Posted on 04/10/2014 11:32:07 AM PDT by xzins
They make good money considering the job; for many it was a sought-after career. Over the past few years I’ve noticed a number of “protected minorities” doing it (while chatting on their cell phones, holding up the lines); I wouldn’t enjoy the work atmosphere with that BS...
Utter lunacy. Like claiming out astronauts planted a flag on Mars or that Guam might tip over...
I live in Las Vegas and will drive out to Bunkerville or the Bundy ranch Friday about 8:00AM. I’ve got room for three more. Any Las Vegas Freepers interested in going?
Its not his land. His cattle are grazing on federal land.
At the end of the Mexican-American War in 1848, Mexico and the U.S. signed the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo which granted title to that land to the U.S., for which the U.S. paid Mexico $15 million.
Sixteen years later in 1864, Nevada became a state. A provision of the Nevada Statehood Act of 1864 promised that Nevada would disclaim all rights to the unappropriated public lands lying within its boundaries, and that such land would remain at the sole disposition of the United States.
Cliven Bundy has no legal right to graze his cattle on federal land without permission. When he stopped paying grazing fees, the federal government sold his grazing rights to the Clark County Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan.
In short, the U.S. bought and paid for that land. It owns it. It makes the rules on it. Article 1 section 8 of the Constitution specifically enumerates Congress the EXCLUSIVE legislative authority in all cases whatsoever. State law does not apply. County law does not apply. Cattle Barron law does not apply. Open range law does not apply. The ONLY law that does apply is US Federal law.
Art 1 Sec 8, 17th enumerated power;
17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings
As an Ohio freeper, even if I started driving this minute and went nonstop without sleep, at 8 am Friday, I’d only be entering Oklahoma.
I wish Mark Levin would broadcast from the ranch....
Read the daughter’s letter.
I’ve seen your post on about 4 or 5 threads now. Lot’s of folks simply don’t agree with you. Apparently, the governor of the state of Nevada, a former federal judge, isn’t buying the government line.
That’s right. Anybody who would think this could be about fracking instead of about turtles is obviously somebody who thinks the moon landing was faked, because turtles and the moon always go hand in hand.
Batsh!t crazy talk, all of it! Anybody suggesting such a crazy, conspiratorial thing should be tested to see if they float like a duck and if they do.... it’s a witch!
Another case where the government is doing more harm than good. The case for ‘over grazing’ is dead wrong.
The worlds leading expert on desertification has come out and said that the belief the over grazing leads to desertification is backwords, it’s actually large herd grazing that stays off desertification, and can actually reverse it.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-livestock-grazing-stop-desertification/
Agreed. About all I have left to add is fnord...
I have read the daughters letter and her attempt to use emotional language to inflame the passions of conservatives is beyond the pale. The fact remains that the land belongs to the US Government. The Government gets the same rights of determining how that land is used. Just as Bundy gets to determine how his 150 acres that he OWNs, is used.
The cows and the tortoises have lived in harmony together long before the government stuck their noses in all of this, I’d imagine.
If the “rustlers” are bosses are reading the right sites, they will see that this may happen. Lots of willing people. Intellect and coolness has to be priority.
Who was selling permanent grazing rights to federal land in 1887, and doesn't that statement contradict Cliven Bundy's public statements and filed legal claims that the property belongs to the citizens of the State of Nevada?
Is there a legal document, which would be handy, given that Nevada is a 'color of title' state?
If the great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887, how does that address Cliven Bundy's grazing of cattle in the BLM's Gold Butte area, and the National Park Service's Lake Mead Recreational Area, as well as the Bunkerville allotmen area? When Bundy quit paying grazing fees in 1993, he was grazing cattle only on the Bunkerville allotment.
Exactly. I keep looking for the “vast national parks” and “vast government land holdings” section of the constitution, and I keep running into the first amendment before I find the “vast holdings” clause.
I’m glad there’s somebody else on this thread who is sane! Good grief, this place is going to lose its reputation if us good intellectual types don’t kick out all the witches that are making us look bad.
Just imagine what it was like when seas of buffalo roamed the ranges.
I wonder if we could invite the Bundy daughter to answer questions on Free Republic?
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