Skip to comments.IS GOD NOW ON RUSSIA'S SIDE
Posted on 04/06/2014 6:12:39 PM PDT by wonkowasright
In the new war of beliefs, Putin is saying, it is Russia that is on Gods side. The West is Gomorrah.
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When Pat Buchanan starts talking like this something has changed.
God is on Gods side. It is up to us to get right with him and not the other way around.
Interesting question. Can anyone honestly say that the US is on God’s side?
No, but Pat Buchanan is.
God isn’t on anyone’s “side”. The question is whether we are on God’s side.
Buchanan’s off on this one. He’s getting to sound like Ron Paul.
Sort of a repeat of the Cold War. I remember the USSR calling the west decadent, all the while it was committing mass murder. I wonder which God will approve of more?
God doesn’t pick nations. Nations come and go.
Great minds think alike, huh?
You are so right.
Already dealt with this on an earlier thread the other day. God isn’t mad at America. He’s not mad at anyone but that doesn’t preclude America standing up to this bully nor does it justify Putin’s aggression.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED
Was Lot a righteous man?
Buchanan is seeing it the way it is.
When you consider that our government is more like the KGB than Russia’s KGB, I think I’ll call you on the “Nothing has changed” call.
From God’s mouth to Putin’s ear. Riiiiiight.
Western leadership has for the most part rejected God. The question about Putin is whether he is hypocritical.
Call me out. Putin has no interest PERSONALLY with Jesus Christ. Call me out on that. We all KNOW obama has no personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
If I want Pat Buchanans opinion, I guess I should just ask YOU.
KGB psych ops
Crazy talk and rewriting history
I don’t know if God’s on Russia’s side, but I wouldn’t doubt He’s about to abandon ours (if He hasn’t already). Godlessness, atheism, abortion, homosexual marriage, slothfulness, Marxism, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc being forced on a nation top down by its government against the will of the people would be enough for anyone to abandon it.
Russia killed fifty million or so, under Stalin. If I have that right.
With birth control, abortifacients and abortion, we’re up to, with obstruction of conceptions, killing babies before theyre implanted and reported surgical and chemical abortions, at hundreds of millions, hundreds of millions and fifty three million, respectively.
That’s just the beginning of the story. The destruction of the family, romance, sexual identity, marriage is the beginning of the continuation of the story.
Either we pull our head out or we are certainly not going to get on God’s side. And no, we are not on God’s side. NO
I agree with Pat and if I had a gun to my head and I had to follow either the foreigner Putin or the foreigner Obama, I would follow PUTIN.
People scream about “Putin fan-boy” etc. etc. but they seldom make actual points.
Even people who aren’t strongly religious can easily see the USA is lead by a man who clearly detests Christianity.
He went to a whacko Black Supremacist church for, what?
We, individually and corporately are called upon to repent and believe. Has Russia repented? Or are their goals and aspirations the same as before?
Have the Russians changed? I have not heard of the tyrannous rule of the old USSR going on now. I do know Christianity is now permitted where once it was forbidden. I read that they are the only nation protecting the ancient Syrian Christian population, while the US steadfastly refuses. In fact the WH is talking about training and arming the Christian’s persecutors. And I wonder.
Is it still a communist country? Personally, I consider present day Russia to be my, and my country’s adversary.
A lot of strange things are going on in this world, and understanding it all is well above my pay grade.
As a nation "we" are embracing abortion, sodomy, adultery, blasphemy, disrespect of parents, covetousness, and theft. These things are embraced both in government policy and popular culture.
No, America is not on God's side. America has turned against God ... We are most desperately in need of repentance.
The question has never been whose side God is on....The question is, who is on God’s side?
God does not change his mind, men do.
God should be on Poland’s side, before Russia’s.
Poland is still by far the most Christian nation in Europe.
And yet he sinned. That was a pretty mickey mouse move on his part with the daughter (even if she had begged him to do it).
Salvation is by grace through faith and can not produce a perfect performance in this mortal coil.
What has Putin embraced of Christ? How has Putin yet sinned?
When God lets sinners sin, that doesn’t equate to His being on the sinners’ side.
The entire appeal of Pat Buchanan, in his day, was that he sounded much like Ron Paul... before Ron Paul sounded like Ron Paul. Just sayin’.
