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Ft. Hood shooter had been denied leave day of rampage, source says
The Los Angeles Times ^ | 04-04-2014 | Richard A. Serrano

Posted on 04/04/2014 3:08:11 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016

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To: dfwgator

LOL!

Oh, the humanity!

(I have eaten cereal with water, in the past... Not recommending that)


41 posted on 04/04/2014 5:05:31 PM PDT by Salamander (Agent Of Fortune)
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To: PaulCruz2016

Denied leave? Good Lord, that was a regular occurrence when I served (USAF 1970-1974). EVERYONE who has ever served knew and knows that the #1 Rule is: The needs of the Service come first. We knew that and we accepted that. Oh, we may have been pissed off, but we accepted it.


42 posted on 04/04/2014 5:21:06 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Shimmer1

I saw it happen several times. Especially with someone who was having trouble in other areas.


43 posted on 04/04/2014 5:23:11 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: pfflier

If he had exceeded his leave balance it may require higher level approval.


44 posted on 04/04/2014 5:24:15 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Dr. Ursus
Loser on Meds-what could go wrong?

Perhaps if shrinks were responsible for those to whom
they prescribe SSRIs , the world would be a better place

45 posted on 04/04/2014 5:49:11 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: PaulCruz2016

what we’ve gleaned:

enlisted in PR national guard for 9 years. A post on another thread says he was on ‘military leave’ from the PR PD but CNN says he was on the PD ‘at one time.’
Deployed 2007, one year, to Sinai/Kuwait.
2008-2010 (back in PR? divorce/re-marriage timing?)
2010 Enlisted active duty Army, infantry
Apr 2010 PCS to Ft. Bliss; reassigned to motor pool, truck driver.
2011 Deployed Iraq, four months. Self-reports PTSD and traumatic brain injury during this stint.
2011-Feb 2014 PCS Ft. Bliss - details?
Late 2013 - grandfather and mother pass within 2 months of each other. Leave for mother initially denied (medical status reasons?), granted for 24 hours, extended to 48 hrs. (military pays ticket?)
Feb 2014 - PCS to Ft. Hood for medical evaluation/PTSD testing. Meets with psychiatrist, presenting symptoms depression, insomnia, anxiety; prescribed medications including Ambien. PTSD evaluation begins.
Feb/Mar - requests leave which is later denied(skuttlebutt)
March 1 - purchases 45 cal.
end of March - moves wife and daug into offbase apt
Day of shooting: in no certain order: enters three buildings, including his own unit and that of Personnel, firing at occupants. “Credible information” (CNN) there is was an argument with members of his unit. (separate from Personnel?)
Drives to and enters Personnel building and requests submission form to request leave. Told by officer to come back tomorrow (office closed maybe after 4pm?). Leaves, returns, opens fire, killing at least one. Leaves. Fires randomly on pedestrians on each leg of the drive as he drives from building to building.
When drawn down upon by a female officer, Lopez does not fire but chooses to self-eliminate instead.

Obvious questions:
1. after 9 years of NG and almost 4 years of active, shouldn’t he have been higher in rank than Specialist?
2. After gaining rank in NG and being a PR cop, would being assigned as a truck driver (one who takes orders as opposed to one who gives orders) have caused some deep resentment (identity crisis) that dominated his behavior?
3. Was he evaluated for adult-onset schizophrenia in 2011?


46 posted on 04/04/2014 6:11:50 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: longfellowsmuse

Agree. A good man who it appears had been yanked around by his chain of command after his grandfather & mother died, transferred from Fort Bliss to Fort Hood shortly thereafter, pumped full of dangerous meds, denied leave, and then denied even being handed a blank leave request form by some asshat in Personnel.

He snapped, and I’ll bet he then went to his vehicle to retrieve the .45, returned, and began blasting. Awful crime of passion, fueled by stress, Ambien, SSRIs, and dickhead Army bureaucrats.

Obama and the Lt. Gen. say they will get to the bottom of the matter. Yes they will, and then bury the truth, just as they did with the Muzzie jihadist Hassan.

Flame away...24 years in the armed forces...and sick of what the PC, leftist crapweasels have done to the military.


47 posted on 04/04/2014 6:48:10 PM PDT by twister881
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To: Future Snake Eater

LOL - it IS a symptom of the new military...


48 posted on 04/04/2014 6:55:36 PM PDT by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: longfellowsmuse

Heck right before i got out of the air force someone was making obscene phone calls to my wife while i was at work. I got caller id when it first came out and found out it was someone i worked with. Took the caller id in to the capt and he ordered me to apologize to the bastard making the calls. Yeah i thought about fragging a couple of guys.


49 posted on 04/04/2014 7:00:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TMSuchman

I hope you find relief and better health. I may be wrong, often am, but I did not see where the shooter had experienced brain trauma, i thought he saw no combat during his tour?


50 posted on 04/04/2014 7:40:11 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Shimmer1

When I was in the Navy, my division leadership tried to do this to me. Mind you, my ship was in the shipyard at the time. I requested captain’s mast, which everybody up my chain tried to talk me out of. My division officer was removed for-cause, and my department head and master chief got letters in their service records. The ship’s Captain noted that this action by my leadership had all the troubling signs of unreasonable and illegal retaliation although he was unable to ascertain any rationale for it.

I figured my life was going to be hell for the remaining 2 years of my enlistment, but they largely left me alone.

If you’re going to deny leave to one of your people that had a death in the family, you better think about that real hard.


51 posted on 04/04/2014 8:49:16 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: dfwgator
Or he poured cereal into the bowl before checking if there was milk first.

LOL !!! I hate when that happens :)

52 posted on 04/04/2014 10:53:10 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Decriminalize Tax Evasion)
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To: pfflier

Agreed. Unit commanders can approve leave beyond 30 days or if the member has no leave left to use.

Washinton? Not likely.


53 posted on 04/04/2014 10:57:41 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Mastador1

He was in the reserves well before going to active duty, so who knows if any head injuries were occurred before moving over. TBI’s have an accumulative effect/s & take up to 30-40 years to heal depending on severity.

The Army [read as his Plt leader or Plt Sgt] should have explained to him why leave request of shot down. Also since he may have been starting a new med. routine he should have been restricted to the Unit area/s. He was not med. able to travel long distances.

Thank you for your concern. I have been working on my issues for over 16 years [and I have put my family through hell for it too] but we’re still all here hanging in & living life on life’s terms.


54 posted on 04/05/2014 4:50:01 AM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: twister881

You have gotten it exactly right


55 posted on 04/06/2014 12:29:37 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: PaulCruz2016

bttt Copperas Cove connection?


56 posted on 09/20/2014 5:35:12 PM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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