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Nevada ranching family claims victory as government releases cattle (excellent reporting)
Reuters ^ | April 12, 2014 | By Jennifer Dobner

Posted on 04/12/2014 8:08:46 PM PDT by Mariner

BUNKERVILLE, Nevada (Reuters) - U.S. officials ended a stand-off with hundreds of armed protesters in the Nevada desert on Saturday, calling off the government's roundup of cattle it said were illegally grazing on federal land and giving about 300 animals back to the rancher who owned them.

The dispute less than 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas between rancher Cliven Bundy and the U.S. Bureau of Land Management had simmered for days. Bundy had stopped paying fees for grazing his cattle on the government land and officials said he had ignored court orders.

Anti-government groups, right-wing politicians and gun-rights activists camped around Bundy's ranch to support him in a standoff that tapped into long-simmering anger in Nevada and other Western states, where vast tracts of land are owned and governed by federal agencies.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bundyranch; bunkerville; harryreid; neilkornze; nevada
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IMHO this is some very good reporting on what occurred and very little writer's bias can be observed.
1 posted on 04/12/2014 8:08:47 PM PDT by Mariner
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""The sovereign militias are ruling the day," said Rob Mrowka, senior scientist with the Center for Biological Diversity. "Now that this precedent has been set and they're emboldened by the government's capitulation, what's to stop them from applying the same tactics and threats elsewhere?"

That's the point, Silly Goose.

Power can be projected both ways.

2 posted on 04/12/2014 8:11:06 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Mr. Mworka is pretty close to understanding.


3 posted on 04/12/2014 8:13:56 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Mariner

It looks like the BLT SWAT boys got all dressed up for nothing. No “hut, hut, huts” this time boys. You can go back to polishing your bullets now.


4 posted on 04/12/2014 8:15:13 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Mariner

How many more hours before SPLC is sending out fund-raising letters citing Bundy, et al. as dangerous racists, xenophobes, homophobes . . . .


5 posted on 04/12/2014 8:16:29 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Mariner

Great news! Mr. Bundy did something more people should be brave enough to do.


6 posted on 04/12/2014 8:16:48 PM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: Mariner

Soooo mysterious the lightning-fast behavioral change occaisioned by injecting the name Harry Reid into the equation, eh?

Hey:

I’m SURE it has nothing to do with the Mid-terms..!!!

Right...?


7 posted on 04/12/2014 8:18:11 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Mariner
Roger Taylor, retired district manager with the Bureau of Land Management in Arizona, also said the agency's decision to release the cattle will have repercussions. "The (agency) is going to be in a worse situation where they will have a much more difficult time getting those cattle off the land and getting Bundy in compliance with regulations," he said.

What's Mr. Roger Taylor's contact information?

Are we sure he's in compliance?

8 posted on 04/12/2014 8:18:51 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Mariner

So the way I understand it is that his family was using the land for many years before the feds got concerned about this tortoise.

They decide it’s endangered so then they start fining him? If that’s the case, the feds can do this to any of us. They can ruin our businesses and take our property. All they have to do is decide a rat, mouse, snail, or turtle is endangered. They can then start fining us and drive us out of home and/or business? That’s crazy.


9 posted on 04/12/2014 8:19:02 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Mariner

The Federal government never retreats. Anyone who thinks they are through with this is an idiot.


10 posted on 04/12/2014 8:19:39 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Mariner

From Drudge:

Backdown Comes Hours After Reid/China Land Grab Report...
http://www.infowars.com/feds-back-down-from-bundy-siege-after-infowars-expose-of-chinese-land-grab/

We can thank those FReepers who did their homework to help the Bundys. And we can also thank Alex Jones and his organization for publishing that research.

To me it seems like we dodged a bullet again. The first being America getting publicly involved in Syria helping out the Muslim Brotherhood. John F’ing Kerry screwed that one up all by himself.


11 posted on 04/12/2014 8:19:45 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

12 posted on 04/12/2014 8:20:17 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: boycott

They’ve been using the land for some 140 years.


13 posted on 04/12/2014 8:20:53 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"It looks like the BLT SWAT boys got all dressed up for nothing. No “hut, hut, huts” this time boys. You can go back to polishing your bullets now."

It's important for the entire country to understand those boys got run out of town by superior firepower.

I'm convinced by the result that the County and State LEO told the Feds: "You're on your own!"

And they freaked out. Pissed theirselves.

