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Gun advocates credit new concealed carry laws for sharp drop in Chicago murder rate
Washington Times ^ | April 5, 2014 | Phillip Swarts

Posted on 04/05/2014 10:51:22 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Chicago police are reporting that the murder rate for the first quarter of the year is the lowest it’s been in more than 50 years, which gun advocates are attributing to a concealed carry law passed in Illinois last year.

The first three months of 2014 have seen the fewest number of homicides since 1958 — six fewer than this time in 2013, and 55 fewer than this time in 2012, The Chicago Sun-Times reported.

Gun-rights advocates argue that concealed carry laws can reduce crime and keep the population safer. The state began accepting applications for permits in January.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; carry; chicago; concealed; murder
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To: chiller

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21 posted on 04/06/2014 5:17:53 AM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: Lockbar

That was the first thought I had as well. The law is too new to have had much of an effect. It will take a few criminals getting blown away in the act to get the attention of the criminal class in Chicago.


22 posted on 04/06/2014 5:30:48 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Texas Fossil; flaglady47
Just wait till the dreamy, steamy days (and nights) of summer.....

Leni

23 posted on 04/06/2014 5:38:38 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Our greatness - built upon our freedom - is moral not material)
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To: Texas Fossil

RIP Otis

Otis McDonald, the man whose name will be forever synonymous with Second Amendment activism for his victory over Chicago’s handgun ban, died today(Apr 4, 2014), according to his nephew, Dr. Frederick Jones, who spoke with this column. He was 80.

http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-otis-mcdonald-champion-of-supreme-court-victory-passes


24 posted on 04/06/2014 5:42:39 AM PDT by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Reduction is based primarily due to the harsh winter. Set the record straight and don’t baseline the truth artificially low... the Rats will latch onto a “spike” in murders and drumbeat this to the media and coerce some sort of action against legal gun owners.


25 posted on 04/06/2014 5:42:51 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Texas Fossil

If Chicago’s improved Police Training was the true cause of a drop in murder rates to levels of 54 years ago, these spectacular techniques and necessarily remarkably innovative techniques would be on the front page of every newspaper in the country!

Alas, they are not. Conversely, the radical drop in murder rates that is contemporaneous with the enactment of concealed carry laws should be on the front page of every newspaper. But alas, it is not.

The only conclusion is that liberals (and their media lapdogs) would rather see Americans murdered, than acknowledge that yet another of their agenda items is seriously flawed — and even dangerous to Americans.


26 posted on 04/06/2014 5:57:44 AM PDT by Ex-Pat in Mex
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To: Ex-Pat in Mex

I’ll continue to go with death as the operative cause for the decline.

That is, the drop in criminal activity is the result of the criminals murdering each other.


27 posted on 04/06/2014 6:00:22 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

Agree...


28 posted on 04/06/2014 6:10:35 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: tumblindice
These comments at the article are well worth the read...quite humorous

"Go back to strangling chickens for the Colonel, you're not a very good spammer for Obama," ...LOL

29 posted on 04/06/2014 6:21:03 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Texas Fossil
Mr. McCarthy also attributed the drop in violence to better police training and community programs to keep kids off the street

Sure. The crime rate is down because of the effectiveness of the police unions and midnight basketball, plus all of a sudden the thugs got their guns taken away by the oh-so-efficient cops.

Why should anybody expect anything but self-aggrandizement and lies from these Liberal politicians? Wait until the weather warms up. They had better plan to have their midnight basketball games down at the morgue. It will save them cartage fees.

30 posted on 04/06/2014 6:39:03 AM PDT by Gritty (For your psycho gunman, a military base is basically a grade-school in uniform-Mark Steyn)
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To: Texas Fossil

We were noticing the winter lull in shootings before anyone got approved, so that observation is valid. I got approved a few weeks ago, been carrying ever since then. Main thing is remembering where you are and what you can do. It’s an unduly complex law, and is certain to snare the less careful. There are still too many gun-free zones available to criminals, and there is still concerted effort, in Cook County particularly, to impede the free exercise of our 2A rights. Otis McDonald, a key legal pioneer of the modern 2A resurgence in Illinois, recently passed away. He would no doubt be proud of the legacy he has left to us, but it is just a beginning, and there is still much work to do.


31 posted on 04/06/2014 6:44:36 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Lockbar
I have no doubt that the first 3-4 uses of self defense concealed carry will be painted as “Racist-wild west actions” by Crook County authorities and the media.

Obama, Jesse Al, Rahm are already prepared with pre-written fill in the blank media talking points, victim video clips, and Trayvon Martin's mother plane ticket and speaking fee..

32 posted on 04/06/2014 6:51:55 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: freerepublicchat
Afterword I recalled that this person has firearm. I quickly changed my approach and moved towards some sort of reconciliation, deciding to simply try to tolerate all the headaches and stress.

So you just surrendered. A very liberal approach, and it worked well for Neville Chamberlain.

33 posted on 04/06/2014 7:11:50 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Thanks. I totally agree with your accessment.

I sympathize with your existence behind enemy lines. I am blessed, live in open country. Few people, friendly local law enforcement, old friends and fresh air.

That said, I plan to be in DC on May 16th. Feel compelled to be there.


34 posted on 04/06/2014 7:18:37 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Gritty

Yes, I can see the issue you made.

Cities have always been corrupt. Huge cities are generally the most corrupt.

Then there is Chicago, gangsta city.


35 posted on 04/06/2014 7:21:01 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Texas Fossil

It was the freezing temperatures. For weeks nobody could hang out long enough to get shot.


36 posted on 04/06/2014 7:28:35 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Lockbar
Cops: No charges for man with concealed carry permit who fired at armed male

After the shooting, police responded and determined that the man was shooting in self-defense. The man had a valid firearm owner's identification card, a valid concealed carry permit and police were able to determine that he had completed a required concealed carry class and was properly trained

It's already been tried and tested. Came out pretty good, too.

37 posted on 04/06/2014 7:33:19 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Texas Fossil
This is one of Chicago's west side neighborhoods over the weekend:

. A number of the partygoers appeared intoxicated, cursed at police, ran under the crime scene tape and shouted in general about poor police response. One woman was carried out by her limbs by officers, who set her down outside the crime scene tape. A number of the obscenities were directed at the race of the officers, who were primarily white. A black officer was singled out by a woman in the crowd for being on the wrong side

38 posted on 04/06/2014 7:40:03 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Well if cold temps make them less violent we might should make a deal with Obozo’s friend Putin and have them moved to Siberia.


39 posted on 04/06/2014 1:28:44 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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