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Carson for president backers report $4 million raised, campaign apparatus into place
Fox News ^ | April 12, 2014

Posted on 04/13/2014 12:48:55 AM PDT by kingattax

Conservatives frustrated with the direction of the country think Dr. Ben Carson can change the course by winning the 2016 presidential race.

Now they just have to convince him.

The group, RunBenRun.org, a super PAC, has already raised $4 million toward a Carson bid for the Republican nomination and has collected 200,000 signatures for a petition to get him to join the race.

John Philip Sousa IV, the group’s national chairman, said Tuesday that members are working Carson on an almost daily basis, sending along petition-drive updates and hundreds of “clamorings” for him to run, received through letters, Facebook postings and other forms of communication.

“I don’t’ like the direction in which the county is going,” said Sousa, the great grandson of the late American composer John Philip Sousa, who wrote such iconic songs as “Stars and Stripes Forever” and “Semper Fidelis,” the official march of the U.S. Marine Corps. “Carson doesn’t whine like some other Republicans. He brings a solution to the table.”

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please don't hire mark block to manage the campaign.
1 posted on 04/13/2014 12:48:55 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

I live in Louisiana not far from NOLA and I saw my first ever Carson 16 bumper sticker on a pickup yesterday. He clearly has some support.


2 posted on 04/13/2014 1:02:55 AM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: kingattax
Herman Cain without the sense humor.

Why is it that conservatives persist in their quadrennial quest for a black presidential nominee? Colin Powell-how has that worked out for us? Herman Cain-how did that work out? Condoleezza Rice-conservative three days a week and liberal four days a week.

Dr. Ben Carson is an estimable man with a stellar resume and, concededly, the right set of values but he has no electoral experience whatsoever and no demonstrated ability to get votes. At best he might be running for vice president but attention and money should not be diverted to his campaign when we have people like Ted Cruz in the wings.

If we have to have an African-American to parade before the cameras to demonstrate, evidently to ourselves alone, that we are not bigots we have Alan West who is a man of accomplishment and demonstrated character at least the equal of Dr. Carson, and a man who can be relied upon for the hard choices.


3 posted on 04/13/2014 1:05:36 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Alan West’s defense of his NDAA vote is loathsome to Our US Republic, in no uncertain terms.


4 posted on 04/13/2014 1:18:37 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler
Alan West’s defense of his NDAA vote

I confess I am ignorant that vote.


5 posted on 04/13/2014 1:23:20 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

I have read that Carson’s a “moderate” on the Second Amendment. In my book, you either support the Second Amendment or you don’t. That right there is non-negotiable.

Allen West voted for the Pigford reparations scam-he explains it as not having done his “due diligence” on the matter before voting. I consider not doing one’s due diligence before voting to pass out billions of taxpayer dollars to people who never even grew a tomato in a pot, as “farmers”, just because they’re black, a serious lack of judgement, at the least. That’s like Pelosi saying they had to pass CommieCare to see what’s in it.

When will the right really internalise the message of principle and just stop playing the left’s game of “tag” according to “diversity”?


6 posted on 04/13/2014 1:24:57 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: kingattax

You can’t “draft” someone who doesn’t want to run for President.


7 posted on 04/13/2014 1:26:05 AM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: mrsmel
I would agree with everything you said and specifically concur with respect to a serious lapse by Colonel West if it occurred as described.


8 posted on 04/13/2014 1:27:35 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: mrsmel

youre correct. identity politics for conservatives is not the winning formula.


9 posted on 04/13/2014 1:30:46 AM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: nathanbedford

There were only two that voted against- Dianne Feinstein and Rand Paul. Alan West actually defended his vote on the Hannity radio show, with full vigor. Anyone who could vote for and defend that vote, for such an abomination, against Our Republic, can not see the true nature of Our Country.


10 posted on 04/13/2014 1:35:33 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler

West served in the House. Those two you mentioned are Senators.

Please clarify who voted for what...I am confused!


11 posted on 04/13/2014 1:45:44 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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To: kingattax

Sadly, Carson is a pro-amnesty centrist:

www.examiner.com/article/ben-carson-black-conservative-or-centrist-fraud


12 posted on 04/13/2014 1:50:52 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Laslo Fripp

Perhaps, I am lacking in fully understanding the difference, between the full house support and the senate rejection by only two members. Are you still confused, or, lacking good intention- must proffer the latter?


