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Jeb Bush vs Hillary Clinton, 2016? God help us all.
The London Spectator ^ | March 31, 2014 | Alex Massie

Posted on 04/01/2014 10:49:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Connoisseurs of hinge-moments – those instants at which a country’s future changes – have long-appreciated the 1994 Florida gubernatorial election. Jeb Bush lost. Meanwhile, across the country, his elder brother George was elected governor of Texas. George Junior complained – whined, perhaps – that Barbara and George Senior grieved Jeb’s loss more than they celebrated George’s victory.

Until that moment, however, Jeb had been thought the Bush boy more likely to succeed on the national stage. Over the course of a single night in 1994, however, the wheel turned back to George. We know what happened next.

Twenty years later there are people still determined to give Jeb a chance. According to the Washington Post “influential Republicans” are working to drag and draft Jeb into the race for the GOP’s 2016 presidential nomination.

Well, why not? Nothing could better honour the American Dream than a contest pitting Jeb Bush against Hillary Clinton. True, old cynics and salty curmudgeons might chunter about the Republic’s lost virtue or something but, hell, cable news would love it and if that’s not all that counts it still counts for quite a lot. A soap opera to make you puke but one you can’t help but watch. What’s not to like?

“Influential Republicans” means, of course, immensely wealthy Republicans. Many of Mitt Romney’s fundraisers are said to be waiting for the chance to raise cash for Bush. And no wonder. He has impeccable establishment credentials.

This kite – it doesn’t merit being dubbed a plan yet – is flown as a sign the party’s money-wing is unhappy with the choices available to it. Chris Christie has some baggage. Marco Rubio is kinda callow and not entirely baggage-free either. Rand Paul is a no-no for all the obvious reasons. And who knows what other mistakes lurk out there waiting for their 15 minutes of party-wrecking fame?

You know what you get with Jeb. Even if he’s been out of office since 2006.

But, really, it is hard not to read such stories and conclude that the Republican party is exhausted. Since (from a conservative perspective) Jeb’s father and brother each disappointed – albeit in rather different ways – there’s something quaintly optimistic about suggesting third time lucky with the Bushes.

And it’s not as though Jeb’s a home run or a slam dunk either. He’s hopelessly soft on immigration, for one thing, and rather too fond of empowering the Department of Education for another. That’s before you even consider the possibility – faint, I know! – of Bush Fatigue.

It’s not that Jeb’s an utterly hopeless candidate. Nor, at 61, is he too old. But, still, the disadvantages seem acute. Do we really want to go through all this stuff all over again?

Granted, Hillary Clinton’s reasons for running for the Presidency (we assume she is running) are hardly any more noble. It’s about time she enjoyed her turn; about time, too, America elected a woman Commander-in-Chief. And that’s about it. An attractive combination of entitlement and identity politics. Ask not what I will do; ask instead how my historic presidency will make you feel. Vote Hillary, consider yourself a decent person. And stick one to the Vast Right-Wng Conspiracy while you’re at it.

What a joyous prospect. Hillary might be hard to beat anyway but even a numbskull could craft an effective advert asking Americans if they felt like electing the third President Bush or the first female President.

That assumes Jeb might win the GOP nomination. Which is far from obvious. Romney beat a field of midgets and, anyway, was the next guy in line from four years previously. Jeb might call on a formidable machine and have access to a vast war-chest but he’s not the next guy (there is no next guy) and he’s been so far from the fray for so long it’s not obvious or guaranteed that he retains the enthusiasm or dedication required to play it as though you are serious about winning.

Stranger things have happened but it’s hard to think of many stranger than returning to the Bush well for a third time. Welcome to America, a land where just about anyone can become President. Hell, we elected Dubya didn’t we?

“He would be outstanding” says Henry Kissinger. “He is someone who is experienced, moderate and thoughtful.” Maybe so but those are not necessarily qualities useful in the primary. They might even be considered grievous handicaps. And could you receive a more telling endorsement than one from old Henry K? It takes insidery-insiderness to a whole new level.

True, the Republican party is usually wise enough to choose the most electable candidate. Perhaps that would be Jeb but it’s not obvious it would be.

