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Caribbean Payback: Europe's Former Colonies Battle For Slavery Reparations
Foreign Affairs ^ | April 2, 2014 | Jonathan Holloway

Posted on 04/03/2014 5:11:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 04/03/2014 5:11:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Europe gave them roads, railways, the model for a functioning civil service, the concept of property rights, and some of the most beautiful and bountiful places on the planet to call their own.

Ay “debt” that may have existed has been repaid a thousand times over.


2 posted on 04/03/2014 5:14:22 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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lets go back thousands of years. lets go after the muslims for invading and enslaving europeans, turkey, israel, lets go after the mongols, and the persians, and the babylonians and the syrians, anbd the egyptians....

man up, world.


3 posted on 04/03/2014 5:17:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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The slave trade was a horrible thing but it’s important to realize that at the heart of the slave trade were the Arabs, who had been slavers for a thousand years before the Europeans got into it.

Also worth mentioning is that the only holders of African slaves today are again... Arabs.


4 posted on 04/03/2014 5:21:30 PM PDT by samtheman
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How will the ‘anti-racist’ Europeans respond? Remember, in Europe, anything you say can and will be used against you in a hate crime court of law.


5 posted on 04/03/2014 5:21:53 PM PDT by Viennacon
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Don’t forget the Vikings. They took and sold slaves too.
I’m sure there is one or two wandering around somewhere we can squeeze for a few bucks. Maybe have them donate a Saab?


6 posted on 04/03/2014 5:22:37 PM PDT by drunknsage
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yeah, good one. i wasn’t doing an all-inclusive, just examples from thousands of years ago.


7 posted on 04/03/2014 5:24:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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It’s the haves and the have nots.
Case studies are available courtesy of the lottery system. Having prosperity is dependent on more than just getting a few or a lot of dollars. Socialism won’t fix what centuries have failed to foster.


8 posted on 04/03/2014 5:28:54 PM PDT by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not ju st selectively for Democrats.)
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It’s the haves and the have nots.
Case studies are available courtesy of the lottery system. Having prosperity is dependent on more than just getting a few or a lot of dollars. Socialism won’t fix what centuries have failed to foster.


9 posted on 04/03/2014 5:28:54 PM PDT by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not ju st selectively for Democrats.)
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They are calling for Europe and the Caribbean to collaborate in writing a new shared history of empire and colonialism -- a history that would enable the region’s population to productively reimagine its present and future politics.

What is this even supposed to mean? Everyone can agree slavery was a horrible beginning, but be that as it may, what are any of these places worth outside of tourism?

10 posted on 04/03/2014 5:30:08 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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The shake-down never ends.

How about they seek reparations from descendants of the African chieftains who sold them into slavery? That should hold them awhile; then we can get back to them.

11 posted on 04/03/2014 5:31:09 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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Rather than paying them they could bundle them up and give them a complimentary boat ride back to Africa .... seems fair ... I’m sure the Arab and African slave traders would gladly consider compensation upon their return.


12 posted on 04/03/2014 5:32:15 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Waiting to shine the light on a honest, moral and ethical person in the Administration ...waiting, .)
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So they’re gonna sue the Africans that sold their ancestors into slavery, right?


13 posted on 04/03/2014 5:36:38 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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The colonial slave traders are all dead, Jim.


14 posted on 04/03/2014 5:37:17 PM PDT by windsorknot
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Lots of touristas might not show up if this becomes a real nuisance movement.

You can’t eat non-existent reparations so the Black Extremists and Island Stupids need to be taught a lesson or two.


15 posted on 04/03/2014 5:39:26 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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I was in South Florida for several months before Obama was elected. Radio stations from the Caribbean were jubilant that finally they would see some reparations paid to them by Obama after he was elected.

These people are nuts. They’ll have to move to the US, go on welfare and Obamacare, a direct form of “reparations.”


16 posted on 04/03/2014 5:40:16 PM PDT by Veto!
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To: samtheman
The slave trade was a horrible thing but it’s important to realize that at the heart of the slave trade were the Arabs, who had been slavers for a thousand years before the Europeans got into it.
Also worth mentioning is that the only holders of African slaves today are again... Arabs.

The Arabs got their slaves from the African tribes that enslaved EACH other. The Arabs couldn't have just walked into Africa and take what they wanted. They bought and sold...but first the local Africans sold their own to those Arabs.

Also, my husband and I lived in the middle east for five years, Saudi Arabia, and there WAS slavery there but manumission occurred the 1970's. No slavery when we were there in the early-mid 1980's. The KSA is very different since the discovery and development of the petroleum/natural gas industry. They couldn't help but be massively changed with all the money, foreigners, trade and new industry pouring in all these decades. It would be impossible for them to remain unchanged.
The U.S. Air Force was in the KSA too, though they kept a VERY low profile and we traveled a lot and often to the other countries over there--Bahrain, the Emirates, Yemen...Egypt TWICE. That was our favorite place over there--twice cruising down the Nile.

Every culture in those days had slavery: China, Indochina, India, the middle/near east, Europe and the New World. There aren't many older countries and cultures that DIDN'T have it.
Slavery is an old business not endemic to any culture or country.

17 posted on 04/03/2014 5:40:38 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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Repatriate them to their homelands of Africa, then see which conditions they prefer! Let them see first hand what Africans can do.... send them to Sierra Leone, or Mali.... better yet! The Sudan!

Fools never know when they have it good!


18 posted on 04/03/2014 5:42:12 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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…let’s go after the cavemen from the tribe on the other side of the river.


19 posted on 04/03/2014 5:42:36 PM PDT by Veto!
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Don’t forget the Vikings. They took and sold slaves too.
I’m sure there is one or two wandering around somewhere we can squeeze for a few bucks. Maybe have them donate a Saab

We have friends in Sweden. The Scandinavians pronounce "VIKINGS" as "veee-kings." Boy, does THAT ever sound wimpy. VAI-kings sounds much, much bolder.

20 posted on 04/03/2014 5:43:13 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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