13 posted on 04/13/2014 2:05:09 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: 9YearLurker

Carson needs to run for some elective office to gain some political experience. He very possibly could have some views that on closer examination, people may find out he isn’t such a great candidate after all.

amazing how people can make a decision to support a candidate who has a thin political resume. They haven’t bothered to research positions on issues, instead basing everything on “liking” the person like voting for American Idol.


14 posted on 04/13/2014 2:07:46 AM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: Laslo Fripp

By the by, are you damp...much or often? I proudly served, in US Army, with a couple of your fellow denizens. They offered up, such awful stories- about familial inbreeding, bad dentistry and how humid weather, was the cause such a social pariah status, in New Hampshire.


15 posted on 04/13/2014 2:20:49 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: kingattax

If you thought the anti-Mormon attacks on RINO Romney were bad, IIRC Carson is a Seventh Day Adventist. That’s a whole different brand of eccentric religious beliefs.

Scientology had L.Ron Hubbard.The SDA version was a “prophet” named Ellen G. White. She plagiarized kooky prophesies from other authors after surviving the miracle of getting hit in the face with a rock.


16 posted on 04/13/2014 2:24:48 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Show me the man and I will find the crime. - Lavrenti Beria)
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To: kingattax

Absolutely—I agree with you on both counts!

The GOP and conservatives are so desperate to prove that they aren’t racist that they’ll back any black who suggests he’s a Republican—without his having any experience or record or their knowing his positions on basic issues.

That of course opens it up for narcissists, opportunists, and even schemers from the other side to be put up to splitting the conservative vote in the primaries, election cycle after election cycle.


17 posted on 04/13/2014 2:38:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: mrsmel

Agreed. Pigford—and West’s support of it—didn’t pass the smell test.


18 posted on 04/13/2014 2:40:14 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

And pro gun control


19 posted on 04/13/2014 3:06:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Yep.


20 posted on 04/13/2014 3:09:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: kingattax

“...gain some political experience...thin political resume...”

It is one thing to run for an executive office, quite another to know how to govern. Leaving all other flaws aside, Obama is exhibit number one.

Agree how many people will support a candidate with a thin political resume and not research the candidate. People fail to research those with thick political resumes too. Besides, a thick resume will always allow informed voters to find something not to like in a candidate.


21 posted on 04/13/2014 3:46:14 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (U Think Leftist/Liberals Still Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: 9YearLurker

“...so desperate to prove that they aren’t racist that they’ll back any black who suggests he’s a Republican”

Having ten years past experience in party politics, I have seen this first hand. I have also seen a few [pick your aggrieved class] use this to make a go in politics. In fact, there are narcissists, opportunists, and schemers from every demographic that gets into politics because of the power, the ego, and other reasons. It does not matter the party. A good primary system helps weed out some of these people from getting office.

High moral character is an essential ingredient when trusted with governmental power. I have met and worked with some of these people too. Some got elected, some did not because they were not in the right place at the right time.

I don’t know much about Ben Carson, but he appears to project good moral character. If he wants to try a political career, he already has name recognition - he could run for high office in his state first rather than Congress.


22 posted on 04/13/2014 4:01:36 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (U Think Leftist/Liberals Still Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

I totally agree.


23 posted on 04/13/2014 4:07:20 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: kingattax

I like Ben Carson. Don’t always agree with him, but then I’ve found some disagreement with every politician. Guess I’m looking for perfection and there isn’t any in any candidate.

One thing noticeably absent from Dr. Carson’s writings and speeches is foreign policy. What would he do about Russia, China, Iran, North Korea? Would he be tough on our enemies or would he bow down to them like the present occupant of the White House?

I’m not sure Dr. Carson is ready for the presidency. Perhaps a cabinet post or a position of adviser to the president would be more suitable at this time. Maybe with experience he will be a good president. He’s not there yet.


24 posted on 04/13/2014 4:16:01 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: mrsmel

Agreed. I won’t vote for someone who is moderate on 2A. That’s a deal breaker for me.


25 posted on 04/13/2014 4:57:07 AM PDT by punknpuss
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To: peyton randolph

I’d be the first to agree the Dr. Carson needs more “seasoning” and exposure to the rest of the country. He is, after all, a product of the environment in which he was raised and has lived, i.e., a big city. He needs to learn about middle America and expand his understanding of this country.

