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Whose Side is God On?
http://www.creators.com/opinion/pat-buchanan.html ^ | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 04/05/2014 8:09:38 AM PDT by varmintman

"But the war to be waged with the West is not with rockets. It is a cultural, social, moral war where Russia's role, in Putin's words, is to "prevent movement backward and downward, into chaotic darkness and a return to a primitive state."

Would that be the "chaotic darkness" and "primitive state" of mankind, before the Light came into the world?

This writer was startled to read in the Jan-Feb. newsletter from the social conservative World Council of Families in Rockford, Ill., that, of the "ten best trends" in the world in 2013, number one was "Russia Emerges as Pro-Family Leader."

In 2013, the Kremlin imposed a ban on homosexual propaganda, a ban on abortion advertising, a ban on abortions after 12 weeks and a ban on sacrilegious insults to religious believers.

"While the other super-powers march to a pagan world-view," writes WCF's Allan Carlson, "Russia is defending Judeo-Christian values. During the Soviet era, Western communists flocked to Moscow. This year, World Congress of Families VII will be held in Moscow, Sept. 10-12."

Will Vladimir Putin give the keynote?

In the new ideological Cold War, whose side is God on now?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: christian; christianity; fakeconservative; nobutpatbuchananis; patbuchanan; pitchforkpat; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; varmintspam
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I can't speak for God. But if I make the mental exercise of trying to put myself in God's place, I can't think of a reason why I'd not be on Russia's and Putin's side as of 2014.
1 posted on 04/05/2014 8:09:38 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

The Almighty isn’t on any side. The question is, who is on God’s side?


2 posted on 04/05/2014 8:11:35 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: CatherineofAragon

You beat me to it. That is the most important thing. to be on HIS side.


3 posted on 04/05/2014 8:14:39 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: All

I’ve been waiting a long time to hear some politician with the power to do anything about it say the first word about defending Christians and Christianity in this world and, so far, the only taker is Vladimir Putin. In our own case, the United States is still demographically a Christian country but you’d never know it by observing our government.


4 posted on 04/05/2014 8:15:56 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

And why not? WE threw Him out of our schools, our courts, our holidays, our public square...


5 posted on 04/05/2014 8:16:39 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: varmintman

G-d does not like just weekend visits. He wants you 24/7


6 posted on 04/05/2014 8:17:54 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: Daveinyork

It sure is. :)


7 posted on 04/05/2014 8:18:46 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: CatherineofAragon

U R correct. People think God is on the United States side. He isn’t. I don’t think for one minute God gets goose pimples on His spine when the national anthem plays. God is on the side of those who BELIEVE in Him according to 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4, Death, Burial, and Resurrection. Those who BELIEVE on His Son. God does not side with America over Russia, or the NY Yankees over the Boston Red Sox. He will reward those who believe on His Son and condemn those who refuse the free offer of His eternal grace.


8 posted on 04/05/2014 8:22:33 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: varmintman

God has spoken clearly throughout the ages. Tyrants, Dictators, Murderers, EgoManics, Secular Humans who believe they are Gods to be worshipped and obeyed (Obama fits the bill perfectly) at all costs, have all met their master and true ruler of the world, at the end of the day.

A human being is born, lives a life and, dies at the Lord God, Almighty’s behest. Good, strong examples for “Obama” to take note of: Nero, Caligula, Mussolini, Hitler, Chavez, Stalin, etc. are now paying for their sins in eternity, under the control of our Lord & his only son, Jesus Christ!!!

I am all for diversity in thought, religion and life itself, until tyranny is imposed by men upon other men!!! End of story!!!


