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Hagel: Too soon to draw conclusions from shooting(!)
Associated Press ^ | Apr 3, 2014 7:49 PM EDT | Lolita C. Baldor

Posted on 04/03/2014 6:34:27 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel says it’s too soon to draw any broad conclusions about safety at U.S. military bases after the deadly shootings at Fort Hood, Texas.

He said Thursday that as the investigation unfolds, the Pentagon will continue to take a close look at any new lessons that can be learned from Wednesday’s tragedy and implement any needed changes to base security. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: conclusions; forthood; hagel; liberalagenda
Some nerve to use the same words that George Casey used with respect to when Nidal Hasan went on his murder spree.
1 posted on 04/03/2014 6:34:27 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Bunch of sobs...


2 posted on 04/03/2014 6:36:31 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Olog-hai

Has anyone asked the question....Is he a Muslim?


3 posted on 04/03/2014 6:37:07 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Olog-hai

My conclusion is that when seconds count, the PoLice are jus’ minutes away.....


4 posted on 04/03/2014 6:37:57 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Sacajaweau

I don’t think we’re supposed to ask or wonder if he’s Muslim. Above all we are supposed to be politically correct.


5 posted on 04/03/2014 6:38:08 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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To: Olog-hai

“Apparently the only government department without a military force at its disposal is the military.” —Mark Stein


6 posted on 04/03/2014 6:39:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; a man who respects it has earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: Sacajaweau

Hagel? That question has been asked about him several times, what with his reputation for openly defending Islam. Just not asked by the right people.


7 posted on 04/03/2014 6:39:47 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SgtBob

It’s unbelievable to me, that on a military base, that trained military are not allowed to have weapons with them. Both of these Ft. Hood shootings would have had far less death or injuries if the military men and women on base had weapons on them.


8 posted on 04/03/2014 6:39:58 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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To: Olog-hai

It’s not too soon ... Obama is making it “open season” on soldiers at bases.


9 posted on 04/03/2014 6:41:06 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Olog-hai

After Navy Yard shooting Hagel assured that he would have the Pentagon to a top to bottom investigation of security measures at all bases here or abroad. That was never done obviously.


10 posted on 04/03/2014 6:41:28 PM PDT by floriduh voter (My ducks are not on the menu. They're funny looking dogs.)
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To: Olog-hai
Chuck Hagel says it’s too soon to draw any broad conclusions about safety at U.S. military bases after the deadly shootings at Fort Hood, Texas.

Uh, Chuckie? If a lone gunman can, in both cases, strut in and slaughter multiple unarmed service people, perhaps we can tentatively offer the hypothesis that just maybe the bodies on the ground do suggest a conclusion about safety on military bases? I mean, what the hell do you want?

11 posted on 04/03/2014 6:42:58 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Olog-hai

One conclusion is painfully obvious... disarmed people are sitting ducks.


12 posted on 04/03/2014 6:47:13 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Olog-hai

Hagel = Useless.....Obama = more Useless........Obamabots = Useless Democrats!!!


13 posted on 04/03/2014 6:48:26 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: ViLaLuz

The rats are playing this one close to the vest because he is Hispanic.


14 posted on 04/03/2014 6:49:24 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: Olog-hai

Does Chuck Hagel travel anywhere without armed guards?


15 posted on 04/03/2014 6:49:35 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Arm the soldiers again , thats whats need to be done. The poor troops at military bases are like sitting ducks because they are disarmed


16 posted on 04/03/2014 6:51:55 PM PDT by The Right wing Infidel
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To: Olog-hai

The risk is easily minimized. Drop the political correctness BS and allow all E-5s and above in good standing to open carry a side arm on post. Also have a fully armed platoon, that is, rifles and light machine guns, ready at all times in all combat arms posts. Like Fort Hood.


17 posted on 04/03/2014 6:52:49 PM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: Olog-hai

Hagel? Too soon?
You are still a dumbass.
You were a dumbass when you were in Nebraska, and you still are now.

Glad you left my state, but sad you are unleashed on America.


18 posted on 04/03/2014 6:52:49 PM PDT by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: Olog-hai
Something is very wrong here.

Three days before, they were looking for a particular guy that was supposed to pull of a Fort Hood Hasan scenario.

In other words, they had intelligence. Did they even check at Ft. Hood?? Or was that too obvious.

Also, I read that this dude bought his gun at the same store that Hasan did.

Maybe find out if he ever visited Hasan.