You should have more information about his religious creed before you let loose with “kooky”. You could read up a little and understand what Seventh-Day Adventists actually believe and the contributions they have made to this country particularly in the areas of medicine, nutrition and education.

However, I agree with you, he is likely to take a lot of flack for his religion. What a shame that is.


26 posted on 04/13/2014 5:14:34 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: kingattax

Or Ed Rollins!


27 posted on 04/13/2014 5:18:23 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

I’ll tell you one thing - I’m not looking forward to primary season here at FR. Things get really ugly and I’m not exaggerating.


28 posted on 04/13/2014 5:20:17 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Especially when the preference-bots show up and blast every thread with their propaganda. Then they attack anyone who posts anything in opposition. Those attacks get personal.

Many, including many FReepers, revert to alinsky-est tactics and personal attacks on other posters.


29 posted on 04/13/2014 6:06:25 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: miss marmelstein

Give it up. Donald Trump?


30 posted on 04/13/2014 6:07:10 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: kingattax

Is this right after the Freepers world was back Scott Brown as the next messiah? Or after they were calling Rove a magnificent bastard after the ‘04 election.

Freepers don’t really have the best crowd sourced candidates.


31 posted on 04/13/2014 6:15:39 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: nathanbedford
Why is it that conservatives persist in their quadrennial quest for a black presidential nominee?

Ben Carson is not Collin Powell nor Herman Cain nor Condi Rice. No more than I am Joe Biden because I'm the same color. I see the individual. He is Ben Carson. I see him based on the principles he articulates. His color is irrelevant to me.

32 posted on 04/13/2014 6:21:38 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men)
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To: kingattax

Ben told a close friend of mine he will not run, says he can do much more from the sidelines.


33 posted on 04/13/2014 6:26:42 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: TomGuy

Then we all end up retaliating like two year olds! I promise myself that I’ll disappear this primary season.


34 posted on 04/13/2014 6:32:04 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Huh?


35 posted on 04/13/2014 6:32:34 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: nathanbedford

Carson is smart and interesting, but I would never vote for him be cause of his position on the 2Nd Amendment.

I would vote for Allan West without any hesitation.

My preference would be Ted Cruz.


36 posted on 04/13/2014 6:35:49 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: 9YearLurker

I read the article you referenced at “www.examiner.com/article/ben-carson-black-conservative-or-centrist-fraud”. I’d like to make a point, which will likely infuriate many of my fellow conservatives, but I believe still warrants discussion. Mr. Carson stated “It depends on where you live. I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it.” At least for me, this is a very painful statement because I, along with the rest of you, reflexively cringe at that statement because I am generally unwilling to bend an inch when it comes to my 2nd Amendment rights. On the other hand, as someone who was born and raised in a New York City slum, and now live far away amongst the responsible, civilized and law abiding, I am painfully aware of a very difficult dichotomy: When I (must) on occasion pass through the neighborhoods of my youth, I am overwhelmed by the prevalence of their “Thug culture”, swaggering around with half dropped pants, emulating their gangsta rapper hero’s. Witnessing this I can’t help but wonder about MY OWN eagerness to support THEIR 2nd amendment rights! Of course, as soon as I return home, it all seems like a bad dream. The CULTURE imposed on these people by their left wing elitist masters does not allow for responsible, law abiding gun ownership. I know it’s horrible to say that, and believe me, I am NEVER giving up my guns, but I can’t really blame Mr Carson for verbalizing what I, and I’ll bet millions of other true conservatives think daily, but dare not speak!


37 posted on 04/13/2014 6:47:09 AM PDT by NYAmerican
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To: NYAmerican

I’ve lived in NYC and am still in the region.

Better IMO for NYC to deal with its crazy people than to violate the 2nd Amendment. But the issue Carson completely loses me on is amnesty, whereby he says of course he’d give citizenship to all the illegals who are here now.


38 posted on 04/13/2014 6:51:40 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: kingattax

The man is coldly rational.There is no BS. He is a brilliant speaker with thoughts when implemented would carry the country back to it’s roots. He makes a wonderful personal point about his road from nothing to top of the heap and then makes a strong devastating political point. The Rat never feels the death stab until it is way too late.

