Skip to comments.THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)
Posted on 04/10/2014 11:32:07 AM PDT by xzins
By SHIREE BUNDY COX:
Big government and the little people
ping to the daughter’s explanation
May God bless and protect the Bundy family against their enemies; our government.
I read her statement earlier. She does a great job of presenting a long and peculiar situation, and one which illustrates the government’s war against small and independent operators as opposed to corporate latifundia.
Until somebody shoots him.
As I said, he doesn’t get to decide when to stop paying the fees. We’d all quit if we could.
“while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repairs and improvements of the ranches.”
She certainly had that in the right order. Here in NJ we have to collect tolls just to pay toll collectors; it certainly isn’t being spent on maintenance.
I thought it was odd that grazing cattle could harm a tortise.
I have to side with the ranchers on this. I think the eviro-nazis are behind this. They have a willing ally in Obama.
Government is too big, too expensive, too intrusive.
This is NOT what our founding fathers intended. Shame on these agents...shame on every last one of’em.
Funny how the desert tortoise is still there after four generations of cattle grazing isn’t it? How did it ever survive without the FedMob?
I spent a year in New Jersey split between Ft Monmouth and Ft Dix. Toll collector is probably the leading job in the state, isn’t it?
I started to get nervous they’d put a toll booth on my front door.
They keep challenging them to races in the heat of the day.
Isn’t this crazy conspiracy talk? Why is this even being discussed? None of this could really happen here. Did you hear all those people she’s saying have been bought off by our angelic government? That’s just crazy. It could never happen here.
The federal cattle rustlers should be given a taste of prairie justice.
Especially since it’s all over a turtle and not say... lucrative fracking leases...
Mission creep. Let the government in and soon they will own everything.
No way it could be about something besides tortoises. The government said it was about tortoises and our government would never *lie* to us. That would be a conspiracy, and conspiracies can’t happen here. It’s just crazy for anybody to even suggest such a thing.
I’m really glad you didn’t suggest such a thing.
They make good money considering the job; for many it was a sought-after career. Over the past few years I’ve noticed a number of “protected minorities” doing it (while chatting on their cell phones, holding up the lines); I wouldn’t enjoy the work atmosphere with that BS...
Utter lunacy. Like claiming out astronauts planted a flag on Mars or that Guam might tip over...
I live in Las Vegas and will drive out to Bunkerville or the Bundy ranch Friday about 8:00AM. I’ve got room for three more. Any Las Vegas Freepers interested in going?
Its not his land. His cattle are grazing on federal land.
At the end of the Mexican-American War in 1848, Mexico and the U.S. signed the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo which granted title to that land to the U.S., for which the U.S. paid Mexico $15 million.
Sixteen years later in 1864, Nevada became a state. A provision of the Nevada Statehood Act of 1864 promised that Nevada would disclaim all rights to the unappropriated public lands lying within its boundaries, and that such land would remain at the sole disposition of the United States.
Cliven Bundy has no legal right to graze his cattle on federal land without permission. When he stopped paying grazing fees, the federal government sold his grazing rights to the Clark County Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan.
In short, the U.S. bought and paid for that land. It owns it. It makes the rules on it. Article 1 section 8 of the Constitution specifically enumerates Congress the EXCLUSIVE legislative authority in all cases whatsoever. State law does not apply. County law does not apply. Cattle Barron law does not apply. Open range law does not apply. The ONLY law that does apply is US Federal law.
Art 1 Sec 8, 17th enumerated power;
17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings
As an Ohio freeper, even if I started driving this minute and went nonstop without sleep, at 8 am Friday, I’d only be entering Oklahoma.
I wish Mark Levin would broadcast from the ranch....
Read the daughter’s letter.
I’ve seen your post on about 4 or 5 threads now. Lot’s of folks simply don’t agree with you. Apparently, the governor of the state of Nevada, a former federal judge, isn’t buying the government line.
That’s right. Anybody who would think this could be about fracking instead of about turtles is obviously somebody who thinks the moon landing was faked, because turtles and the moon always go hand in hand.
Batsh!t crazy talk, all of it! Anybody suggesting such a crazy, conspiratorial thing should be tested to see if they float like a duck and if they do.... it’s a witch!
