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Thomas Friedman On Conservatives Questioning Global Warming:...Thatís Trotskyite Radicalismí
Newsbusters ^ | 4/7/2014 | Jeffrey Meyer

Posted on 04/07/2014 3:17:54 AM PDT by markomalley

“New York Times” columnist Thomas Friedman took a nasty swipe at conservatives over the subject of climate change on Sunday April 6. Friedman appeared alongside Heidi Cullen of Climate Central on Sunday’s CBS This Morning and proceeded to mock conservatives who question human-caused climate change.

Speaking to host Bob Schieffer, Friedman claimed that 97 percent of scientists believe in climate change and “conservatives are saying I’m going go to with the 3%. That’s not conservative, that’s Trotskyite radicalism.” [See video below.]

(video at link)

Friedman’s obnoxious comments came after Schieffer wondered, “In our politics now, everything breaks on these ideological lines. It just breaks. Is there such a break in the scientific community? How does the scientific community come down on this whole idea of climate change?”

The Times columnist then misleadingly argued: “Let me put it in personal terms. So your son or daughter has a disease and you go to 100 doctors. 97% of them, 97 of the hundred say this is the cause and this is the cure. And 3% say this is the cause and this is the cure. That is what it is on the climate science.”

Friedman is not the first person to use the misleading “97 percent of experts” claim, which has been refuted numerous times. Unfortunately, Schieffer failed to challenge Friedman for his attack on conservatives or for his use of an erroneous statistic. Instead, the CBS host allowed his guest to go on an extended monologue to push his climate change agenda unchallenged.

 

See relevant transcript below.

CBS

Face the Nation

April 6, 2014

10:50 a.m. Eastern

BOB SCHIEFFER: Tom, let me just ask you this question. In our politics now, everything breaks on these ideological lines. It just breaks. Is there such a break in the scientific community? How does the scientific community come down on this whole idea of climate change?

THOMAS FRIEDMAN: Let me put it in personal terms. So your son or daughter has a disease and you go to 100 doctors. 97% of them, 97 of the hundred say this is the cause and this is the cure. And 3% say this is the cause and this is the cure. That is what it is on the climate science. 97% of experts say this and 3% say that and conservatives are saying I’m going go to with the 3%. That’s not conservative, that’s Trotskyite radicalism. Okay? That you would go with the 3% and not the 97%. To pick up on something that Heidi said. I don't like to use the term global warming because that sounds so cuddly. To a Minnesota boy Bob that sounds like golf in February. I much prefer the term global weirding because that’s actually what happens. The hots get hotter, the wets get wetter, the dries get dryer and the more violent storms, for the reasons Heidi outlined, are most likely to become more severe and that is what he we saw in Syria. We saw a four-year drought, worst in Syria's modern history that preceded the revolution there and produced a million refugees that basically laid the predicate for that revolution



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bobschieffer; demagogicparty; globalwarminghoax; memebuilding; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; thomasfriedman
Full title: Thomas Friedman On Conservatives Questioning Global Warming: ‘That’s Not Conservatism, That’s Trotskyite Radicalism’
1 posted on 04/07/2014 3:17:54 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

So if my views are “Trotskyite” that must make Obama, the MSM & most of Academia “Stalinist”? I can see that!


2 posted on 04/07/2014 3:24:54 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: markomalley

So anthropogenic climate deniers now have to worry about warmists with pickaxes in their hands? Nonbelievers must be killed?


3 posted on 04/07/2014 3:27:24 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: markomalley
“Let me put it in personal terms. So your son or daughter has a disease and you go to 100 doctors. 97% of them, 97 of the hundred say this is the cause and this is the cure. And 3% say this is the cause and this is the cure. That is what it is on the climate science.”

I guess the one doctor who said:"it is just a phase, she'll come around" doesn't count.

With some diseases, you need no cure: let the climate run its course. If people look back far enough, they'll see this has happened before and we are just along for the ride.

4 posted on 04/07/2014 3:43:19 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: markomalley

FTA: Friedman claimed that 97 percent of scientists believe in climate change and...


83.7% of statistics are made up on the spot.


5 posted on 04/07/2014 3:56:21 AM PDT by Peet (The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal. - Aristotle)
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To: markomalley
"Friedman claimed that 97 percent of scientists believe in climate change"

That makes him an IDIOT right there.

The 97% comes from a static including but ~47 "scientists" cherry picked from some lame survey. Most respondents were dropped from the analysis.

