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Chicago Murder Rate at Lowest Level in 50 Years after Concealed Carry
Frontpage Mag ^ | 04/06/2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 04/06/2014 5:22:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Even Chicago isn’t hopeless. Just its politicians.

In July of 2013, Illinois became the last state in the union to enact a concealed carry law. In January of this year, the state began accepting applications for permits. This week, Chicago police announced that the city’s first quarter murder rate was the lowest since 1958.

The first three months of the year saw 6 fewer murders than the same time frame in 2013–a 9 percent drop–and 55 fewer murders than 2012, according to a statement from Chicago Police.

There were 90 fewer shootings and 119 fewer shooting victims, drops of 26 and 29 percent respectively, according to police statistics.

Compared to the first quarter of 2012, there have been 222 fewer shootings and 292 fewer shooting victims. Overall crime is down 25 percent from last year, and police said more than 1,300 illegal guns were recovered in the last three months.

There’s no obvious explanation for the decline. Much of Chicago gun violence is gang driven. There’s no new administration or policy in place. And the economy isn’t exactly in great shape.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; chicago; concealedcarry; guns; illinois; murderrate

1 posted on 04/06/2014 5:22:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Also see this link:

http://weaselzippers.us/181810-concealed-carry-enacted-in-illinois-guess-what-happened-to-chicago-murder-rate-in-this-first-quarter/

Concealed Carry Enacted In Illinois, Guess What Happened To Chicago Murder Rate In This First Quarter?


2 posted on 04/06/2014 5:23:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (uestion)
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To: SeekAndFind

It was a hell of a winter.


3 posted on 04/06/2014 5:24:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bump


4 posted on 04/06/2014 5:26:17 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: cripplecreek

Concealed carry and the murder rate there are probably not connected. Most of the murders involve gang members taking out other gangs.

They can’t legally carry in the first place.

I think you hit on it, the cold weather kept people inside.


5 posted on 04/06/2014 5:27:19 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They went south for the winter...

http://www.wthr.com/story/25173951/2014/04/06/6-people-shot-overnight-in-marion-county

6 people shot overnight in Marion County (Indy)

INDIANAPOLIS -
A weekend of violence continued overnight across central Indiana. Police are investigating six people shot in three different incidents.


6 posted on 04/06/2014 5:29:51 PM PDT by digger48
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To: driftdiver

I don’t doubt that concealed carry will make a difference but it won’t happen overnight. Legal carry in Detroit is building and the murder rate is creeping down but its taking time.

Last year there were 10 defensive shooting in Detroit all year, there have been 15 already this year.


7 posted on 04/06/2014 5:35:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

For the Nth time since this story has been posted N times, the first CCW permits in IL arrived in owners hands less than a month ago...


8 posted on 04/06/2014 5:37:11 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes concealed carry works. It hasnt had time in Chicago and the murders there are mostly the inner city blacks killing each other over drugs and gang turf.


9 posted on 04/06/2014 5:38:21 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Be patient .. it’s barely April.


10 posted on 04/06/2014 5:39:33 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: cripplecreek
In the long run, open and unrestricted carry is the best policy. The murder rate in the "wild west" was lower than in Chicago or DC today.
11 posted on 04/06/2014 5:43:18 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: driftdiver

As I saw a cop on the Alaska State Troopers show say “We don’t discover a lot of our murders till spring”.


12 posted on 04/06/2014 5:45:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

It helps to have a sheriff on the same side as the people.


13 posted on 04/06/2014 5:46:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“I can’t breathe..!....I can’t feel my LEGS..!”

When a criminal gasps it, you should double-over in red-faced laughter. It’s cute and sexy.

Go ahead! LAUGH AS HE DIES...!!

^_^


14 posted on 04/06/2014 5:53:47 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: SeekAndFind
i tend to believe it was the cold winter since there prolly aren't enough new CCW permits on the streets to make that much of a difference, but time will tell... lets see if it stays low
15 posted on 04/06/2014 6:24:37 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: cripplecreek

Low crime was due to polar vortex... so now the baseline will be set artificially low by the left so any murdering in Chicago in subsequent quarters will be played up like a huge spike, which is will “only be reduced” by confiscation of firearms from the lawful.


16 posted on 04/06/2014 6:55:02 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind.

