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Russia warns of civil war if Ukraine uses force to quell eastern revolts
CNN ^ | April 8, 2014 | Laura Smith-Spark, Marie-Louise Gumuchian and Victoria Butenko

Posted on 04/08/2014 10:45:19 AM PDT by McGruff

Russia warned Tuesday that any use of force in Ukraine's eastern region could lead to civil war, as Kiev seeks to regain control after pro-Moscow uprisings in three cities.

Pro-Russian protesters seized government buildings in the three cities of Donetsk, Luhansk and Kharkiv on Sunday. Rebels occupying Donetsk's regional government building Monday declared a "people's republic" and called for a referendum on secession from Ukraine to be held by May 11.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: donetsk; kharkiv; luhansk; putinisanazi; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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To: 1rudeboy

The ironic thing is that many of the Freeper Putin supporters probably had family that fled from the Soviets.


21 posted on 04/08/2014 11:12:07 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: McGruff

Contrary to what Russian media claims, the protesters were peaceful until that goon president started torturing and shooting them.


22 posted on 04/08/2014 11:12:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff

Putin can only fool the gullible; he’s like Obama in that regard.


23 posted on 04/08/2014 11:12:42 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: fwdude
The Western Ukrainians were Occuparasites on steroids.

But I thought they were Nazis?

24 posted on 04/08/2014 11:14:00 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

That’s correct. The anti-Soroists actually project Putin practices onto him and pretend he has an army poised to invade an independent country.


25 posted on 04/08/2014 11:15:16 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: fwdude

So far it looks like the sniping that killed some of the protestors was the work of professionals. If I had seen bodies hanging from trees. I might be more willing to agree with you. When $35 to $45 billion goes missing I think the people had the right to get a little uppity.

Russia is trying to destabilize a country with people that want the basic freedoms they sees in other European countries. Russia can’t allow that.


26 posted on 04/08/2014 11:15:36 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: meatloaf

C’mon, now. The peaceful, benevolent police was beset by the “Occuparasites” for no reason. They were only minding their own business.


27 posted on 04/08/2014 11:18:06 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Ukraine Gave Up Nuclear Arms in 1994 Deal Russia Flouts
28 posted on 04/08/2014 11:19:23 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: meatloaf

Well said. But the FReeper Putinista army insist anyone in Ukraine wanting freedom must be Gay. Therefore, Putin, God’s avenger, must punish them. It’s like we’ve suddenly got the Westboro Baptist Church on FReeRepublic explaining why an avenging tyrant is doing God’s work in destroying a weak neighboring nation, former KGB Colonels being such good Christians, don’t ya know.


29 posted on 04/08/2014 11:23:03 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: McGruff
The problem children in Kharkiv have been removed. http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fglavnoe.ua%2Fnews%2Fn172424
30 posted on 04/08/2014 11:23:59 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: McGruff

31 posted on 04/08/2014 11:26:12 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: McGruff

Well that’s excellent advice...We’re going to take over your Country town by town and if you object, you’re responsible for the consequences...


32 posted on 04/08/2014 11:31:57 AM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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John Kerry: I May Fail
33 posted on 04/08/2014 11:36:24 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: DesertRhino
...socialist nationalist party, give Nazi salutes, adopt the Wolfsangel emblem of the 2nd SS division as their emblem, and have torchlight parades carrying the portrait of Bandera.
Where do you find all this crap?.. Don't bother answering, it was a rhetorical question.
34 posted on 04/08/2014 12:19:32 PM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: elhombrelibre; meatloaf

I’ve noticed the FReeper Division of the Red Army marching about on FR since this thing started, too. What strikes me is that these are not new members but instead show sign-up dates as far back as 1998.

In reading their collective posts that denounce the actual Ukrainians (as opposed to Russian colonists living in Ukraine) for overthrowing a corrupt and murderous government I am left to wonder how they’d react if Obama came after FReepers or Tea Partiers in the same way? Would they oppose an overthrow of a violent and corrupt Obama regime? Do they oppose the language in our Declaration of Independence that speaks to the right of people to replace corrupt and tyrannical governments with governments more responsive to the people?

In short, I am often left wondering why some of these people are FReepers when they champion authoritarian statism?

How does that quote go? Oh, yes...

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”


35 posted on 04/08/2014 12:28:09 PM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: KC_Lion

Did I see this on Dynasty season 5 FINALE

LOL!

Just a thought I had

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7KOvzLSFKI


36 posted on 04/08/2014 12:31:45 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: MeganC

I keep thinking the same thing. Are they that enamored of Putin, these Putinistas, that they’re confused about what he stands for? Yes, I know he’s not Obama. But we all disagree with Obama’s policies and actions. Putin is an autocrat and a phony Christian. Do these “FReepers” really favor the law of the jungle as determined by a former KGB Colonel? I think so.


37 posted on 04/08/2014 12:31:52 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: meatloaf

“Russia is trying to destabilize a country with people that want the basic freedoms they sees in other European countries.”

That statement simply ignores everything that happened before the government fell.

Putin is reacting to events handed to him on a silver platter by Obama and the OS NGO’s.
When your enemy is making a mistake, you let him, then move in to collect the pieces you want. That is what is happening here.


38 posted on 04/08/2014 12:38:06 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: DesertRhino

“It really would help them avoid the Nazi label if they didn’t form as the socialist nationalist party, give Nazi salutes, adopt the Wolfsangel emblem of the 2nd SS division as their emblem, and have torchlight parades carrying the portrait of Bandera.

Just sayin’”

Don’t expect any response to that. It’s too inconvenient a truth.


39 posted on 04/08/2014 12:39:13 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf

The government didn’t fall! The crooks literally bailed out and left the country after the sniper attacks on the demonstrators. None of government higher ups were taken into custody. One day they were there. The next day they were gone. It’s hard to over throw someone who isn’t there.

I won’t call you a Putin apologist, but you have gone for the Russian propaganda hook, line and sinker.


40 posted on 04/08/2014 2:28:00 PM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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