"Misleading the public about consensus opinion regarding global warming, of course, is precisely what the Cook paper sought to accomplish. This is a tried and true ruse perfected by global warming alarmists. Global warming alarmists use their own biased, subjective judgment to misclassify published papers according to criteria that is largely irrelevant to the central issues in the global warming debate. Then, by carefully parsing the language of their survey questions and their published results, the alarmists encourage the media and fellow global warming alarmists to cite these biased, subjective, totally irrelevant surveys as conclusive evidence for the lie that nearly all scientists believe humans are creating a global warming crisis.

These biased, misleading, and totally irrelevant “surveys” form the best “evidence” global warming alarmists can muster in the global warming debate. And this truly shows how embarrassingly feeble their alarmist theory really is."

John Cook is known charlatan shill.

6 posted on 04/07/2014 4:00:38 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: markomalley
Here is his house: You would think he would at least lose the heated pool . . .
7 posted on 04/07/2014 4:15:41 AM PDT by Catphish
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To: Catphish

Thomas Friedman is such a hypocritical *ss.


8 posted on 04/07/2014 4:21:05 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Oppressors can tyranize only w/a standing army-enslaved press-disarmed populace)
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To: markomalley
So your son or daughter has a disease and you go to 100 doctors. 97% of them, 97 of the hundred say this is the cause and this is the cure. And 3% say this is the cause and this is the cure. That is what it is on the climate science.

And if your son or daughter has a rare disease that the majority of physicians have never seen, you probably want the specialist knowledge of those 3%.

The validity of science does not lie in how many scientists agree with a particular claim--rather, it lies in the evidence and the significance of the evidence.

I am a scientist, and I am highly skeptical of anthropogenic global warming claims. That is because I have seen no real experimental or observational validation of those claims. I have seen many papers that say "if global warming continues, we can expect to see ___", but that kind of speculation is not evidence of anything.

I have no idea who this Thomas Friedman is. He is probably no one important, who is almost definitely not a scientist.

9 posted on 04/07/2014 4:30:10 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

——I have seen no real experimental or observational validation of those claims-—

Amen

There is no cause actually shown


10 posted on 04/07/2014 4:32:55 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: markomalley

Good thing I don’t watch that drivel or read Friedman.


11 posted on 04/07/2014 4:39:12 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: markomalley
feh...
12 posted on 04/07/2014 4:48:16 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: markomalley

Really, I am a scientist, in geology, look at the rock record and prove it to me. I do not think 97 per cent agree.


13 posted on 04/07/2014 4:48:47 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: markomalley

So that makes the global warm-mongers Stalinists.


14 posted on 04/07/2014 4:58:34 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: CPT Clay

O never seen a man who has a record of being so wrong on everything have such credibility


15 posted on 04/07/2014 5:00:07 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: markomalley

The world renowned scientist wannna be, Thomas Friedman is using the 97% consensus canard to make a point.

Those same 97% scientist could not accurately predict the 24 hour weather, let alone 10 years from now.

Friedman and Cullen are carnival barker charlatans who should be shunned and laughed at.


16 posted on 04/07/2014 5:05:11 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: markomalley

Friedman always has been a leading Environmental Whacko. He’s part of that big environmental lobby that buys politicians. Together they represent the single biggest threat to the U.S Economy and National Security.


17 posted on 04/07/2014 5:13:50 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: markomalley
Friedman is a climatologist? I thought he was just a hack journalist. And when he gives up his mega-mansion with its humongous carbon footprint, I might start - might! - to give his alarmist shrieks some credence.
18 posted on 04/07/2014 5:19:38 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: markomalley
Friedman claimed that 97 percent of scientists believe in climate change

Anyone who uses that as an argument is not qualified to write about science.

Of course, it probably isn't true, but attacking the number (97% ? No, it's really 88% !) accepts the underlying premise.

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT "SCIENTISTS" "BELIEVE". Only the truth matters.

Most of those 97% have no qualifications to evaluate the methods OR the data. And, even if they did, the word "believe" gives the game away. What scientists may or may not "believe" is of no importance. The only thing they bring to the table is evidence, and the job of real scientists is to attack the evidence, and then to attack it again.

19 posted on 04/07/2014 5:20:04 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: markomalley

“We saw a four-year drought, worst in Syria’s modern history that preceded the revolution there and produced a million refugees that basically laid the predicate for that revolution”

Even for a warmist alarmist, this is a mind-boggling reach.

Friedman suffers from a Nostradamus complex.

But,hey, judging by his decadent mansion, it works for him ;)


20 posted on 04/07/2014 5:31:00 AM PDT by Walrus (I love the America that used to be ---I hate the America that now IS!)
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To: Tallguy

Labeling opponents “Trotskyite” is a Liberal Dog whistle calling for the hunting down and assassination of opponents.


