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US wants to destroy Ukrainian ‘bridge’ between EU and Russia – German intellectuals support Putin
Russia Today ^ | 04-09-2014 | Staff

Posted on 04/09/2014 11:29:53 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016

Members of German civil society have written an open letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin, condemning Russophobia in mass media and German political establishment while showing support for Moscow's actions in the ongoing Ukrainian crisis.

Retired German Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Jochen Scholz wrote an open letter to the Russian leader in response to the speech Putin made on March 18, 2014 at the reunification of Crimea with Russia. The letter was cosigned by hundreds of Germans including lawyers, journalists, doctors, servicemen, scholars, scientists, diplomats and historians.

In that letter the German intellectuals said that Putin’s speech “appealed directly to the German people” and deserved a “positive response that corresponds to the true feelings of Germans.”

The letter acknowledges that the Soviet Union indeed played a decisive role in the liberation of Europe from Nazi Germany and supported the reunification of Germany and its ascension into NATO after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact.

Then US President George Bush Sr. had given assurances to Russia that NATO will not expand eastward, and yet despite Moscow's show of trust, the US and its allies violated that commitment, Scholz says.

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: agitprop; germany; ibtz; keywordspammers; paulbearers; pravda; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; russiatoday; surrendermonkeys; ukraine
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To: elhombrelibre; caww; Travis McGee; Kartographer; Jim Noble; kabar
You really need to come up with a different schtick. If you can't figure out a more effective way to persuade the American people to follow the federal government into another foreign war, and my portfolio begins to suffer, then you and your team of incompetents should be sacked. And good luck finding another job after the way you've botched this Ukraine (and Syria before it) deal so badly.

Here's a suggestion, how about attempting a concern approach, or even an appeal to authority? You know, such as: as a leading power, the US has global responsibilities, or, we need to allow the adults in the room to make critical decisions, or even, the republican system is dependent on enabling our "leaders" to act in the best interest of the public. I'm sure you get the idea; now get cracking!

As for your last pathetic attempt, perhaps I can provide a little constructive criticism so that you may perhaps be more effective in future posts.

You remind me of the bozos who years ago said there was no difference between the US and the USSR. Or the ones who said there was no difference between authoritarian regimes and totalitarian ones.

The old us-them dichotomy is pretty shop worn. Especially since even the slowest mouth breathers realize the US no longer even pretends to follow any form of rule-of-law. You know, like (non) border protection, EO amendments to ACA, fast-n-furious, family destruction, IRS, NSA, etc, etc.

Critical thinking means we recognize differences. Moral equivalence or saying everything is the same is just intellectually lazy.

OK, so once you've established the set-up in the us-them quadrant, you resort to the very tired association of positive attributes, such as superior thinking ability and morality, with your assertion as to which nation is the best without any foundation as to that claim. See short list of current Constitutional violations above that comprises this validity.

If you want to believe that one power or another controls the media, then buy into the conspiracy. That’s for you, not smart people. Believe that FOX News is the same as CBS because Obama controls them, in your mind.

Well, what can I say, other than you missed a whole string of pejorative expressions, such as unfounded allegations, wild assertions, fanciful thinking, paranoid delusions, projecting from weakness, etc, etc. And really, smart people=don't buy into conspiracy allegation? LOL. Sh!t, why not "Arbeit Macht Frei"? Obsolete, tired and used up.

Like I said above, you really need to re-work your act. It needs to be both more focused and more sophisticated. Perhaps you could arrange to have a poor gassed Syrian couple on Dancing with Stars? Or some recently dispossessed Nazi oops, Ukrainian, on 'Survivor - Russia'? With a tie-in to FB and Twitter feeds, you could monitor the sentiment of those jumping the line to send their kids off to another overseas war. Jeez, you could get really smarmy and claim it's "for the children".

The bottom line is, we live in a results oriented society, and you simply are not cutting the mustard. If my MIC derived dividend checks start suffering due to your pathetic incompetence, my Representative is going to be hearing from me.

41 posted on 04/09/2014 1:52:29 PM PDT by semantic
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To: noinfringers2

Interesting..and great seeing history posted from the position of revenue powers.

‘Follow the money’ has been a buzz word for sometime, but there certainly is much truth to that, both Historically and today. Some things don’t change...just the faces.


42 posted on 04/09/2014 1:53:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
I lived in Ann Arbor during the Reagan era. I know their routine. It hasn't changed. And again, I don't need to read current commie propaganda on RT or MSNBC to form my opinion of it for what it is.

Furthermore, when someone observes that RT is propaganda, and the response is "but MSNBC," it shows more intellectual vapidity than objectivity. In other words, "I read it all" is not an excuse for parroting one line over another.

43 posted on 04/09/2014 1:58:16 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Sacajaweau

Is that true?


44 posted on 04/09/2014 1:58:39 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: semantic
Like I said above, you really need to re-work your act. It needs to be both more focused and more sophisticated.

Maybe you could send him a subscription to RT?

45 posted on 04/09/2014 1:59:57 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: semantic

I could kiss you! (trust you’re a guy?) That was wonderfully superb!