Another case where the government is doing more harm than good. The case for ‘over grazing’ is dead wrong.
The worlds leading expert on desertification has come out and said that the belief the over grazing leads to desertification is backwords, it’s actually large herd grazing that stays off desertification, and can actually reverse it.
Agreed. About all I have left to add is fnord...
I have read the daughters letter and her attempt to use emotional language to inflame the passions of conservatives is beyond the pale. The fact remains that the land belongs to the US Government. The Government gets the same rights of determining how that land is used. Just as Bundy gets to determine how his 150 acres that he OWNs, is used.
The cows and the tortoises have lived in harmony together long before the government stuck their noses in all of this, I’d imagine.
If the “rustlers” are bosses are reading the right sites, they will see that this may happen. Lots of willing people. Intellect and coolness has to be priority.
Who was selling permanent grazing rights to federal land in 1887, and doesn't that statement contradict Cliven Bundy's public statements and filed legal claims that the property belongs to the citizens of the State of Nevada?
Is there a legal document, which would be handy, given that Nevada is a 'color of title' state?
If the great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887, how does that address Cliven Bundy's grazing of cattle in the BLM's Gold Butte area, and the National Park Service's Lake Mead Recreational Area, as well as the Bunkerville allotmen area? When Bundy quit paying grazing fees in 1993, he was grazing cattle only on the Bunkerville allotment.
Exactly. I keep looking for the “vast national parks” and “vast government land holdings” section of the constitution, and I keep running into the first amendment before I find the “vast holdings” clause.
I’m glad there’s somebody else on this thread who is sane! Good grief, this place is going to lose its reputation if us good intellectual types don’t kick out all the witches that are making us look bad.
Just imagine what it was like when seas of buffalo roamed the ranges.
I wonder if we could invite the Bundy daughter to answer questions on Free Republic?
You know, the days are past when I could give a sh!t for anything the Fed’s do or say.
This isn’t about legal equities. It’s about telling the Fed’s to leave us alone.
I wish the Bundy family and the other protesters success in fighting Federal fascism.
Where are the Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings?
Nah, it could never happen here. People in America aren’t willing to be bought with mere money. Some of these people are REPUBLICANS, after all - and we know that the political system has NEVER been able to buy co-conspirators with mere MONEY! You must be another one of those crazy conspiracy talk people, who believe that humans are corruptible and that government can conspire against its own citizens.
I bet you’re so crazy you actually believe that all those millions of Europeans actually stayed silent while millions of Jews, handicapped, elderly people, and dissidents were burned in ovens right before WWII.
Batsh!t crazy talk. No way that coulda happened. It would have been a MASSIVE conspiracy. You’re gonna make everybody think we’re a bunch of LOONS here. Just go away.
Yup, and we got some moles for the government on here now.
Take names and what them. If I were Jim, I would get them to hell off from here.
I think she’s just telling her side of the story. You’ve gotta admit, taxcontrol, they definitely act like they believe what they’re saying....they have a decades long track record to prove it.
Like I wrote to another, wish we could get her on Free Republic for a Q&A session.
My son got his IE 2 years ago, his DA a few months ago, and is working toward the DP.
Meh... Leave ‘em. They add flavoring...
In fact the cattle probably improve things, at least for the tortises.
But his grazng is an “Act of Love” You know... Jeb Bush dun told me so...
[ They dont.
In fact the cattle probably improve things, at least for the tortises. ]
The desert tortoises eat cow poop. Seriously they do.
You must be CRAZY if you think that the regime would target Free Republic just because it’s the center of conservative debate and gets lots and lots of hits. This place is impenetrable because the people in charge are all-knowing and could NEVER be tricked by somebody posing as a conservative when they’re really a government shill. You’ve GOT to be batsh!t crazy to not take everybody at face value here. If they say they’re conservative, gol’durn it, they must be conservative.
Go someplace else with your crazy conspiracy talk. Leftists have such a keep sense of justice and decorum that they would NEVER invade a private enterprise and seek to manipulate public thought in such an underhanded way!
Wow, some people are just so crazy. Why can’t they just play the political tapdancing games that all the OTHER sites and posters are playing? Sheesh. You’d think we were in a war for our survival or something, and there could be double-agents and saboteurs amongst us...