Posted on 04/05/2014 8:09:38 AM PDT by varmintman
What do think he means when he says he is making “a new covenant” that is “not according to the old covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand out of the land of Egypt”?
One that includes the diaspora, because soon after, they were exiled to Babylonia.
That is an effect not a covenant.
Does the new covenant mean that we are no longer required to follow HIS law?
What do you think?
What do I think? What do you think?
No, you’re the one objecting to my argument of the gospel of the grace of God in the Lord Jesus Christ. Its time for you to say what you think he means by a new covenant.
As usual, I can’t get a straight answer to this question.
I’m not objecting. I’m asking what it means, and not getting a straight answer. Are you bound by HIS law or not? If not, why not do whatever you want? If so, there are 614 of them, not just ten.
I've stayed with you up to now because I thought this was a good faith discussion. But maybe you're another one of those around here who just likes to hide and take sniper shots. A number of people here attack what they don't like, but fail miserably in putting up a solid argument for their case. You appear to be one of them. If so, I'll say bye, because this is a waste of my time.
OK, sounds like an honest statement. You're asking what "new covenant" means? Is that an honest question, like you're really not sure? Because it seems like you've already made up your mind about this.
So, with this new covenant, are we bound by HIS law? If so, remember, there are 614 of them.
Obviously, you won’t give me a straight answer, so, forget it.
What do you think? How do you interpret this:
I will make a new covenant...not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake (Jer 31:31-32).
The old covenant was basically,
You shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them (Lev 18:1-5, Ex 24:7).
The new covenant is summed up in Habbukkuk:
the just shall live by faith (Habakkuk 2:3).
This takes us into Romans, Galatians and Hebrews in the New Testament which explains in detail how
by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified but that the righteousness of God without the law is manifested...even the righteousness of God which is by faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 3:20-22).
The Book of Hebrews, written to the Jews (which I assume you are) explains all of this in detail in a way a Hebrew would understand.
Can you give me a straight answer?
When I asked YOU for a straight answer ("what do you think He means by a new covenant?"), I didn't get one.
Ball's in your court pal.
That’s not a straight answer. Does it mean that you are now free to commit murder, adultery, or sodomy?
It means that Jesus Christ has absorbed all of God’s wrath, condemnation and punishment for the murder, adultery, or sodomy you may commit. Man may punish you, but God has already punished His Son for every wrong you and I will ever commit. Therefore, because God is a righteous and Holy God, he will never judge you for the same sin he already judged on the body of His Son because that would be double jeopardy. The new covenant, therefore, declares, “I will remember your sins and iniquities not more” because those acts have been fully judged and condemned on the body of Jesus Christ on the cross.
Then, tell me why Christians oppose those sins? Tell me why Christians are opposed to abortion, gay marriage. I know why I am, but you’re telling me it’s OK to do anything.
So now, instead of being under the law, we are under grace and are dead to the law and sin. We are in Christ and he is in us. We have been born again and now have his nature in us, fulfilling the promise of the new covenant, "I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people" (Jer 31:33). This is not the result of the efforts of man to keep the law which never works, but the result of the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ, our burnt offering, by which we have received his Spirit in us. We now like what he likes and hate what he hates. We don't sin becasue we don't want to sin, not because we are trying not to sin.
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