Posted on 03/31/2014 8:24:21 AM PDT by thetallguy24
The bulk of the entire US fleet was outdated. The BBs based at Pearl included the “Big Five” (Tennessee and Colorado Classes, altho Colorado was on the West Coast for overhaul on 12/7/41) whichbwere the best US BBs then in service (the North Carolinas were in limited service on the East Coast as design flaws were corrected). On the East Coast were also the three New Mexicos (predecessors to the Tennessees) and the three ancient “coal burners” (Arkansas and the two New Yorks, which bore the “coal burner” moniker tho having been converted to oil years earlier)
Of the carriers, the big and fast Lexingtons were based at Pearl (Saratoga, like Colorado, being on the West Coast for overhaul) as was Enterprise. The unsuitable Ranger and barely suitable Wasp were there as well, along with Yorktown.
While basing the fleet at Pearl was definitely a provocation and possibly designed as bait, the flaw in US mentality leading into the attack was a complete underestimation of what the Japanese were capable of. Put simply the US didn’t expect that the Japanese fleet would attempt to attack from the North following a winter crossing (footage can be found of the Kido Butai carriers bouncing around like toy boats in a tub during their run in) Or that the US wouldn’t have enough warning to mount a proper defense. Or that the Japanese could overcome a host of tactical disadvantages (like using aerial torpedoes in the shallow water of Pearl.)
“ANYONE remember the flying tigers”
Yes, I remember the Flying Tigers and also December 7,1941!
To a degree he is correct. Roosevelt wanted in the war very very badly.
I have a lot of respect for your opinions. I would have no problem voting for him over RINOS like Jeb and Christie. My major issues are illegal aliens, obamacare and our military. I know that Rand Paul would repeal obamacare. Not sure where he stands on the other two....
My plea is urging those of us on the Right to keep our eye on the ball. Nobody is going to be everything anyone or everyone wants. But we can unite around a common cause and best candidate if we’re clear on the CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER: the $4 trillion dollar government which threatens to our way of life and freedoms.
Thanks thetallguy24.
Rand Paul is just clueless on immigration. Which is a bit better than people who know better like Goodlatte or Coffman or Rubio or Jeb or Christie or Walker or Ryan. These people know more about the issue and decide to side with the Chamber. Rubio and Christie have seen first hand the cost and violence of illegals.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/nyregion/30newark.html?_r=0
On immigration the immediate is congress voting against a permanent amnesty between now and 2017. I don’t think Rand Paul’s goofy policy on immigration will really convince people to vote for amnesty.
It would be funny if the establishment somehow blocked amnesty because they thought they could bash Rand Paul on the issue in the primaries.
The only possible candidates who really are against amnesty are Pat McCrory and Allen West.
A lot of people like Scott Walker but he is as stupid as Rand on immigration. He says he thinks anyone should be able to legally immigrate. What’s the limit? 2,3 or 4 million per year.
It is funny because in 2010 and 2011 he did some good things on immigration the Dems will use against him.
“And before he was elected in 2011, Paul called the federal DREAM Act, which would have permanently stopped deportations for undocumented youths brought to the country as children, the “Washington elitists’ roundabout way of giving amnesty to illegal immigrant students and undermining the rule of law.” In 2010, Paul supported Arizona’s harsh anti-immigration law, advocating for local law enforcement officials to check for legal status, one way that could land undocumented immigrants in the hands of federal immigration officials. In 2011, Paul co-sponsored legislation with Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) that would end the constitutional right to birthright citizenship.”
The blockade in regard to oil and scrape metal may have impacted the timing, but not the adversary. In the 1920’s the factions formed for determinations to “strike north” meaning attack the Soviet Union or “strike south” meaning attack the colonial possessions of the French, Dutch and British. Either pattern of conquest would give them access to the resources they wanted. However, by the mid 1930’s the issue had been resolved in favor of the “strike south” faction that Hirohito supported. You can read a good discussion of the subject in Japan’s Imperial Conspiracy by David Bergamini and Hirohito by Edward Behr.
This imperial militarist society never contemplated the possibility they could achieve prosperity by peaceful commercial means as Japan if fact did during the 1970’s.
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