Posted on 04/14/2014 3:05:18 PM PDT by tcrlaf
Civil war in Ukraine is unlikely as Kiev’s junta is quickly losing support, according to Jon Hellevig, co-author of the book “Putin’s New Russia."
“I don't think there will be any civil war,” Hellevig, a managing partner at the Moscow-based Awara Group, told RIA Novosti.
“The Russian people of eastern and southern parts of present-day Ukraine will take over their local governments soon, without large-scale conflict,” said Hellevig, a longtime observer of Russia's development.
Pro-federalization protesters in Ukraine’s eastern city of Slaviansk ignored a Monday deadline by the central regime to lay down arms.
(Excerpt) Read more at en.ria.ru ...
What is there is left to steal? The oligarchs you blindly support have looted Ukraine for the past quarter of a century.
People supported the Maidan because they were sick of it. Everyone understands their aspirations for a better life. Its just the current regime is falling far short in meeting them.
Its not providing a roadmap forward for the country. People expect clear answers to the questions they want answered about economic reform, fighting corruption, increasing transparency, expanding democracy and federalism. Its time they received them.
IS that you, Vlad?
Putun, Obama and the couple dozen Putinistas on FR are all on the same side.
No, you don’t understand anything about how that part of the world works. Ethnicity is VERY important there, it’s not like France or America. Everyone in the USSR had their ethnicity on their identification papers. Nobody, NOBODY thought of Lenin and Trotsky as Russians. At the time, everyone in the Russian Empire understood that the communist revolution was about all the people who thought the previous government had oppressed them getting revenge. Ethnic politics was a big part of that and it was no secret.
It’s absurd to suggest that not considering Stalin an ethnic Russian is something only Nazis would do. It shows how little you know about the USSR and the culture and history of that part of the world. Ironically, the Nazis probably cared less than anyone that Stalin was not ethnically Russian.
Your position is especially ridiculous because you are placing blame on one ethnic group for actions ordered by men not of that group, then insisting that the reality of who was what doesn’t matter. If that’s the case, why blame “Russians” for anything the USSR did? Why not just say “communists?” It would be more accurate.
Perhaps you should make yourself aware of the risks, past and future, associated with incitement to aggression with respect to the ongoing Russian aggression against the territorial integrity and independence of the Ukraine.
From Nuremberg to The Hague: Towards an International Crime of Incitement to Aggression
Michael G. Kearney
in The Prohibition of Propaganda for War in International Law
Published in print November 2007 | ISBN: 9780199232451
Published online January 2009 | e-ISBN: 9780191716034 | DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199232451.003.0006
The Prohibition of Propaganda for War in International Law
Michael G. Kearney
ISBN: 9780199232451
E-ISBN: 9780191716034
DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1093/acprof:oso/9780199232451.001.0001
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This chapter makes the case for the inclusion in the Rome Statute of a distinct and inchoate crime of ‘direct and public incitement to aggression’. A similar offence was included in the International Law Commission’s draft Code of Offences Against the Peace and Security of Mankind in 1954 yet omitted from the 1996 draft, a move which is herein considered. The jurisprudence of the ad hoc international criminal tribunals provide guidance on the criminalization of incitement to crimes of an international dimension, especially cases dealing with charges of hate speech, war propaganda, and...
This chapter makes the case for the inclusion in the Rome Statute of a distinct and inchoate crime of ‘direct and public incitement to aggression’. A similar offence was included in the International Law Commission’s draft Code of Offences Against the Peace and Security of Mankind in 1954 yet omitted from the 1996 draft, a move which is herein considered. The jurisprudence of the ad hoc international criminal tribunals provide guidance on the criminalization of incitement to crimes of an international dimension, especially cases dealing with charges of hate speech, war propaganda, and incitement to genocide, war crimes, or crimes against humanity. The Rome Statute itself, and its drafting, is also discussed, particularly with regards the crime of aggression.
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Keywords: Rome statute; International Law Commission; incitement; aggression; Rwanda; Nahimana; inchoate; Yugoslavia; Nuremberg; genocide
Chapter. 26781 words.
Subjects: public international law
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Dude. It was the Russians. Georgian at the top, whatever . . . .
Ukrainians and Poles make good neighbors, but you don’t want both living under the same roof.
Why is Lenin's Tomb still in the Kremlin? Why are Lenin statues all over Russia? Why are Russians taking umbrage at the removal of Lenin statues in Ukraine?
Lenin had Mongol, Swedish, Jewish, German in addition to Russian blood, but his papers would have identified him as an ethnic Russian because he got that from his paternal ancestors. But to anyone but the Russian version of a Nazi, he would have been seen as plain Russian.
Interesting that you say that ethnicity is very important there.
All oblasts in Ukraine including the eastern oblasts have a majority of people who are ethnic Ukrainian.
You bring up a good point.
Russia should keep their hands out of Ukraine.
Thanks for that.
Catherine the Great was a German princess who ousted the original Tzar in a coup. She also happened to be the ruler who vastly extended Russian power and began the Russian occupation of Ukraine, Crimea and Poland.
For all intents and purposes, she may as well been a Russian the same way Napoleon’s identity is irrevocably tied to France even though he was ethnically an Italian.
It’s the same with Lenin and Stalin. Trotsky, less so because he was Jewish.
I think I support your general thesis if I understand it... that Russians don’t see themselves as Soviets (?).
Trotsky was Ukranian, but Lenin absolutely was Russian.
Lenin was Russian. Trotsky was Ukranian. Stalin was Georgian. That they represented different nationalities was essential to Soviet ideology, which saw itself as global-multicultural and opposed to the Empire, rather than nationalistic. While Catherine reclaimed Crimea from the Turks, Crimea was Russian long before Catherine the Great; calling the Russian Empire’s rule of Crimea an occupation is like referring to the British occupation of Manchester, or the American occupation of Pennsylvania. The Rus were in Crimea before they were in Moscow!
I must wonder what you think motivates the left, if not even taxes and the control that they can have through them.
Right, that’s why in Mykolayiv and in Zaporizhya (both in south Ukraine) they were kicked out. I wonder if Russia Today carried that, but I’ll be glad to give you links
I am in this century... apparently you lack understanding and awareness.
If you think any of the propaganda being driven by the communists are putting out is reliable you are even more delusional than I thought.
Try reading The Perestroika Deception....and any thing else about how the communists operate.
I use the term Soviet Union (formerly known as Russia) in a manner which apparently you are incapable of getting.
“If you think any of the propaganda being driven by the communists are putting out is reliable you are even more delusional than I thought.”
Do you mean the Communists in Moscow? Or the ones currently in DC? There are more in OUR government now, than there are in Russia’s. And that is truly a sad state of affairs.
And that has been true since FDR was in office
read some history will ya
That you have to add the word “German” into it gives the game up.
Control. That is all.
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