Another coincidence...Hasan got a promotion and went to Ft. Hood. Looks like this guy did, too.

Bet the FBI's shredding like crazy.

19 posted on 04/03/2014 6:58:07 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Olog-hai

I believe if they armed folks, seargeants and up, just allowing sidearms to be carried per normal dress, etc, this would really cut into the military’s ability to use their bases as false flag incidents whenever the president deemed it necessary and wanted to do something legally impossible without such incident.


20 posted on 04/03/2014 6:58:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Trained soldiers are not allowed to have weapons on post. Yet this one trained soldier had a weapon and killed three people.


21 posted on 04/03/2014 7:03:13 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Dilbert San Diego

IMO, neither would have happened if it were known that there were armed military personnel on that base……………

It is totally idiotic that there are no armed personnel on any military base……..

Just another killing field…….


22 posted on 04/03/2014 7:04:24 PM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: Sacajaweau

I never thought about that. Was this the guy the FBI was looking for? With all the NSA spying they couldn’t find the guy?

As for Hagel, when I think of all the good men, and several were my friends, who died in Viet Nam then think about Hagel, Kerry and McCain living long enough to help destroy this nation, it makes me sick.


23 posted on 04/03/2014 7:06:24 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Both of these Ft. Hood shootings would have had far less death or injuries if the military men and women on base had weapons on them.

No doubt true.

However, we should probably keep in mind that this is not some new age leftist policy. My understanding is that military men for centuries have generally not carried weapons or ammunition except as issued them for particular exercises or missions.

This probably goes back to when rank and file soldiers were recruited from the lower and often criminal classes, and basically the officers were always concerned about the possibility of mutiny.

So the officers went armed at all times (officer's sidearms) and the soldiers did not.

24 posted on 04/03/2014 7:18:38 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Our family has traveled in Israel, and in that country every one in the military carries a weapon with them whether on or off duty. It is common to see young men and women out in the streets of Jerusalem and other cities in restaurants, night clubs and stores with an Uzzi slung over their shoulder. Street crime is non existent there. Probably because everywhere you go you see armed people carrying on with their every day lives.


25 posted on 04/03/2014 7:29:59 PM PDT by Desparado
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To: Olog-hai

Two-Buck Chuck couldn’t draw a circle with a crayon. Dumbass.


26 posted on 04/03/2014 7:48:17 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Sherman Logan
I participated in two Team Spirit exercises with full combat gear and M16s. We were not issued any live ammo. However while on base Rat Patrol we had Colt 1911s with two mags of Winchester 45 ACP but could not carry with the mag loaded. Ha! We all all slapped a mag in as soon as we left the COD!

Let the guys carry!

27 posted on 04/03/2014 7:51:13 PM PDT by Sweating_Bullets (You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks.)
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To: Desparado

I don’t doubt you are correct. However, the US is not Israel, and while I don’t have a military background, my understanding is that US soldiers have never carried weapons when on base except as their duties required.

Possibly this policy should be changed, but it’s not a Clinton or Obama innovation.


28 posted on 04/03/2014 7:57:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Olog-hai

Perhaps one day someone may peruse the side effect disclosure on the meds that all these shooters seem to be on.

On that day the missing clue will be found.


29 posted on 04/03/2014 8:04:27 PM PDT by Captain7seas
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To: Olog-hai

An IQ-free Zone talking about a Gun-free Zone.


30 posted on 04/03/2014 8:13:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Olog-hai

(see tagline)


31 posted on 04/03/2014 9:16:49 PM PDT by Gritty (For your psycho gunman, a military base is basically a grade-school in uniform-Mark Steyn)
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To: Sacajaweau

Hagel: Mac daddies ba** less sock puppet speaks.

We all feel so much safer now that mr. sock puppet took care of haircuts and pay deductions, but the most dangerous evil that threatens us all smoking on base will be banned.

Handing them a gun and ordering them to kill another human is OK because we said so. Well at least their hair will be correct and they will be paid less and maybe they will not have to worry about second hand smoke.

Wow just wow.


32 posted on 04/04/2014 1:03:35 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: VerySadAmerican
It wasn't the guy....But the report said "there may be others going to do the same thing".

In other words, someone snitched. And it had to be someone from Fort Hood OR the shop that sold him the gun....since it was the same shop that sold one to Hasan.

33 posted on 04/04/2014 3:47:56 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Olog-hai

34 posted on 04/04/2014 7:23:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; a man who respects it has earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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