9 posted on 04/05/2014 8:24:16 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: varmintman

Leave it to Buchanan to decide that Putin, a man who stole $75 billion from the Russian people, is an epitome of the great leader of the Christian family. No doubt Putin’s pretty girlfriend helps to secure Pat’s vote., too, for Christian family man and leader of the year. And then, there is Putin’s corrupting of the Orthodox Russian Church and its leadership. His mistreatment of other Christian faiths has to add up as a positive since Pat’s always favored the bully. Naturally, the threats Putin’s behavior mean for the Poles would curry favor with Pat since Pat blamed the Poles for Hitler invading them in Sep 1939. Putin’s years serving the atheistic regime of the Soviets must count for plenty in Pat’s head. Putin served at least sixteen year’s in the KGB and reached the lofty rank of Colonel. Surely, God was on his side then. And now that Putin could end abortion at the stroke of a pen, well, let’s just say his family values is situational on that matter. Putin also helps those other great defender’s of the Christian family, the mad mullahs of Iran. All and all, Pat’s new hero fits well with Pat’s worldview.


10 posted on 04/05/2014 8:24:43 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Amen. Very well put....including your tagline.


11 posted on 04/05/2014 8:26:25 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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To: varmintman

I’ve pondered this a number of times already. Were a new Cold War dichotomy to arise, I can certainly no longer take for granted that America will be counted as the same positive, moral force as it has throughout its history. With America jumping headlong into embracing such deviancy as fag-marriage, and purging Christianity from everyday life, the whole dynamic is becoming different.


12 posted on 04/05/2014 8:26:35 AM PDT by greene66
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To: elhombrelibre

Your post is correct, but if it’s Hillary vs NJFatboy in Nov 2016 I’m still writing in Putin!


13 posted on 04/05/2014 8:26:54 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Exactly!

America is reaping the consequences of NOT being on God’s side!


14 posted on 04/05/2014 8:29:39 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: varmintman

I do not believe it’s as simple as God being for or against geopolitical nations. He raises up the wicked to do His work, just as he raises up the good to do His work. Scripture clearly teaches He’s on the side of His elect, those called according to His purpose, the true Israel of God, wherever they may be found.

“And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.” (Romans 8:28)


15 posted on 04/05/2014 8:29:45 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: varmintman

I am sick about what has happened to this once great country of mine. I view it as the direct consequence of abandoning the quidance of the Almighty.

The thought has entered my mind lately that there is nowhere to go to escape the decadence that seems to be taking over. Or is there.....? Exodus....?

It may well be that America will fall due to her own arrogance.


16 posted on 04/05/2014 8:29:53 AM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: varmintman

Why? Do conservatives feel the need to genuflect before Obama? Are you terrified of being called “racist?”

America is in moral decline. This is a fact. The signs are all around us.


17 posted on 04/05/2014 8:31:36 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: varmintman

The first tax in America was an “educational tax” in 1636 when Harvard University was founded to train clergy. Clergy were the first school teachers in America.
This law was later expanded and became known as “THE OLD DELUDER SATAN ACT” and the tax expanded to set up schools for all villages that 50 or more people to teach the children to read so they could learn to read the Bible and defeat the old deluder, Satan.
This worked pretty good for 300 years but then in this country we started throwing God, and prayer, and everything Christian out of our schools. We can now fairly ask...
How is that working out for us?
Mr Buchanan has a point.
Joshua when doing recon around Jericho ran into The Angel of the Lord. (a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus) and Joshua asked whose side He was on. The angel replied he was on the side of the Lord, and Joshua fell down and worshipped knowing he had an encounter with the Holy.
We need fresh encounters with the Holy One!
Freegards
LEX


18 posted on 04/05/2014 8:32:19 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: varmintman
Allan Carlson forgot the Judaeo-Christian value of using military snipers to pick off peaceful protestors exercising their right to assemble.

Oh wait . . .

19 posted on 04/05/2014 8:32:56 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: RetiredArmy

Amen to that! One has to use his/her brain and wonder how come the “former” commies turned the greatest defenders of the orthodox Christianity? The KGB very cleverly picked an issue - rampant homosexuality, that the Western elites have been ramming down the throats of the population, and have used it to declare that if a person is opposed to anything that Putler does, he is pro-homo, sorosoid, you can insert here any Kremlin talking point. The same argument that the left uses in this country. If you oppose Obama, you must be a racist.
I also am expecting Putler’s brigade on the FR start with the talking points any second now.


