-in.

8 posted on 03/29/2014 1:57:07 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: revolted

They can take their Republicans with them and keep them.


9 posted on 03/29/2014 1:58:52 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: revolted

Oh I just assume most thought it was funny. It certainly is neither serious nor to be taken seriously.


10 posted on 03/29/2014 1:59:31 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: SeekAndFind

I think he have problem with Palin family


11 posted on 03/29/2014 1:59:31 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: SeekAndFind

No. Don’t like things? Get off your dead asses and move.


12 posted on 03/29/2014 2:04:28 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
That's no surprise. It's in style for all stripes of debt/revenue-sucking, political/regulator folks.

The Secret American Subculture Of Putin-Worshippers
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3070183/posts

Vladimir Putin's comments on American exceptionalism, Syria cause a fuss
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3065888/posts

Pat Buchanan: People worldwide ‘are sick of hearing’ talk of American exceptionalism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3067234/posts

Pat Buchanan Defends Hitler's Invasion of Poland
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2019486/posts


13 posted on 03/29/2014 2:05:02 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

There’s a word I would have added in front of ‘idiots’, but otherwise, ITA.

Actually, if Alaska wants to go back to Russia, it would save the US taxpayers money. Alaska takes more in Federal funds per person than most any other state.

“Some states, including Alaska and Virginia, received more than $15,000 per person from the federal government, even after subtracting the billions the state spent on income tax. This figure is nearly two-and-a-half times the amount received per person after taxes in states like Nevada, one of the poorest states in the country.”


14 posted on 03/29/2014 2:07:01 PM PDT by conservaKate (R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
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To: RIghtwardHo
Oh I just assume most thought it was funny. It certainly is neither serious nor to be taken seriously.

That's what the citizens of Minnesota were thinking when they elected Jesse Ventura and Al Franken to powerful positions.

15 posted on 03/29/2014 2:07:38 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Uh, yeah right.

We are all over it....


16 posted on 03/29/2014 2:08:06 PM PDT by gettinolder
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To: RIghtwardHo
You aren't supposed to take this literally. They're making a point. The federal government isn't exactly popular in Alaska — because it's the major land owner, and it interferes a lot in local affairs. (At least that's the impression I got from visits while living near Alaska for decades.)
17 posted on 03/29/2014 2:08:36 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: SeekAndFind

You don’t HAVE to reside in Alaska to sign the petition. Anyone can sign. I wish California would think about it. I’d sign just to get rid of them.


18 posted on 03/29/2014 2:08:52 PM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

You don’t HAVE to reside in Alaska to sign the petition. Anyone can sign. I wish California would think about it. I’d sign just to get rid of them.


19 posted on 03/29/2014 2:11:19 PM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: lucky american

Exactly. I’ll bet half of those signing are Russian teenagers in their parent’s basements... OR KGB agents working in Putin’s basements.


20 posted on 03/29/2014 2:13:53 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: coon2000
30,000 Alaskans sign petition to ditch US, rejoin Russia

Hey, I read it on the internet, so it must be true!

21 posted on 03/29/2014 2:16:01 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: SeekAndFind

They’d do better if they’d just make themselves their own country by seceding.
If Washington says, “You can’t do that,” Alaskans can say, “Come try and stop us.”


22 posted on 03/29/2014 2:21:39 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: SeekAndFind

Public screwools have spiked any information about Russia and socialism..
Many have no idea what a political latrine Russia is and (always has been).. as well as China...

They only a russian or chinese have to experience freedom is to leave those country’s..


23 posted on 03/29/2014 2:25:56 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: familyop; conservaKate

Although America is far better a place to live than Russia, I think Obama and Putin are basically the same person.


24 posted on 03/29/2014 2:26:53 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Steely Tom

There is one major problem with your comment. You said the people of Minnesota were thinking; the problem is they don’t give thought to anything they do and neither do the people of New York.


25 posted on 03/29/2014 2:27:08 PM PDT by wvnavyvet
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To: coon2000
Would Putin drill in ANWR?

Believe it....

26 posted on 03/29/2014 2:28:23 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Fido969
All joking aside, I had a neighbor when we lived in the MatSu, homesteaded his place in 1942. I once asked him if he ever thought Alaska would become it's own commonwealth or country. He said no way, Alaskans are becoming more like Americans everyday; and I have to agree with him. We don't have all your taxes and have way more freedom than you all down there can even fathom; but always will be tied socially, economically, and politically to the USA.

Lots of Russkies here already, but they left Russia for a reason and none want to go back. They'll say that some things are better there like healthcare and everybody gets a govt sponsored 2 week vacation on a cabin on the blk sea, but economics is light years ahead here. I have one Russian buddy, his wife is a lefty, but my buddy is conservative and they like life in Alaska. Got their citizenship and bought their first house last year, achieving the American DReam he told me. H does think Russian Hockey is still better than USA. Russkies in Alaska are just like all other Americans, and their kids speak English like our kids do, without a Russian Accent.

27 posted on 03/29/2014 2:30:27 PM PDT by Eska
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To: dfwgator

“You’re darn Putin.

lol. Nice. And, yes, he would.


28 posted on 03/29/2014 2:30:40 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the federal tyranny cannot be reversed, these independence, separatist & secessionist movements are really all that’s left.
Even if this petition is a joke, I doubt ten years ago that anyone in Alaska would have considered signing such a petition as a joke.


29 posted on 03/29/2014 2:34:51 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: SevenofNine

If it did happen, then Sarah Palin WOULD be able to see Russia from her house, unless, of course, she’s living in Arizona.