Indianapolis Murder Outbreak Double Number In Chicago
cbslocal.com | April 2, 2014 | John Dodge
Posted on 4/5/2014 2:51:34 PM by digger48
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3141209/posts


17 posted on 04/06/2014 7:04:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SeekAndFind
Two points come to mind.

One. The cold weather kept them home.

Two. Knowing the population they will make up for it.

18 posted on 04/06/2014 7:06:20 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: bigbob

Exactly. Way to soon to prove anything.


19 posted on 04/06/2014 7:12:27 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: bigbob
For the Nth time since this story has been posted N times, the first CCW permits in IL arrived in owners hands less than a month ago...

Of course you are right, but the point you are missing is the media hysteria over it has been non-stop for the last few months.

Now I don't expect the homies to actually read a newspaper, but the TV coverage has also been high and the sons of Obama probably think that every white man has a .44 magnum under his shirt. As long as they think this way the outcome will be fine.

20 posted on 04/06/2014 7:16:20 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: cripplecreek

The irony here is rich.

CPD has been cooking the books for the past two decades. Rahm and Superintendent McStreetlightAssassin somehow want to prove that the ‘doing more with less’ and ‘smart-policing’ dodges will actually work against the beast on the streets of Chicago. So crime stats magically go down.

This, now that CCW is available, and after the city had spent 100s of millions fighting it.

Sorry, to try to justify what you are doing now seems to make you look an absolute fool for what you did ten minutes ago. Law Enforcement in Chicago is Insane.


21 posted on 04/06/2014 7:25:00 PM PDT by bakeneko
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To: SeekAndFind

Crime went down in Florida after conceal carry... and the drop started within days. Maybe criminals read the papers...

Turned out criminals liked gun control almost as much as liberal elites liked it - and strangely enough - criminals back democrats.


22 posted on 04/06/2014 7:32:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (.'Dog Shit' could be sold to 7 million citizens if the IRS fined those who refused to buy it...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve lost count of the number of times this articles been posted over the weekend, and I’ve said it before, so here goes again.

I live in the Chicago area. I work in Chicago. We’ve just gone thru the coldest four months on record, and have had the third snowiest winter on record. Temperature wise,were still well below norms.

Every winter here the murder rate drops. The gang bangers don’t like the cold. The crime rate drop has more to do with the fact that we’ve had such a brutally cold winter.

When the temperature gets back above sixty degrees or so on a consistent basis, there will be a HUGE spike in the number of murders in Chicago. That’s what happens every year here.

Conceal carry has been here a few short months, it’s way too early to attribute anything to it.

I say this as a CCW holder living in the Chicago area and working in the city. Those of you who do not live here don’t know what you’re talking about.


23 posted on 04/06/2014 8:03:16 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

I anticipate there will be an increase in the coming months as the weather warms the sewers of Chicago and the street rats come up for fresh air.

Anyone know the statistics from this past weekend?


24 posted on 04/07/2014 4:50:47 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: cripplecreek

Coldest December-March in Chicago history

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/25145998/coldest-december-march-in-chicago-history

Climate change is a GOOD thing!


25 posted on 04/07/2014 10:31:24 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: hinckley buzzard

It was, but a lot of it had to do with the fact that we didn’t have all that many nuts in the West who figured, “hey, I need to kill a bunch of little boys and girls before blasting my mashed potatoes (a.k.a. my brain matter) out the other side of my head.” A lot of the actual “violent crime” involved holdups where a person held up someone else with a gun, and the person gave them the money, and the outlaw ran off with it. Most people figured letting the outlaw off was a better idea than risking really getting shot and killed. Putting up a full fight was also stupid because a whole populated town would open fire on you. We didn’t have quite the dense city populations that we have today, those are way different.


26 posted on 04/07/2014 11:10:53 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: digger48
Add in 9-shot-4-killed-during-violent-24-hour-span-across-indianapolis (MAR 31, 2014)

indianapolis-seven-slayings-in-eight-hours (FEB 21, 2014)

My adult hometown usually averages under 100 murders per year... and in just three nights in just the last 6 weeks, that's 22 shot and at least 10 dead. Not a good trend.

27 posted on 04/07/2014 11:36:26 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Progov
I anticipate there will be an increase in the coming months as the weather warms the sewers of Chicago and the street rats come up for fresh air.

As I said "happens every year as soon as the temperature stays above 60."

28 posted on 04/07/2014 5:16:45 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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