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IS GOD NOW ON RUSSIA'S SIDE
World Net Daily ^ | 4/3/2014 | PATRICK J. BUCHANAN

Posted on 04/06/2014 6:12:39 PM PDT by wonkowasright

In the new war of beliefs, Putin is saying, it is Russia that is on God’s side. The West is Gomorrah.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Russia
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FR won't let me post much of the article but its a good read.

When Pat Buchanan starts talking like this something has changed.

1 posted on 04/06/2014 6:12:39 PM PDT by wonkowasright
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To: wonkowasright

God is on Gods side. It is up to us to get right with him and not the other way around.

CC


2 posted on 04/06/2014 6:15:14 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: wonkowasright

Interesting question. Can anyone honestly say that the US is on God’s side?


3 posted on 04/06/2014 6:15:15 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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No, but Pat Buchanan is.


4 posted on 04/06/2014 6:15:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wonkowasright

God isn’t on anyone’s “side”. The question is whether we are on God’s side.


5 posted on 04/06/2014 6:15:36 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: wonkowasright

Buchanan’s off on this one. He’s getting to sound like Ron Paul.


6 posted on 04/06/2014 6:18:08 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: wonkowasright

Sort of a repeat of the Cold War. I remember the USSR calling the west decadent, all the while it was committing mass murder. I wonder which God will approve of more?


7 posted on 04/06/2014 6:18:29 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: wonkowasright

God doesn’t pick nations. Nations come and go.


8 posted on 04/06/2014 6:18:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: beethovenfan

Great minds think alike, huh?

CC


9 posted on 04/06/2014 6:19:08 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: beethovenfan
“God isn’t on anyone’s “side”. The question is whether we are on God’s side.”

You are so right.

10 posted on 04/06/2014 6:19:22 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: wonkowasright

Already dealt with this on an earlier thread the other day. God isn’t mad at America. He’s not mad at anyone but that doesn’t preclude America standing up to this bully nor does it justify Putin’s aggression.


11 posted on 04/06/2014 6:20:07 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: wonkowasright

Don’t think so, but under Obama and the Democrats, the USA is definitely spiraling down into Sodom and Gomorrah.


12 posted on 04/06/2014 6:20:24 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: wonkowasright

NOTHING HAS CHANGED


13 posted on 04/06/2014 6:20:52 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: wonkowasright

Was Lot a righteous man?


14 posted on 04/06/2014 6:21:53 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: beethovenfan
God isn’t on anyone’s “side”. The question is whether we are on God’s side.

Amen.

15 posted on 04/06/2014 6:23:05 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: wonkowasright

Buchanan is seeing it the way it is.


16 posted on 04/06/2014 6:23:12 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: bigheadfred

When you consider that our government is more like the KGB than Russia’s KGB, I think I’ll call you on the “Nothing has changed” call.


17 posted on 04/06/2014 6:23:56 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: wonkowasright

From God’s mouth to Putin’s ear. Riiiiiight.


18 posted on 04/06/2014 6:26:54 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: wonkowasright

Western leadership has for the most part rejected God. The question about Putin is whether he is hypocritical.


19 posted on 04/06/2014 6:30:16 PM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: blackdog

Call me out. Putin has no interest PERSONALLY with Jesus Christ. Call me out on that. We all KNOW obama has no personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

If I want Pat Buchanans opinion, I guess I should just ask YOU.


20 posted on 04/06/2014 6:31:11 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: wonkowasright

KGB psych ops
Crazy talk and rewriting history


21 posted on 04/06/2014 6:33:38 PM PDT by griswold3 ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8".)
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To: wonkowasright

I don’t know if God’s on Russia’s side, but I wouldn’t doubt He’s about to abandon ours (if He hasn’t already). Godlessness, atheism, abortion, homosexual marriage, slothfulness, Marxism, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc being forced on a nation top down by its government against the will of the people would be enough for anyone to abandon it.


22 posted on 04/06/2014 6:34:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Russia killed fifty million or so, under Stalin. If I have that right.

With birth control, abortifacients and abortion, we’re up to, with obstruction of conceptions, killing babies before theyre implanted and reported surgical and chemical abortions, at hundreds of millions, hundreds of millions and fifty three million, respectively.

That’s just the beginning of the story. The destruction of the family, romance, sexual identity, marriage is the beginning of the continuation of the story.

