Posted on 04/07/2014 11:27:10 PM PDT by Bratch
Via BuzzFeed, a vignette from the big Bushworld confab over the weekend to honor Bush 41. Imagine if the tea-party era in Republican politics, which began after eight years of Dubya and the nomination of John McCain, produced Mitt Romney and then Jeb Bush as presidential nominees.
Im treating the prospect of another Bush nomination as a test of whether the Republican grassroots, realistically, has any influence at all over who their party chooses. Say what you will about O but his win over Hillary six years ago proved that its still possible for the establishment favorite to be beaten in a Democratic primary. When was the last time that happened on our side? If a power complex exists within the party capable of elevating a guy to the nomination (a) who hasnt run a campaign in 12 years, (b) whos suspicious to the partys own base, and (c) whose surname is a heavy liability everywhere in the country except within that power complex, in what way does any sort of conservative activism at the national level at least matter?
We have a responsibility to make sure Jeb runs, said longtime Bush adviser Andy Card after the speech.
If Jeb Bush does not run, shame on us. Card added, I would work in a Jeb administration in a heartbeat.
Look at all of us, said another former campaign aide, Jill Collins, excitedly motioning to an auditorium filled with former ambassadors, appointees, and cabinet members. We are all ready to fundraise and start planting yard signs. We have all done it before and we will do it again.
Those of us who support [H.W. Bush] know that he was worthy of a second term, McGrath said. The Bush style of leadership needs to return to Washington.
If Mitt Romney had had the Jeb package, said tireless Romney 2012 surrogate John Sununu, we would have won in 2012. Even if Jeb doesnt run, though, or miraculously ends up getting beat in the primaries by a righty insurgent, how many former Bush advisors will end up as part of the eventual nominees campaign? It may be possible to avoid having another Bush on the ticket. Im not sure its possible to have a new Republican administration that keeps Bushworld out of the White House. Heres WaPo on the credentials caucus, the race among 2016 Republican hopefuls to recruit policy advisors before the primaries start hopping:
With the exception of some voices within the circle of libertarian-leaning Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), those being tapped hew to Republican norms on foreign policy, with emphasis on a vigorous military and a willingness to use force overseas
Former defense secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, known for his controversial decisions during the Iraq war, has been courted by several potential candidates and plans to meet with Cruz. Cruz has hired former Rumsfeld aide Victoria Coates as his national security adviser
Walker is doing more prep on global issues and has developed a bond with Washington Post columnist Marc A. Thiessen, a former George W. Bush speechwriter and a foreign policy hawk. In 2013, when Thiessen helped Walker write the governors memoir, they talked via Skype about many issues.
Actual quote: On foreign policy especially, the potential candidates are still learning. A frequent counselor is Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the GOPs 2008 nominee. Im guessing Cruz isnt one of them, although the fact that Cruz is hiring Rumsfeld alums means the Cruz/Paul contrast on foreign policy next year will be even sharper than we thought. Maybe thats Rands best play presenting himself as an alternative not just to Republican orthodoxy generally but to the Bush legacy specifically. Is that too risky in a Republican primary, though, even five years after the tea party emerged? The one virtue of a new Bush candidacy is that itd be a fascinating temperature check of GOPers about Dubyas legacy. Are they, after flirtations with libertarianism and isolationism, nonetheless prepared to offer Bush 3.0 to the country? Can the partys coalition survive that?
The one really obvious move Jeb could make to lighten some of the baggage hes carrying and present himself to voters as distinctly his own man would be to criticize the Iraq war, even to the point of saying that it never should have happened. I doubt hes willing to do it, though, and even if he was, hes on record as recently as last year as saying he thinks people will eventually stop seeing the war as a mistake. Rands been tiptoeing away from dads views for the past three years and people are still suspicious of his true intentions. Even if Jeb tried the same move vis-a-vis Dubyas foreign policy, how likely is it he could convince people at this point that hed be different? And even if he did, how excited would Bushworld be about him then?
After the stupidity that flowed from his mouth last week? No.
I think I need to hurl now.
Illegals committing “an act of love,” by violating US border is sure to sink Jeb Bush. Libs won’t vote for him and neither will conservatives. Welcome POTUS Hildebeast.
The Republican Establishment IS the Joke!
The nation’s appetite for flavorless Democan and Republicrat time-servers would seem to be boundless.
Actually, it's a series of magnitudes worse than that.
The best part of Jeb Bush rann down Barbara’s legs.
Well thank you so much for that image!