And unless Bush can begin as the presumptive favourite it seems unlikely, I should guess, he will be interested in running at all. Which is one reason why I think these calls to draft Jeb should most sensibly be seen as desperate cries for help.

He won’t run (I think!). But, secretly and even though we know it would be appalling, we’d quite like him to. Think of the soap opera!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016; 2016election; bush; bush2016; election2014; election2016; hillary; hillary2016; jebbush
Isn't the vice presidential nominee from a previous cycle usually considered in line?
1 posted on 04/01/2014 10:49:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Jeb Bush and Slick Willie’s wife is the best this country can do to replace that bass turd sitting in the White Hut, this country is in deeper trouble than most of us already think it is.


2 posted on 04/01/2014 10:51:44 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Happy Brain Injury Awareness Month!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tweedledrunk and Tweedleduck.


3 posted on 04/01/2014 10:54:13 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We now have a permanent, perpetual political elite, duly selected and anointed by the mediots. It's actually worse than a monarchy.

Mark my words, as soon as the 0bama girls are grown Moochy will run for the WH, probably successfully. The media drumbeat will begin in January, 2017.

4 posted on 04/01/2014 10:56:01 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't give up! The liberals are buggering and aborting themselves into extinction.)
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To: clintonh8r

Don’t forget Chelsea. She’ll be in that mix at some point as well.


5 posted on 04/01/2014 10:58:46 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

6 posted on 04/01/2014 11:00:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m unwilling and not ready to even contemplate another Clinton or Bush.


7 posted on 04/01/2014 11:03:11 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No more Bushs, no more Clintons, no more Kennedys, no more Chaney’s, No more Obamas.


8 posted on 04/01/2014 11:05:19 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If that’s it then we deserve what we get.


9 posted on 04/01/2014 11:05:27 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jeb versus Hillary?

Maybe God can’t help us.

Maybe God won’t help us.

Maybe God shouldn’t help us.

Seems to me that America has run out of the right stuff in a very big way.


10 posted on 04/01/2014 11:12:49 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OHHHH ! HELL NO !


11 posted on 04/01/2014 11:18:29 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

325,000,000 people and we can’t find a new family to vote for? Who next Michelle Obama followed by Chelsea and George P. Bush?


12 posted on 04/01/2014 11:20:44 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think I’m leaving the country if either of ‘em gets elected.


13 posted on 04/01/2014 11:49:03 PM PDT by NaturalBornC1t1zen (Man plans and the Gods Laugh.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The very thought of another Bush or Clinton has me seriously thinking about emigrating to Finland. It would prove to me that we have entered the realm of hopelessness ... I really don’t want to witness America’s death rattle up close. I wish I saw a Reagan on the Horizon ... but I don’t!


14 posted on 04/01/2014 11:50:32 PM PDT by galtman (America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.)
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To: NaturalBornC1t1zen

I’m guessing it IS going to be the two of them.

Oy vey.


15 posted on 04/01/2014 11:58:12 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
If Jeb Bush and Slick Willie’s wife is the best this country can do to replace that bass turd sitting in the White Hut, this country is in deeper trouble than most of us already think it is.

That result would have Satan chortling with glee in hell.

16 posted on 04/02/2014 12:00:18 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Clinton- I support raising taxes, keeping and fixing obamacare
Bush- so do I

what’s the point of voting for a liberal republican?????


17 posted on 04/02/2014 12:07:25 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“True, the Republican party is usually wise enough to choose the most electable candidate. “

Whaaaaa? Dole/McCain/Romney had great presidencies. Bush I was a one termer.


18 posted on 04/02/2014 12:10:01 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: clintonh8r

More than that.

If you listened to Mark Levin earlier this week, the real problem are the mega-rich international money bundlers, They bankroll creatures like the Bushes and Clintons. They are crony capitalists whose sole objective in politics is to ease a one-world trading economy.

They don;t give a damn about social issues or patriotism - their “nation” is the international market. GE is a perfect example.

Trying to take our country back from these people will be very difficult - money talks and they have lots of it and are getting lots more from offshoring operations.


19 posted on 04/02/2014 12:10:34 AM PDT by ZULU (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jen is a creation of the elite establishment — FAIL.


20 posted on 04/02/2014 12:19:41 AM PDT by boycott
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jeb Bush can kiss my ass. Hillary isn’t even worthy to do that.

