Posted on 04/04/2014 9:15:54 AM PDT by Drango
Governor Deval Patrick’s administration moved Thursday to stamp out smoking in public housing in Massachusetts.
The Department of Housing and Community Development issued guidelines to the state’s 240 local housing authorities, urging them to develop smoke-free policies for their state-aided public housing units. Such policies would prohibit tenants from smoking in a housing authority’s buildings and apartments.
Local authorities could not ban tenants who smoke, nor could they force a tenant to quit smoking in order to keep their apartment, as long as they do not smoke in any of a housing authority’s buildings or units.
Smoking is allowed in state public housing units, although it is banned in common areas.
Housing Undersecretary Aaron Gornstein said the goal is to protect the health of residents from secondhand smoke; prevent deaths and injuries from smoking-related fires; and reduce the cost of having to scrub away smoke stains, replace carpeting, and clean ductwork and fans when turning over a unit to a nonsmoker.
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Answer: It’s not.
Take the King’s Coin, Do the King’s Bidding.
Don’t like it? Get off of welfare then.
Right on. Some argue otherwise on this thread --- put your flamesuit on.
Is there a heroin addict that isn't also hooked on cigarettes? I've heard more than one former heroin addicts that say that giving up heroin was easier than giving up cigarettes.
Where is my choice as to whether or not I support people living in public housing? When do I get a say as to what they do with my money?
“That’s not an apples to apples comparison and I suspect you know that.
Having said that, YES the Bank does tell you what your obligations are during the term of the loan. For example: You must maintain adequate PROPERTY INSURANCE in the event of fire for example, either damages or destroys the home your insurance must either (a)put the home back to liveable condition or (b) be sufficient in sum to replace the home (build new) to equivalent value of the loan
You as the borrower are also required to pay PROPERTY TAXES (if required in the state which the loan is issued) either through ESCROW payments included with your mortgage payment or providing proof of payment each year to the bank.
So YES, a bank DOES tell you what you MUST DO during the term of the loan.”
If they have money to spend on cigarettes, then they have money to pay normal rent.
“You’re telling other people what they can/cannot do in order to live in public housing! How’s that different from what I stated?”
Their SNAP/EBT cards specify what they CANNOT buy with them, why's public housing any different?
Like you said, "take the kings coin, do the kings bidding."
Their SNAP/EBT cards specify what they CANNOT buy with them, why's public housing any different?
Like you said, "take the kings coin, do the kings bidding."
“Answer: It’s not.”
“I say if they’re living on public assistance and we’re paying for their housing, we absolutely DO have the right to tell them what they cannot do in OUR house.”
You absolutely are saying what they cannot do while living in public housing by screening them for drugs. I happen to agree, if they're on drugs, no public housing. Period.
I suspect you're a smoker and object to "no smoking in public housing" because of that.
Here's the facts: If you're on public assistance of any kind, then YES, the taxpayers absolutely DO have a say so in what they're paying for and how you must behave using taxpayer money.
It's done every day. "SNAP", "EBT", Food Stamps (all the same thing) specify what you CANNOT BUY with them. You cannot buy alcohol, cigarettes and all kinds of prepared or "luxury item" foods with them. That's exactly why welfare recipients SELL their SNAP/EBT/Food Stamps for cash so they CAN buy cigarettes and booze, and by the way the very drugs you stated you don't want them using while living in public housing!.
Bottom line: if one doesn't like the rules that come along with public assistance of any kind, then DON'T TAKE THE "ASSISTANCE" and waste my taxpayer dollars, period.
I don't care if it's "just cigarettes" either. Don't like the rules, don't take the money. It's that simple. If you're breaking the rules, then you deserve to get your ass thrown off assistance. Period.
Are you paying attention to what this thread is about? What do you think Massachusetts is doing telling welfare recipients that they cannot smoke in PUBLIC HOUSING, that the TAXPAYERS (not them) paid for?
KNOCK, KNOCK --- hello?
“By the way, a bank may also call the loan IMMEDIATELY DUE if you do NOT maintain an insurance policy on the home covering loss in event of fire or other disaster.
YES, banks specify what your obligations are for ANY LOAN that they issue. They’re called Terms & Conditions.
You’d know this if you ever borrowed money from a bank.”
Agree! Now also remove all food stamp benefits, internet access subsidies, Section-8 housing assistance and the rest of it too while you're at it!
You don't work, you don't eat. That's how I was brought up and even when I was poor living out of my car for six months, I didn't take one dime of Government assistance. I got a job and worked my ass off to get out of that situation.
If I can do it, anyone can. I get so pissed off at the "refuse to work to support themselves" leeches in our society. Get out of my wallet and get an f'ing job already!
Clearly I nailed it that you're a cigarette smoker and that's your "thing." You're also incapable of having a logical discussion because you're ignorant of how our capitalist system works. Get back to me after you've passed a rudimentary Economics 101 class. Until then, have a nice day.
And for those who would whine about there not being any jobs, well guess what? You have millions of unemployed leeches suddenly cut off from benefits, you can bet your sweet bippy those politicians will very quickly start feeling the heat and do what they need to in order to enact policies that will allow companies to create more jobs.
And then I realize "No, that's Lazamataz."
We're talking about people choosing to spend money on their addiction while demanding taxpayers funding their housing.
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