We have a responsibility to make sure Jeb runs”
In front of a rabid wombat preferably.
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Say what you will about O but his win over Hillary six years ago proved that its still possible for the establishment favorite to be beaten in a Democratic primary
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I don’t buy that. Hillary did not have 100% Dem Establishment approval. She had baggage, a gender gap with men, and polls showing that she was not likely to win over any of the likely GOPe candidates.
It appeared to me that a large number of their establishment decided to go with a potential winner (regardless of experience)instead of a sure loser. Then they proceeded on a successful propoganda campaign/illusion to turn a sow’s ear into a silk purse.
I am 100% in favor of Jeb running. Chris Christie too, also Romney should definitely run again. All three should totally give it another go. They are terrible people who will never get elected, but good candidates for conservatives since they will split the RINO vote. Ideally it will be Romney, Christie, Jeb, Rand Paul (not as bad as the others but still not great) all fighting each other. Against Cruz, without Huckabee, without Santorum to split evangelical vote. The opposite of 2012 where conservative infighting allowed RINO’s to unite and nominate Romney.
So yeah! Go Jeb!!
The murderer of Terri Schiavo.
His FIRST duty as a governor was to protect citizens of Florida from crime—murder above all.
With police and the National Guard at his disposal, he refused to rescue Terri Schiavo from her murderers.
He’s the American KIm Campbell.
No wonder the GOP establishment desperately wants him.
I won’t vote for him.
It never got to Barbara’s legs. GHW Bush was out behind a barn taking care of business. When he was finished he slung it against the wall and said “Be something.”
I voted for one Bush one time. I didn’t vote for the old man. And I only voted for Jr. once. I sure as hell won’t vote for Jeb.
I voted for McCain. I voted for Romney. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I was stupid in 2008 and 2012. I won’t be insane in 2016.
I almost hurled just now.
Dubya should never have been President. The game plan drawn up in 1992 was for Jeb to win the Florida governorship in 1994, and serve a full term, before being nominated for the Presidency in 2000. But Dubya won his election in Texas, and had a full term under his belt, while Jeb was only in the second year of his first term, as Jeb had lost to Lawton Chiles in 1994, by a very narrow margin (considering this was Florida, probably an honest count would have tipped the election to Jeb).
Jeb is WAY smarter than Dubya, and a whole lot more serious. Not to say Dubya is not himself quite intelligent, just that Jeb is both quicker and more composed in his thinking.
But the moment has passed. The opportunity that existed in 2000 no longer applies, and the demographics have simply moved on beyond any stepping back in time.
On a further note, Mitt Romney is no doubt a very good man, in all respects just the kind of person who is what is known as “pillar of the community”, circumspect and devoted to family, and a highly successful businessman to boot. And all this in spite of the whispering campaign run against him by a “fellow” Mormon, Harry Reid. But he is no conservative, and in fact, in the instance of Obamacare, elsewhere known as the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010”, Romney’s instincts, and those of Jeb Bush’s, would be to mend it, not end it.
Obamacare is a bigger disaster for the nation as a whole than even the adoption of the 18th Amendment, which introduced Prohibition as a national policy. And even though Prohibition was once “the law of the land”, it WAS repealed, a fact that seems to be lost on many who consider themselves to “moderates”, occupying some mushy-headed position they consider to be “the middle”. Some things, you just cannot split the difference on, and a compulsory national health services delivery program is one of them.
Whether Romney or Jeb Bush, were either to be the nominee, should manage to be elected or not, the conservative base would not be served in any case. Because whoever the Democrats put up (and Herself, Madame Benghazi, the Cold & Joyless, is no sure bet at this point), would be adamant about not changing Obamacare except by executive fiat, being unwilling to submit the current law to ANY legislative review, further skewing the unconstitutional nature of how that law is now administered.
Policy is a much different thing than the law. We still have the mechanism in place for registering with the military draft (Selective Service), and there are certain penalties for failure to register, but no fines or prison time is involved. The draft itself is NOT active, as a matter of policy, though the law still exists.
In a parallel way, the participation in some kind of comprehensive medical coverage plan could be put on a voluntary basis, with only limited care available to those who do not participate in the active enrollment, as now exists for emergency room access. Sure, that places some burden upon the locality that sustains the emergency room facilities, but for far less than the costs imposed upon the US Treasury and the current and existing participants in insured coverage under Obamacare. This cost to the local emergency rooms could then be addressed separately, and accorded equitable treatment of reimbursement.
We voters have a responsibility to make sure he does not win.
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