There has to be an alternative or I’m done with it.


21 posted on 04/02/2014 12:21:31 AM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: ZULU

Truth.


22 posted on 04/02/2014 12:29:11 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
LOL, the party’s money-wing is unhappy with the choices available to it...... Rand Paul is a no-no for all the obvious reasons.
23 posted on 04/02/2014 12:35:36 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a joyous prospect. Hillary might be hard to beat anyway but even a numbskull could craft an effective advert asking Americans if they felt like electing the third President Bush or the first female President.

Goodness. They believe a Third Bush President could be a good “sell” over the first woman President? I want those heavy drugs this author is on. Apparently pretty effective.p


24 posted on 04/02/2014 2:59:18 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: DaxtonBrown

Not only that, but why is everyone forgetting that Bush BARELY won both times. Obviously people are not that excited over the Bush Dynasty.


25 posted on 04/02/2014 3:01:52 AM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary will only run if they decide that Jeb can’t win. It is their program:

If NextPresident == Jeb Bush
Then NoHillary
Else NextPresident = Hillary

We need to insert GOTO statement to this:

NextPresident = TedCruz
End


26 posted on 04/02/2014 3:11:34 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: onyx

And Jeb Bush is pushing the disastrous Common Core!


27 posted on 04/02/2014 3:28:10 AM PDT by abclily
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Once again... the GOP wants to lose gracefully. Not that Hillary can be beaten anyway, but damn... show some fight at least for the benefit of the downticket races.


28 posted on 04/02/2014 4:22:11 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If these two want it, they’ll get it. Nothing can stop them. The two biggest crime families in the country squaring off yet again—and the American people in the cross-fire.


29 posted on 04/02/2014 4:52:50 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Both names are political "skidmarks".

Only people who seek the end of our nation would pursue such idiocy.

Stock up on tar and feathers.

30 posted on 04/02/2014 5:09:22 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The media is what rules this country and appoints corrupt evil socialists like Obama, hillary clinton as rulers etc.

People are looking for some ruler or savior. no person can make government work because government and the media which enables it are the problem.socialism/government can never work and the gov that governs best is the one that governs least. get all that bs out of the way of the free market. that is all that is needed

31 posted on 04/02/2014 6:24:14 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: napscoordinator

“Not only that, but why is everyone forgetting that Bush BARELY won both times. “

George W actually lost the popular vote in 2000. The American people voted for Gore. The states, through the Electorial College, voted for Bush. If a few hundred people in Florida had voted for Gore instead of Ralph Nader, Gore would have won the Electoral College.

The popular vote in 2000 suggests the country had Bush fatigue then.


32 posted on 04/02/2014 6:31:24 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Jeb Bush vs Hillary Clinton, 2016?

Just shoot me.

33 posted on 04/02/2014 6:57:24 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Jeb Bush vs Hillary Clinton, 2016?

Just shoot me.

34 posted on 04/02/2014 6:57:25 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bone-Chilling: Libs Sporting “Hillary-Michelle 2016” Bumper Stickers…

The thought of which makes me shudder uncontrollably.

VIA:

http://weaselzippers.us/

35 posted on 04/02/2014 7:14:15 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: abclily
And Jeb Bush is pushing the disastrous Common Core!

That alone makes Jeb Bush a total disastrous idiot.

36 posted on 04/02/2014 8:44:38 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: F15Eagle
I’m guessing it IS going to be the two of them.

I've been saying for quite some time that we have a one party system...this would prove me right.

FMCDH(BITS)

37 posted on 04/02/2014 8:52:54 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Caipirabob
Stock up on tar and feathers.

Stock up on ammo.

FMCDH(BITS)

38 posted on 04/02/2014 8:55:30 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Soul of the South

~~~Bush fatigue~~~ Forward!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MW44jsYi0g


39 posted on 04/02/2014 10:57:05 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Psalm 144

Its like asking you to choose between cancer and ebola.


40 posted on 04/02/2014 3:10:28 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: onyx

Exactly! I’m wondering about Jeb’s connections with all the textbook publishers in Texas. Many of the public school textbooks come from Texas. Money, money, money?


41 posted on 04/02/2014 5:23:36 PM PDT by abclily
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