46 posted on 04/09/2014 2:03:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: 1rudeboy

Russia Today is the only neutral, balanced journalism in the world today.


47 posted on 04/09/2014 2:04:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz
What I find striking is that someone can post an article from MSNBC detailing its bias (one of the founding principles of this website in the first place) and no one has a problem with it but for the trolls.

Point out that RT is biased, and you become the problem . . . and start hearing for the need to "read everything."

48 posted on 04/09/2014 2:07:17 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Oh I think we can be selective over what we read or hear from the media and can still form an opinion be it biased or not.

I do think much of media ,though, is equally propaganda/biased in regards to who the owners of that media are...some events and news worthy articles will never be reported nor discussed among the pundits......other’s will run an event long after it’s dead news just to keep people engaged...while current news of significance is ignored.

Bottom line..profit and ownership of media makes it tick..and formulates public’s perspectives. If that were not so politicians wouldn’t spend billions on advertising in election cycles, with those who support and finance them...then shuffle the revenues throughout these conglomerates to whatever cause here and abroad they desire.


49 posted on 04/09/2014 2:12:50 PM PDT by caww
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To: 1rudeboy
Yes, but I am not wearing underpants.

So where do we go from here?

50 posted on 04/09/2014 2:24:53 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

For you, I’d suggest Wal-Mart or Target. Underpants are important.


51 posted on 04/09/2014 2:26:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: elhombrelibre
What does that have to do with the facts presented?

Do you agree with RT? if not why not?

52 posted on 04/09/2014 2:30:37 PM PDT by duckln
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To: duckln

Do you agree with RT? if not why not?
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Is there any particular reason why I should be lend credence to a media company that is literally owned by the Russian government? Is the fact that RT is owned by the Russian government a reason why I should tend to believe what it reports? Is there reason to believe that RT publishes anything that would not meet with the approval of Putin? I think these are the proper questions to ask.


53 posted on 04/09/2014 2:45:17 PM PDT by Agog
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To: 1rudeboy
I cannot wear underpants.

If I do, the underpants gnomes will get me.

54 posted on 04/09/2014 2:51:46 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: noinfringers2

Good points.

Readers should keep in mind, and very carefully note, the Bible verse regarding money and the “root of all evil”:

Timothy 6:10 “For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”

It is the LOVE of money that the Bible tells us is the root of all evil; not the money itself.

Note the 10th commandment, to not be covetous. The Exodus reference:

Exodus 20:17 “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.”

We are commanded to not covet that which is not ours.

Many folks don’t want to be branded as “conspiracy wackos”, so they tend to not want to dig for information about the history of international banking. One has to understand the basic strategies, i.e., debt, taxes, etc., first, and ignore the aliens, racist stuff, etc., which is all mixed in there to make references to Rockefellers and Rothshchilds seem foolish.

What’s impossible to dispute is things like annual balance sheets from the East India Company, copies of Herbert Hoover’s personal correspondance, etc.; source documents and first-rate primary research, like that of Antony Sutton. As far as things rumored or generally held to be true, but not officially attested to by all parties, like Zaharoff pimping his own wife to Lloyd George, one can only guess as to their veracity - but after centuries of similar patterns... it doesn’t take much to predict that the sun will rise in the morning.

Precious metals are the fallback for international banking’s hold on governments, since the bankers can not let governments act on the idea of them creating their own money. If governments create their own money - they don’t need to borrow from the bankers.

So the bankers have the “conservatives” and “libertarians” support the idea that paper money is “worthless” unless it is “backed” by a precious metal, which means that all new government-created money would be spent buying gold from the bankers to “back” it. This would keep the full burden of debt repayment on the taxpayer/slave - and cause the market price of gold to skyrocket.


55 posted on 04/09/2014 3:18:50 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PaulCruz2016

Many German intellectuals, like the former Chancellor and Foreign Minister, are probably on Russia’s payroll.


56 posted on 04/09/2014 3:45:45 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: pierrem15; All

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled US wants to destroy Ukrainian ‘bridge’ between EU and Russia – German intellectuals support Putin, pierrem15 wrote:
Many German intellectuals, like the former Chancellor and Foreign Minister, are probably on Russia’s payroll.

Good point. More importantly are holders of Russian oil stock.


57 posted on 04/09/2014 4:36:10 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: duckln

Putin better stay away from grassy knolls.


58 posted on 04/09/2014 8:46:02 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: semantic
"And good luck finding another job after the way you've botched this Ukraine (and Syria before it) deal so badly."

What are you talking about? I don't see anything in my job description about Ukraine or Syria.

Your diatribe reads like some strange stream of consciousness. You want to impress but you're just confusing. Try writing short factual statements.

Beyond that if you prefer Russia to the USA, that's fine. There were plenty of Americans who preferred the USSR, too. You could go live there, like Snowden did.

59 posted on 04/09/2014 10:10:41 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: duckln

The whole purpose of the Russian media today is to serve the interest of Putin, probably the richest man in the world. I’m opposed to autocracy, and the lame remake of the USSR hasn’t fooled me with it’s pseudo conservatism.


60 posted on 04/09/2014 10:16:31 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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