14 posted on 04/12/2014 8:21:01 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Lurker

Mr. Mworka is quilty of conspiracy cattle rustling and should be swinging from a rope.


15 posted on 04/12/2014 8:21:53 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: gaijin
"The sovereign militias are ruling the day," said Rob Mrowka, senior scientist with the Center for Biological Diversity. "Now that this precedent has been set and they're emboldened by the government's capitulation, what's to stop them from applying the same tactics and threats elsewhere?"

That's right, Sparky, and don't you and the government thugs forget it.

16 posted on 04/12/2014 8:24:01 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: boycott

Don’t forget the non-indigenous smelt in California preventing the San Joaquin valley getting adequate water allotments for irrigation during these drought years. The government is out of control.


17 posted on 04/12/2014 8:25:00 PM PDT by kiltie65
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To: gaijin
Is this a picture of a federal agent during the Bundy standoff or a generic photo?
18 posted on 04/12/2014 8:25:05 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Mariner
The bureau said Cliven Bundy still owes taxpayers more than $1 million . . . .

How many times will that be repeated by employees of the MSM for ever and ever?

I forgive the man -- even if there is a legitimate reason for his paying the federal government.

His contribution to America is hundreds of times more valuable.. though not quite equal to the dollars spent on the Obamas' parties, vacations, weekend travels . . . .

19 posted on 04/12/2014 8:25:52 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Mariner

Bookmarked.


20 posted on 04/12/2014 8:26:38 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Mariner

How many cows died at the hands of the BLM and are they going to pay for them —


21 posted on 04/12/2014 8:26:53 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Mariner

Test, test, 1-2-3, Test, test. Can you hear me? Test, test.


22 posted on 04/12/2014 8:27:10 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The Federal government never retreats. Anyone who thinks they are through with this is an idiot.

'Tis true. People are being tracked. Dossiers are being filled. Plans are being made. This is just round one.

23 posted on 04/12/2014 8:28:33 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: gaijin

Thew face of the new Redcoat!


24 posted on 04/12/2014 8:28:45 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Mariner

There is no mention of Harry Reid and his wanting to clear the land of cattle so that he and his son can proceed with plans for building a solar plant with the Chinese. In that regard the article is far from being complete.


25 posted on 04/12/2014 8:30:39 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The Federal government never retreats. Anyone who thinks they are through with this is an idiot.

Can't but agree, especially with a collectivist like Obama in the WH. We may have won this battle but it will probably reoccur, either at the Bundy ranch or elsewhere. One of these times, however, it will not end so peaceably.

26 posted on 04/12/2014 8:31:24 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: gaijin

“posse comitatus? What’s that”?


27 posted on 04/12/2014 8:31:40 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The Federal government never retreats. Anyone who thinks they are through with this is an idiot.

***********

No. They will wait for the turbulence to subside and the people to disperse. Then they will trounce this family like a beast from Daniel.


28 posted on 04/12/2014 8:33:47 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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To: TADSLOS
"This is just round one. "

It's apparent the patriots in the Mountain West are pretty close to prepared.

In DC they're thinking: "Next Time DHS goes in first".

These fast response milita can probably even see that coming.

Twitter, FR, innumerable other sources.

The Feds only move with power and mass. You can see it coming from miles away in the modern world.

Welcome to the American Revolution.

29 posted on 04/12/2014 8:34:25 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Lurker

Not sure I’ve ever even seen a BLM sort here in Texas..... , albeit most of our state property is privately owned they have no real purpose here I suppose.

Wonder what that thermal pic of the area looked like from the DHS / UAV flyovers ?.....:o)

Excellent show of force by the people....well done.

Hope yer well, stay safe !


30 posted on 04/12/2014 8:35:58 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Mariner

The Federal government was in violation of the Constitution because they never ceeded title to 86% of the land comprising Nevada when it became a state.
“The United States government owns and has broad authority to regulate federal lands in Nevada,” the BLM arrogantly insists. “In response to challenges of federal ownership of the lands in Nevada, the 9th circuit held that the federal government owned all federal lands in Nevada, and that those lands did not pass to the state upon statehood.”

This is in direct conflict with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution.


31 posted on 04/12/2014 8:36:35 PM PDT by zzwhale
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32 posted on 04/12/2014 8:38:16 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
RE: The Federal government never retreats. Anyone who thinks they are through with this is an idiot.