Either we pull our head out or we are certainly not going to get on God’s side. And no, we are not on God’s side. NO


23 posted on 04/06/2014 6:36:18 PM PDT by stanne
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To: wonkowasright

I agree with Pat and if I had a gun to my head and I had to follow either the foreigner Putin or the foreigner Obama, I would follow PUTIN.

People scream about “Putin fan-boy” etc. etc. but they seldom make actual points.

Even people who aren’t strongly religious can easily see the USA is lead by a man who clearly detests Christianity.

He went to a whacko Black Supremacist church for, what?

15 years?


24 posted on 04/06/2014 6:38:56 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: wonkowasright


25 posted on 04/06/2014 6:38:58 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: wonkowasright

We, individually and corporately are called upon to repent and believe. Has Russia repented? Or are their goals and aspirations the same as before?

Have the Russians changed? I have not heard of the tyrannous rule of the old USSR going on now. I do know Christianity is now permitted where once it was forbidden. I read that they are the only nation protecting the ancient Syrian Christian population, while the US steadfastly refuses. In fact the WH is talking about training and arming the Christian’s persecutors. And I wonder.

Is it still a communist country? Personally, I consider present day Russia to be my, and my country’s adversary.

A lot of strange things are going on in this world, and understanding it all is well above my pay grade.


26 posted on 04/06/2014 6:39:44 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: beethovenfan
God isn’t on anyone’s “side”. The question is whether we are on God’s side.

As a nation "we" are embracing abortion, sodomy, adultery, blasphemy, disrespect of parents, covetousness, and theft. These things are embraced both in government policy and popular culture.

No, America is not on God's side. America has turned against God ... We are most desperately in need of repentance.

27 posted on 04/06/2014 6:40:05 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: wonkowasright

The question has never been whose side God is on....The question is, who is on God’s side?

God does not change his mind, men do.


28 posted on 04/06/2014 6:40:55 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: NorthMountain

God should be on Poland’s side, before Russia’s.

Poland is still by far the most Christian nation in Europe.


29 posted on 04/06/2014 6:44:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

And yet he sinned. That was a pretty mickey mouse move on his part with the daughter (even if she had begged him to do it).

Salvation is by grace through faith and can not produce a perfect performance in this mortal coil.

What has Putin embraced of Christ? How has Putin yet sinned?

When God lets sinners sin, that doesn’t equate to His being on the sinners’ side.


30 posted on 04/06/2014 6:47:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: PapaNew

The entire appeal of Pat Buchanan, in his day, was that he sounded much like Ron Paul... before Ron Paul sounded like Ron Paul. Just sayin’.


31 posted on 04/06/2014 6:48:05 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: dfwgator

I won’t argue with that (and you’ll note that I said nothing of Russia) ... other than to say it’s not a matter of whether God is on America’s ... or Poland’s ... or Russia’s side, but whether any of them are on God’s side. I’m American ... I’m interested in whether or not America is on God’s side. At the moment, we’re not ... and we need desperately to change that.


32 posted on 04/06/2014 6:48:56 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: NorthMountain

Everybody is estranged from God in some manner, and nobody can boast.

The pertinent question is, who has embraced salvation.


33 posted on 04/06/2014 6:49:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: NorthMountain

The Great Commission wants everyone possible to be won to the Lord... yes even your bitterest human enemy.


34 posted on 04/06/2014 6:50:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

God is on Gods side. It is up to us to get right with him and not the other way around.

CC

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That is a most cogent observation.


35 posted on 04/06/2014 6:54:16 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: stanne

The official count from the last time I checked (about 10 years ago) is around 20 million under Stalin, 5 million under Lenin. But no doubt these are underestimates. Likely it’s double that. The manner in which they were killed is not pretty, either. Entrepreneurs, land owners, employers, were all labeled “Kulaks” by the state, and summarily deported. That doesn’t sound so bad until you realize where they were deported to. By order of Lenin, to the most inhospitable regions of Russia. Out in the wilderness, in other words, to be victims of starvation or the elements. Most of them, however, were just people that the Chekas didn’t like, and they didn’t like anyone. Many were cocaine addicts to desensitize themselves to the atrocities they were committing. So you have to add torture, forced starvation (lots and lots of it under Stalin), executions of strikers, burning of towns, burning of whole forests when the townspeople fled there, military crack downs, work camps (lots), and outright death camps. The Nazis actually used the Soviet camp system as a model for their own death camps.