20 posted on 04/05/2014 8:35:17 AM PDT by 05 Mustang GT Rocks
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To: varmintman; CatherineofAragon; Daveinyork
God's on your side.

It's not about how much you love Him but how much He loves you.

He loved us while we were yet sinners and haters of God. God's love for us is demonstrated that Jesus was reconciling us to God and redeeming us on the cross at the exact time we were hating Him and nailing Him to the cross.

We love Him becasue He first loved us.

He has redeemed us from the law so it's no longer about how much we love God, but about how much He loves us. When we receive His love, sooner or later we can't help but love Him back. We are no longer the old, flawed covenant that demands, "YOU will". We are under the new covenant where God says, "I will" no longer remember your sins and iniquities becasue of Jesus' perfect sacrifice. It's not what we DO . It's what Jesus DID.

"God so loves the world..." (John 3:16).

21 posted on 04/05/2014 8:36:43 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: elhombrelibre

I do not believe for one second that Putin is a believer. His embrace of Christian values is purely political.


22 posted on 04/05/2014 8:38:19 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: null and void

I sure didn’t throw Him out, idiot progressives did, NOT GUILTY!


23 posted on 04/05/2014 8:43:20 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: elhombrelibre

I’ll still take Putin over Obama.


24 posted on 04/05/2014 8:44:02 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Louis Foxwell
I do not believe for one second that Putin is a believer. His embrace of Christian values is purely political.

So was the Emperor Constantine's embrace of Christianity. History can turn on very small pivots.

25 posted on 04/05/2014 8:44:05 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Amen God hates divorce and doesn’t cotton to killing and theft and adultery all of which Vlad does


26 posted on 04/05/2014 8:44:57 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: PapaNew

Well He has a funny way of showing it


27 posted on 04/05/2014 8:46:27 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

We. Not just you. All of us. He’s gone from our, that is to say the entire country’s, public life.

You didn’t put Him back, did you? Or did I miss that part?


28 posted on 04/05/2014 8:47:36 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: CatherineofAragon
The Almighty isn’t on any side. The question is, who is on God’s side?

Not America. Some Americans certainly, but not this country. We have become Sodom and are in need of a new Great Awakening!

29 posted on 04/05/2014 8:49:00 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: varmintman
Putin knows you've been waiting for someone to defend Christians. As Buchanan points out, he's tapping into a powerful force.
30 posted on 04/05/2014 8:49:44 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Russian oligarchs and others with tens of billions generally live on island redoubts. Whatever Putin might have in his bank accounts, he doesn't LIVE like somebody with 75B to spend, he's sticking it out with Russia and the Russian people. Or maybe it TAKES 75B to convince Soros and the Rothschildes that there would be a personal price to any sort of a crude effort to take him out or down, who knows...

In the case of Syria, Christianity and Christians would have no home in Syria were the people WE are supporting to take the place over. Syria is a big part of the original home of Christianity and Putin basically saved the situation.

The only question mark in the picture is Iran which may involve business which Russians figure they have to have to survive or at least did at one point, I don't really know. Russians were literally starving in 1999, and I doubt anybody was asking too many questions about whatever it took to bring that situation to an end.

As to Buchanan and Poles and how WW-II got started, Buchanan is right. The Poles had actually invaded all but one or two of their immediate neighbors in the 20s and 30s and thought they were going to make short work of Hitler and Germany and were basically living in a dream world.

31 posted on 04/05/2014 8:49:56 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: Louis Foxwell
I do not believe for one second that Putin is a believer. His embrace of Christian values is purely political.

You're free to believe what you want. I'm going to take him at his word. He is the ONLY world leader today giving any sort of Christian testimont at all. He is the only world leader standing againstthe moral rot that eating the soul of the West...the US included.