I would agree to the extent that it is because the federal government is today commanded by aged 1960s New Left Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats and their ideological issue -- arguably even that they are the Establishment.

As talk of war in eastern Europe, Asia, wherever and whatever I can see crackdowns on "sedition" to destroy critics.. again I predict a repeat of FDR'S Great Sedition Trial of 1944.

It failed because Americans in positions of power put an end to it.

Look who's in power nowadays. We have two Americas: them and us.

33 posted on 04/12/2014 8:38:31 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Mariner

Just curious:

Had anyone else found/posted this notice I came across in the Federal Register?

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2014-03-27/pdf/2014-06826.pdf


34 posted on 04/12/2014 8:39:47 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: Mariner

It would be informative to see just how many Nevada ranchers have been driven off their land by the BLM - EPA.


35 posted on 04/12/2014 8:41:56 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Yeah, he can have my share. Better investment of my hard earned money than 75% of the other horseshit the government spends it on.


36 posted on 04/12/2014 8:42:45 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Mariner

I heard on the Mark Levin show a night or two ago that the tortoises they are so concerned about are actually thriving - so much so that they are euthanizing them in the protected areas that have been set aside for them. Also, he said they have existed with the cattle for many years with no ill effect. I have not heard that reported anywhere else. The real story, of course, is Harry Reid, his son and the solar farms the Chinese want to build on that land - the new head of the BLM Nevada - a Reid donor. Additionally, as someone here posted a few days ago, why does the Fed. Government own sooooo much of the territory of the western U.S.? It looks like a third of the entire U.S. if not more!


37 posted on 04/12/2014 8:43:16 PM PDT by Lake Living
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To: gaijin

on the news last night they said the situation had gone global. That sure helped a bit...Ruby Ridge didn’t have the back up or the internet.


38 posted on 04/12/2014 8:43:35 PM PDT by goat granny (.)
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To: dragnet2

I wonder what it is going to take to get Holder’s Justice Department to comply with the law?


39 posted on 04/12/2014 8:43:46 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Mariner
Some excellent pics at your link.


40 posted on 04/12/2014 8:44:00 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Mariner; TADSLOS
yup, round two and the gloves come off...
41 posted on 04/12/2014 8:44:51 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Mariner

I believe Erkl is very angry and frustrated at this. When a tyke is angry and frustrated, it lashes out. I expect Erkl will lash out very soon.


42 posted on 04/12/2014 8:45:15 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

To kill a snake you must cut off its head.


43 posted on 04/12/2014 8:46:12 PM PDT by satan (The tree of liberty is dying in the drought.)
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To: gaijin

cowards and thieves hide behind masks....it should not be allowed in law enforcement...they must be fraidy cats...


44 posted on 04/12/2014 8:46:27 PM PDT by goat granny (.)
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To: logi_cal869
Had anyone else found/posted this notice I came across in the Federal Register?

No. Thanks.

Odd the timing. No reason stated for the closure that I could find.

Land owners still have right of way. What do you think it means? Except for the timing. I know why that's there.

5.56mm

45 posted on 04/12/2014 8:46:34 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Mariner
"The sovereign militias are ruling the day," said Rob Mrowka, senior scientist with the Center for Biological Diversity. "Now that this precedent has been set and they're emboldened by the government's capitulation..."

Now that that, what, Rob? They might take their country back from the government "experts"? Americans nearly shot Americans today, Rob, and not for the first time. My advice is to get the hell out of the line of fire, because this isn't over.

46 posted on 04/12/2014 8:46:56 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: dragnet2

The dem’s private polls must have been on fire and the last thing the dems were wanting is another millstone around their collective necks, definitely about Nov. Mid-Terms.


47 posted on 04/12/2014 8:46:58 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It’s not over. This was just a skirmish. Now is the time to press the issue and to prepare.


48 posted on 04/12/2014 8:48:13 PM PDT by Ray76 (Take over the GOP? You still beg! Forget them. Second Party Now.)
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To: logi_cal869
"Had anyone else found/posted this notice I came across in the Federal Register?"

Thank you. Excellent, informative post of record.

It shows the BLM dictated, by their own bureaucratic fiat, and without force of court order or any other judicial review, that 600,000 acres of the peoples land was off limits to them.

The epitome of lawlessness.

49 posted on 04/12/2014 8:48:42 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The Federal government never retreats.

Wrong.

They did today...

50 posted on 04/12/2014 8:49:39 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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