21 posted on 04/07/2014 5:34:46 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: Peet

The more science you know, the less worried you are about climate

Thus, in a just-published US National Science Foundation-funded study, participants’ science knowledge and numeracy was tested and compared with levels of concern regarding climate change. The soft-studies profs were amazed, however, to find that as one moves up the scale of science knowledge and numeracy, people become more sceptical, not less.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/29/science_and_maths_knowledge_makes_you_sceptical/

Our goobermint’s answer to this will to be:

Deny grants, loans or scholarships for hard sciences students and increase those for journalism majors. (gotta have them to spread the BS from the “studies” put out by the race baiters ,”queer studies” majors, women’s studies students, and “environmental justice” majors.)


22 posted on 04/07/2014 5:39:02 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: markomalley
Thomas Friedman On Conservatives Questioning Global Warming: ‘That’s Not Conservatism, That’s Trotskyite Radicalism’

How ironic as Stalin (aka Democrat Party) had Trotsky assassinated.

23 posted on 04/07/2014 5:40:52 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: markomalley
Thomas Friedman is the same idiot who, when given the opportunity, didn't ask Hillary a single question about Benghazi. A true liberal "journalist" if there ever was one.
24 posted on 04/07/2014 5:43:58 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: markomalley

Thomas “Loopy” Friedman is a Stalinist. Trotskyite is one of the worst insults he can use.


25 posted on 04/07/2014 5:44:05 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Catphish

I’m guessing this is somewhere in the Washington, D.C. suburbs. Therefore, I assure you, all of his neighbors agree with his points of view.


26 posted on 04/07/2014 5:44:06 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: markomalley
97% say they have the cure and 3% take the opposite position and say they have the cure and all could be wrong!

What a BS technique. Once I would have expected better of SeeBS, but they are little better than an infomercial, which is where that technique should stay.

All they've got to sell is the fear they're using to get money, power and control, so they sell it with propaganda, made up statistics and the testimonies of fools, just like any other crappy product no sane person would buy.

Humans are good, bad and a few of us ugly, but no matter how much we think of ourselves, the Earth is bigger and badder and its climate has been in constant flux long before humans got here.

And now we want to take credit for it?

27 posted on 04/07/2014 5:44:36 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: markomalley

GW is Lysenko science, now known as junk science. It is science by dictate of political agenda which makes it nothing close to science.


28 posted on 04/07/2014 5:46:03 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: markomalley
They have to drive the Climate Change/Global Warming nail home to complete the Agenda 21 goal of the de-industralization and control of America. Just like high UN official, Maurice Strong stated was their responsibility back in ‘92 at The Earth Summit when Agenda 21 was introduced.
29 posted on 04/07/2014 6:08:44 AM PDT by Captain7seas
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To: markomalley

Friedman’s analogy is a whole pile of fail.

To be truthful, the “100 doctors” would consist of 90 that specialize in other fields than the one your child is ailed with.
All 97 that “agree” on a cause and course of treatment get paid if they attribute that cause and treatment,
and don’t get paid if they don’t.


30 posted on 04/07/2014 6:12:56 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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97% of scientists? Surely Freidman knows that they are agreeing with the political, not empirical science


31 posted on 04/07/2014 6:13:20 AM PDT by IncPen (When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
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To: markomalley
Thomas Friedman: Professional mouthpiece for every suicidal leftist agenda that ever greased his palm.

Doom on 'im.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

32 posted on 04/07/2014 6:13:51 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: markomalley

He just revealed his purposeful liberal ignorance by saying “the worst in Syria’s MODERN history”. So he clearly knows there have been previous serious droughts in the Middle East (duh, great job, genius, it’s a desert), yet this time - for sures! - it’s because of global, er, weirding. *sigh* Oh, just give him another Nobel, I think you can buy them off ebay now.


33 posted on 04/07/2014 6:37:43 AM PDT by MaggiesPitchfork
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To: markomalley

Remember history. Trotsky became so disgusted with Stalin’s excesses he left Russia, but he was hunted down by Stalin’s agents and murdered.


34 posted on 04/07/2014 7:14:57 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: markomalley

Show me the 97 percent of scientists. When an argument starts with a bogus premise, what follows is nonsense. Anthropogenic global warming is social science first and foremost, and the more socialist the scientists, the more adamant they are about man’s role in perpetuating the recent ice age thaw. Follow the money, and you will find the fuel of climate models, where the 97 percent of some percentage of all scientists hangout. And if you buy into it, the next question is, how much harm are you willing to do to mankind to save us from the inevitable.(?)


35 posted on 04/07/2014 7:42:31 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Hugin

Stalin killed Trotski and members of his family. I can only imagine what Stalin’s prodigy has in store for evil climate deniers.


36 posted on 04/07/2014 12:54:51 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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