I won’t argue with that (and you’ll note that I said nothing of Russia) ... other than to say it’s not a matter of whether God is on America’s ... or Poland’s ... or Russia’s side, but whether any of them are on God’s side. I’m American ... I’m interested in whether or not America is on God’s side. At the moment, we’re not ... and we need desperately to change that.
Everybody is estranged from God in some manner, and nobody can boast.
The pertinent question is, who has embraced salvation.
The Great Commission wants everyone possible to be won to the Lord... yes even your bitterest human enemy.
God is on Gods side. It is up to us to get right with him and not the other way around.
That is a most cogent observation.
The official count from the last time I checked (about 10 years ago) is around 20 million under Stalin, 5 million under Lenin. But no doubt these are underestimates. Likely it’s double that. The manner in which they were killed is not pretty, either. Entrepreneurs, land owners, employers, were all labeled “Kulaks” by the state, and summarily deported. That doesn’t sound so bad until you realize where they were deported to. By order of Lenin, to the most inhospitable regions of Russia. Out in the wilderness, in other words, to be victims of starvation or the elements. Most of them, however, were just people that the Chekas didn’t like, and they didn’t like anyone. Many were cocaine addicts to desensitize themselves to the atrocities they were committing. So you have to add torture, forced starvation (lots and lots of it under Stalin), executions of strikers, burning of towns, burning of whole forests when the townspeople fled there, military crack downs, work camps (lots), and outright death camps. The Nazis actually used the Soviet camp system as a model for their own death camps.
Thank you. It was a while coming though before I understood it.
I don’t know who said it, but I could believe it, that we will be ruled by God, or we will be ruled by tyrants. God is the safer choice.
“God isnt on anyones side. The question is whether we are on Gods side.”
And the answer to that is NO!
For Russia, probably YES.
God isn’t on Russia’s side and America is in large part no longer on God’s side.
Your adversary *IS* your country!!!! Russia isn't taking your earnings, molesting your wife @ the airport, shooting your dog.
We are docile sheep. We're getting what we deserve.
Why is it we have such a short memory retention and can’t recall the debate the Democrat (in name only) party had at their convention about the mere mention or reference of and to God ?
Worse yet take the political opposition named Republican to task because its members fail to make use of it or even refuse to reference to it when comes to expose the (democrats and their) consistant lying ?
I agree to a point CC. We do need to be right with him, but we also need to pray for our countries. The most powerful weapon every Christian gets issued on the day they’re saved is a direct line to God, we need to use that weapon.
When we do pray, we need to remember we are approaching the most intelligent, most powerful, most awesome person in the world or the universe. I think a lot of modern prayer doesn’t hit the mark. We should pray like Jesus did.
I believe we can’t give up on our countries or our fellow man and believers. It’s up to us to fight, and God has already given us the tools.
Actually, God does change His mind. He was going to wipe out the Israelites on several occasions but Moses talked him out of it. He negotiated with Lot. Just a few examples.
God has truth on His side. Satan has The World on his side. God wins.
I read all the way to the climatic end of the book of His truth.
If, and I emphasize “if”, God had to choose a country, the US wouldn’t be it. He made a country, and He has to let His own people get knocked around to get their attention. He is not mocked.
Don’t confuse MERCY with changing his mind.
The two examples you mention are of God delaying judgement and show his mercy.
Malachi 3:6 declares, I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed. Similarly, James 1:17 tells us, Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. The meaning of Numbers 23:19 is clear: God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should change His mind. Does He speak and then not act? Does He promise and not fulfill? No, God does not change His mind. These verses assert that God is unchanging and unchangeable.
So, God does not change his mind like a man, however, he is willing to show Mercy, and patience, which SOME may incorrectly think He has changed His mind, and countenances sin, or so on....
I have often wondered if Obama is not God’s tool for rendering his judgment against us.
God is on the side of Israel and those nations which bless Israel.
Do not be fooled into thinking that Russia has Israel’s best interests at heart.
Also, do not assume that the US is still one which blesses Israel. The fact is that this nation is guilty of electing leaders who are clearly against Israel... so If Obama uses his power against God’s chosen, we as a nation will pay the penalty... as it was with Bush’s betrayal of Israel and the aftermath we know as Katrina.
Absolutely right. This country is coming under God’s judgement.
God is on the side of his Church, which is the true Israel, the people of God. Read the bible.