30 posted on 03/29/2014 2:36:56 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

If Obama is President much longer, we’ll ALL see Russia from our house.


31 posted on 03/29/2014 2:38:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: All

Wouldn’t take this all that seriously, pretty sure its an internet joke from 4chan.


32 posted on 03/29/2014 2:39:44 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: SeekAndFind

I say we start a website and raise enough money to send these assholes to Russia if they are so inclined.

One month in that communist hell hole and they would be begging for their citizenship back.


33 posted on 03/29/2014 2:43:12 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: dfwgator

If Obama is President much longer, we’ll ALL see ______ (fill in the blank with ANY third world country) from our house.


34 posted on 03/29/2014 2:46:07 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: lucky american

“You don’t HAVE to reside in Alaska to sign the petition. Anyone can sign. I wish California would think about it. I’d sign just to get rid of them.”

But then you’d not have FR on which to bitch about a state that you know little or noting about! And just think, you’d never have had Ronald Reagan for president either. You are probably upset because when we fly back and forth across the country, we use the restroom on the plane when it’s overhead just hoping that the plane doesn’t have a holding tank.


35 posted on 03/29/2014 2:47:46 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: SeekAndFind

Its a running joke in Russian forums for the past month. Crimea is pronounced “Cream” in Russian, so they call Alaska “Ice-Cream” as in it is next to be liberated.


36 posted on 03/29/2014 2:48:44 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not gonna happen...

Alaska will be GIVEN to China for debt forgiveness...


37 posted on 03/29/2014 2:50:12 PM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: SeekAndFind

A hole 30,000. Wow what a huge group./s/ Lets round these idiots up an give them free transportation to Russia. See if they like Russia life. And prohibit them from returning.


38 posted on 03/29/2014 2:54:27 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Le Chien Rouge

“Alaska will be GIVEN to China for debt forgiveness...”

China owes us dramatically more than we’ve ever borrowed from them. Start charging them for stolen designs, patents that weren’t respected, etc. etc. Further, take away Western markets to buy what they’re making with cheap labor in a top down totalitarian governed economy, and charge them for their cheating when it comes to fair trade and open markets, and they owe us a ton.


39 posted on 03/29/2014 2:57:34 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: SeekAndFind

And I suppose there are 30,000 fools in Alaska just like every other state in the Union.


40 posted on 03/29/2014 3:00:41 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hey You Alaskan 30Kr's And Russia ~ A Deal Is A Deal!

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41 posted on 03/29/2014 3:02:54 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No, 30k Alaskans didn’t sign it. Anyone can sign it. Most people I know would tell Putin to pound sand! We love our freedom up here!


42 posted on 03/29/2014 3:09:07 PM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Alaska decided to secede from the union, what would our weak, pathetic president do in response? Order missile strikes on Anchorage? Send in our weak, pathetic underfunded army featuring women in combat, homosexuals, and heterosexuals worried about being grabbed in the shower by their homosexual superior officers and maybe by K-Nine Corps dogs whose rights are protected by PETA?

Just as the next three Obama presidential years will be a golden opportunity for Vladimir Putin to take over much of the world with impunity, it will also be an ideal period for secessionist movements in the U.S. to reach their goals.


43 posted on 03/29/2014 3:23:20 PM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: xzins

I see that our nation has been sent into moral and economic decline for 40 years by the most influential and corrupt constituents in both political parties. There have been no real recoveries since. During that process of decline, many who are not long descended from Europe have crept into leadership positions in business, politics and academia.

They never really assimilated. Those of us who see the bottom side of the institutions are those who see more of the ugliness.

Do I recall correctly in that you were a chaplain? I was a combat engineer (light type) in the Guard and am now trying to enjoy peace, quiet, study and small home building, heating and gardening projects. Back to what I was writing in the first paragraph above...

According to the Prophets (not “New Testament”), that will all change during a climax of the corruption (ill gotten gains, gossip, false accusations, officious robberies against common people, may their houses rot...). You see, I’ve gone where the earliest American Protestants nearly went.

There will be no place to keep money or any other kind of wealth at some point in time. That might not be far ahead of a time, where the nations’ armies are brought down shortly after overrunning Jerusalem—especially those nations having more people of descent from certain early tribes.

What most people publicly discussing that event are mistaking, is as to how those armies are brought down and how the malady spreads to the nations—all of ‘em. Many say that nukes are described (the error). Then, the fighting between the ill elite folks in the nations (true).

Study and prayer are good. Have fun, if you like those and low technical pursuits. Let’s be good and enjoy the slide.


44 posted on 03/29/2014 3:24:46 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Bluestocking
The federal govt owns most of the land in Alaska. Followed by the state. Then the tribes. Then the U of Alaska.

There is not a lot of land there privately owned, but they can sell their land to whoever they want to, including Russia.

45 posted on 03/29/2014 3:29:58 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: SeekAndFind

When will Massachusetts secede and join the new Soviet Union. Oh, they already are part of it?


46 posted on 03/29/2014 3:35:15 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: Logical me

“A hole”?


47 posted on 03/29/2014 3:50:19 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

If Putin can protect our borders better than Obama and thugs I’m willing to give it a try...


48 posted on 03/29/2014 3:51:48 PM PDT by GOPJ (Save Your Country , Fire A Democrat - freeper molso209)
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49 posted on 03/29/2014 3:53:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Ben Ficklin

http://www.akrdc.org/newsletters/2009/whoownsalaska.pdf


50 posted on 03/29/2014 3:59:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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