36 posted on 04/06/2014 6:55:54 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Psalm 144

Thank you. It was a while coming though before I understood it.

CC


37 posted on 04/06/2014 6:57:07 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t know who said it, but I could believe it, that we will be ruled by God, or we will be ruled by tyrants. God is the safer choice.


38 posted on 04/06/2014 7:04:57 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: cloudmountain

“God isn’t on anyone’s “side”. The question is whether we are on God’s side.”

And the answer to that is NO!

For Russia, probably YES.


39 posted on 04/06/2014 7:08:05 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: wonkowasright

God isn’t on Russia’s side and America is in large part no longer on God’s side.


40 posted on 04/06/2014 7:11:24 PM PDT by fso301
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To: elpadre
Personally, I consider present day Russia to be my, and my country’s adversary.

Your adversary *IS* your country!!!! Russia isn't taking your earnings, molesting your wife @ the airport, shooting your dog.

We are docile sheep. We're getting what we deserve.

41 posted on 04/06/2014 7:15:11 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (On the wrong side of history.)
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To: wonkowasright; All

Why is it we have such a short memory retention and can’t recall the debate the Democrat (in name only) party had at their convention about the mere mention or reference of and to God ?

Worse yet take the political opposition named Republican to task because its members fail to make use of it or even refuse to reference to it when comes to expose the (democrats and their) consistant lying ?


42 posted on 04/06/2014 7:21:05 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

I agree to a point CC. We do need to be right with him, but we also need to pray for our countries. The most powerful weapon every Christian gets issued on the day they’re saved is a direct line to God, we need to use that weapon.

When we do pray, we need to remember we are approaching the most intelligent, most powerful, most awesome person in the world or the universe. I think a lot of modern prayer doesn’t hit the mark. We should pray like Jesus did.

I believe we can’t give up on our countries or our fellow man and believers. It’s up to us to fight, and God has already given us the tools.


43 posted on 04/06/2014 7:22:26 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: BereanBrain

Actually, God does change His mind. He was going to wipe out the Israelites on several occasions but Moses talked him out of it. He negotiated with Lot. Just a few examples.


44 posted on 04/06/2014 7:34:29 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: wonkowasright

God has truth on His side. Satan has The World on his side. God wins.

I read all the way to the climatic end of the book of His truth.

If, and I emphasize “if”, God had to choose a country, the US wouldn’t be it. He made a country, and He has to let His own people get knocked around to get their attention. He is not mocked.


45 posted on 04/06/2014 7:37:22 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Don’t confuse MERCY with changing his mind.

The two examples you mention are of God delaying judgement and show his mercy.

Malachi 3:6 declares, “I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.” Similarly, James 1:17 tells us, “Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.” The meaning of Numbers 23:19 is clear: “God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should change His mind. Does He speak and then not act? Does He promise and not fulfill?” No, God does not change His mind. These verses assert that God is unchanging and unchangeable.

So, God does not change his mind like a man, however, he is willing to show Mercy, and patience, which SOME may incorrectly think He has changed His mind, and countenances sin, or so on....


46 posted on 04/06/2014 7:50:11 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: Jim Robinson

I have often wondered if Obama is not God’s tool for rendering his judgment against us.


47 posted on 04/06/2014 7:53:42 PM PDT by PTBAA
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To: wonkowasright

God is on the side of Israel and those nations which bless Israel.

Do not be fooled into thinking that Russia has Israel’s best interests at heart.

Also, do not assume that the US is still one which blesses Israel. The fact is that this nation is guilty of electing leaders who are clearly against Israel... so If Obama uses his power against God’s chosen, we as a nation will pay the penalty... as it was with Bush’s betrayal of Israel and the aftermath we know as Katrina.


48 posted on 04/06/2014 7:54:49 PM PDT by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: NorthMountain

Absolutely right. This country is coming under God’s judgement.


49 posted on 04/06/2014 8:03:57 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Safrguns

God is on the side of his Church, which is the true Israel, the people of God. Read the bible.


50 posted on 04/06/2014 8:06:05 PM PDT by Romulus
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