32 posted on 04/05/2014 8:52:25 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: elhombrelibre

I don’t think Buchanan is saying that. I think he’s saying Putin has figured out that there’s a powerful global group with no representation in any government.


33 posted on 04/05/2014 8:53:49 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Agree. It is the false prophet approach to lure in the vulnerable. He is as evil as the rest of the Soviet dictators have been.


34 posted on 04/05/2014 8:54:27 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: pgkdan

Sodom didn’t get awakened, it got put to sleep, like a rabid dog.


35 posted on 04/05/2014 8:55:07 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: null and void

I am working on it, I preach it and I practice it and I try to convince others there is a right and a wrong and theft, adultery, selfishness, is wrong and self sacrifice for one’s family is right. What are you doing?


36 posted on 04/05/2014 8:57:34 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: elhombrelibre
What is it with Buchanan? I know he's tends towards isolationism and that seems to skew his thinking about world events in general and Putin now. He seems to look for justification for the U.S. to pull back and withdraw to its own borders. But the U.S. (other than the Bush debacle) is not an aggressive nation. We don't look to conquer other sovereign nations. We're about PROTECTING free & sovereign nations from the aggressions of tyrants like Putin.

Part of the flawed thinking in Buchanan and others is the idea that God is mad at America. God isn't mad at anyone. God took out all His rage, anger, condemnation, and judgement on the whole world on the body of Jesus 2000 years ago. God loves the world (John 3:16) and is now in the business of reconciling the world to himself not imputing their their sins against them (2 Cor 5:19).

37 posted on 04/05/2014 8:57:44 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: yldstrk

I goad.


38 posted on 04/05/2014 8:58:17 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: null and void

not good enough, fail


39 posted on 04/05/2014 8:59:03 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Ah well, I’ve failed.


40 posted on 04/05/2014 8:59:28 AM PDT by null and void (I don't mind getting older, but I hate wearing out!)
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To: yldstrk

Look to Jesus to see how God shows his love for you.


41 posted on 04/05/2014 9:00:21 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
We don't look to conquer other sovereign nations. We're about PROTECTING free & sovereign nations from the aggressions of tyrants like Putin.

If this was true, then why is it that our "protection" of other nations always seems to involve the homosexualization of these nations and the establishment of a beach head for Planned Parenthood inside their governments?

42 posted on 04/05/2014 9:08:56 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Daveinyork

Didn’t Lincoln say something like that?


43 posted on 04/05/2014 9:10:01 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: PapaNew

Papanew, I don’t argue with anything you’ve said. But just as Joshua told the Israelites to choose whom they would serve, and as he stated that he and his house would serve the Lord, we all have a choice to make.


44 posted on 04/05/2014 9:13:23 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: G Larry; pgkdan

Agree with you both. I think God has turned the country over to its sin.


45 posted on 04/05/2014 9:16:36 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: varmintman
“Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right”

Abraham Lincoln

46 posted on 04/05/2014 9:20:24 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: pgkdan

Beware false prophets.


47 posted on 04/05/2014 9:20:49 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

I’m with you. Nevertheless, (Mark) 9:38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. 9:39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. (9:40) “He that is not against us is on our part.” Etc.

Surely, it’s not a bad thing that Putin’s “embracing Christianity” for any old reason. Ben Franklin did the same thing: not remotely religious himself, he gave to all religious charities (other than Catholic) because religion made folks easier to govern (hear that line anywhere else?).


48 posted on 04/05/2014 9:28:33 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: PapaNew

I refuse to believe that G-d and Hitler and Stalin were on the same side, unless you believe that HE wanted all the Jews to be exterminated.


49 posted on 04/05/2014 9:47:12 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Alberta's Child

Our influence, especially lately, is not always the best. But Bush’s deviation notwithstanding, America is not about conquering other nations. As the most powerful free country on earth, we have the duty IMO to stand as a sentinel for other free sovereign nations against aggressive tyrants. Buchanan doesn’t get that.


50 posted on 04/05/2014 10:20:07 AM PDT by PapaNew
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