He says that there are several able candidates and if one doesn’t catch fire, he will pray on it. It is my belief that he is running for Health Care czar. He has the program worked out and ready to be implemented. He has been working with unstated others to develop the program. Health care czar ( Sec Dept of Health and Human Services) might not require a brain surgeon for the task, but when the best brain surgeon in the business volunteers, why not take him up on the offer)

Corporate America is promoting him to tackle the Obamacare disaster. My thought is that realizing the disaster must be cleaned up for their own survival,corporate forces are behind him to allow the Presidential race as a stage from which he can be heard delivering his strong healthcare message. No sane Republican President would refuse him the health care position.

Regarding Amnesty, he favors closing the border first.


39 posted on 04/13/2014 7:09:27 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: nathanbedford

That is racist...... Dr Carson is your better

Take some time and listen to him less the racial overtones.


40 posted on 04/13/2014 7:12:04 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: kingattax

Ben is a bright light and I’ve attended his speeches.

His folks were out in force at the Colorado GOP State, CD, and HD Assemblies this weekend.

There are several Cabinet positions I’d love to see him in, but I just don’t believe he’s dynamic enough to win at the top of the ticket.


41 posted on 04/13/2014 7:14:13 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: miss marmelstein

If it is ever established that Jesus Christ is not running, things will be much better.

Perhaps we will be spared the endless anti Mormon biggotry side show this time.


42 posted on 04/13/2014 7:16:32 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert

and he’s really black and born in America.


43 posted on 04/13/2014 7:28:11 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: nathanbedford
Why is it that conservatives persist in their quadrennial quest for a black presidential nominee? Colin Powell-how has that worked out for us? Herman Cain-how did that work out? Condoleezza Rice-conservative three days a week and liberal four days a week.

I doubt that many conservatives were in favor of Colin Powell. Condie undoubtedly had some support from conservatives, but it was not overwhelming.

I was a Cain supporter because conservative principles appeared to comprise his core beliefs and he exuded self-assurance. I knew he would not get the nomination because he didn't pay his dues by running for, winning, and successfully carrying out the duties of lesser offices. However, I certainly didn't expect him to be blown away by the first breeze.

Ben Carson is drawing conservative support not because of his race, but because he appears, like Cain did, to be the real thing, as opposed to phony-balonies like Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich. But again, you need to pay your dues, and the presidency should not be the first office that you seek.

44 posted on 04/13/2014 7:28:26 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: 9YearLurker

I agree on the amnesty. But the “NYC thing” still bothers me. There is no easy answer.


45 posted on 04/13/2014 7:39:10 AM PDT by NYAmerican
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To: bert

That was bad. And the vile things said about Michele Bachmann!


46 posted on 04/13/2014 8:23:40 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Fear not !!

Marsha Blackman is coming on to take up where Michelle left off.

There will be the voice of a strong conservative woman


47 posted on 04/13/2014 8:44:40 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert
Take some time and listen to him less the racial overtones.

"Overtones"… Let's see, are overtones like… emanations or penumbras… Or maybe they're more like… Insinuations.

Yes that's it, "overtones" is a word we use when we want to insinuate something for which we have not a scrap of evidence.

But it doesn't matter whether you call me flat-out racist because, like Al Sharpton, like Jesse Jackson, like all of the rest you resort to one of the most degraded stratagems of the race baiters: You offer no evidence.

You have been around FreeRepublic for a long time, you should know better.


48 posted on 04/13/2014 8:56:53 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

The allegation is not with out merit. Read your post.

It slurs good black people in an apparent attempt to remove them from consideration because of some of their beliefs.

I made the post to allow you to look at what you wrote in light of the continuous racial allegations made against conservatives.

The fact some blacks are Republican should not be grounds for opposition.


49 posted on 04/13/2014 9:03:18 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert
It slurs good black people in an apparent attempt to remove them from consideration because of some of their beliefs.

Of course I attempt "to remove [candidates] because of some of their beliefs."

Listen to yourself.

I made the post to allow you to look at what you wrote in light of the continuous racial allegations made against conservatives.

And I made my post to encourage conservatives to look at themselves in the light of a tendency to pander on race.


50 posted on 04/13/2014 9:08:40 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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