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Is Vladimir Putin Another Adolf Hitler?
Forbes ^ | 04/16/2014 | Paul Johnson

Posted on 04/17/2014 3:50:14 AM PDT by Siegfried X

As Mein Kampf makes clear, Hitler sought to unite all the people of German speech and culture into one state, or Reich, preferably by peaceful negotiation, otherwise by war and conquest...

Today’s drift toward war with Russia seems like a replay of the past. Putin is a Russian nationalist, who believes in a strong Stalinist state. His goal is to reverse the events of 1989–the end of the Soviet state and dissolution of its enormous empire...

...to wield against the various weak states that were part of the U.S.S.R... All have ethnic Russian minorities, who speak the language, boast of their superior Russian culture and claim to have been relegated to second-class citizenship. Putin can rely on these minorities to agitate for Russian intervention whenever he wants–most importantly in the Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. His successful annexation of Crimea is greatly encouraging to his long-term plans, and it’s clear he’ll use everything in his power, including military force, to reconstruct his empire.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agitprop; coldwar2; communism; hitler; newrussia; novorossiya; obamasbuttboys; putin; russia; sovietunion; stalin
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1 posted on 04/17/2014 3:50:15 AM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: Siegfried X

No, he isn’t. Godwin’s Law invoked.


2 posted on 04/17/2014 3:59:33 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Siegfried X

I think the real question is Putin another Barak Obama?

You know, a left-wing thug?


3 posted on 04/17/2014 4:00:17 AM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: Siegfried X

Very, very interesting. When Paul Johnson, whom I consider to be an outstanding historian of Europe, speaks, I listen.


4 posted on 04/17/2014 4:00:37 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Siegfried X

In truth, I am worried about the rise of a Hitler in this country more than what is going on in Russia.


5 posted on 04/17/2014 4:03:58 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Siegfried X

Yes, they are firming up the gas chambers as we speak. What do you think they are doing with the stadiums in Sochi, now that the Olympics are over? /sarc


6 posted on 04/17/2014 4:07:50 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Siegfried X

Which Head of State is actively threatening the freedom and liberty of American citizens?

That’s the guy to write articles about.

Hint: it isn’t Putin.


7 posted on 04/17/2014 4:10:44 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

“A leaflet distributed in Donetsk, Ukraine calling for all Jews over 16 years old to register as Jews marred the Jewish community’s Passover festivities Monday (Passover eve), replacing them with feelings of concern.The leaflet demanded the city’s Jews supply a detailed list of all the property they own, or else have their citizenship revoked, face deportion and see their assets confiscated.”

http://www.ynetnews.com/articl...


8 posted on 04/17/2014 4:13:09 AM PDT by sueQ
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To: Siegfried X

I wish people worried as much about what Obama is doing as what Putin is doing.


9 posted on 04/17/2014 4:14:26 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Siegfried X

No, Putin is not a Hitler because he doesn’t hate the jews like the Ukraine government, US is supporting


10 posted on 04/17/2014 4:15:44 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: sueQ

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4510688,00.html


11 posted on 04/17/2014 4:16:15 AM PDT by sueQ
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To: Siegfried X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkfpGCAAuw
Ukraine Crisis - What You’re Not Being Told


12 posted on 04/17/2014 4:17:04 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Siegfried X

Time to rouse the patriotic white male demographic to yet another foreign war. It might work, but I’m betting the country’s slide to YugoMerica with its dominant political party being composed of fairies and racialists of the non-patriotic variety this won’t be another Red, White and Blue 2002. Or succinctly the next great war better not last too many EBT replenishment cycles.


13 posted on 04/17/2014 4:17:23 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Siegfried X
Yet Obama makes no decisive moves. What ails the man? Is it cowardice? Indecision?

No. It's flexibility.

14 posted on 04/17/2014 4:20:30 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Siegfried X

If Putin is another Hitler, then we know for sure that Obama is another Neville Chamberlain as it concerns Europe. Besides, Putin can conquer as much territory as he wants. There is nothing that Obama and his lesbian/homosexual/bisexual/transgender/queer army can do about it.


15 posted on 04/17/2014 4:22:37 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Siegfried X

Paul Johnson is an OUTSTANDING historian.

His “A History of the American People” is the best summary of the subject, a superior alternative to the agitprop of Howard Zinn.

I will listen carefully to his analysis.


16 posted on 04/17/2014 4:32:28 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Siegfried X

no


17 posted on 04/17/2014 4:35:30 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Siegfried X
His goal is to reverse the events of 1989–the end of the Soviet state and dissolution of its enormous empire...

Well then the Ukrainians played right into his hand with that coup.

18 posted on 04/17/2014 4:38:21 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: Timber Rattler

Is that: history doesn’t repeat itself but it rhymes?


19 posted on 04/17/2014 4:39:44 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Siegfried X
All have ethnic Russian minorities, who speak the language, boast of their superior Russian culture and claim to have been relegated to second-class citizenship. Putin can rely on these minorities to agitate for Russian intervention whenever he wants
Russia's Far East Turning Chinese
The Chinese are invading Russia — not with tanks, but with suitcases. Alexander Shaikin, in charge of controlling the Russian-Chinese border, said on June 29 that 1.5 million people from China have illegally entered the Russian Far East over the past 18 months.
20 posted on 04/17/2014 4:41:47 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Siegfried X
What’s to stop Putin? The West is led by the modern equivalents of Chamberlain...worst of all, President Barack Obama–the one man who has the power to stop Putin in his tracks–does nothing. He makes Neville Chamberlain seem like a bellicose activist.

Johnson nails it.

21 posted on 04/17/2014 4:45:09 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Cowboy Bob

Johnson is writing about Putin’s nationalist ambitions, not about racial and religious bigotry. He makes an interesting case. He certainly pegs BO well:

“Clearly there’s something fundamentally wrong with the U.S. President.”


22 posted on 04/17/2014 4:49:38 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Siegfried X

He’s a nasty character for sure.

But all Hitler comparisons fall flat until he kills his first 20 million.


23 posted on 04/17/2014 4:59:33 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Siegfried X

US-Russian relations under the Czar were cordial, yet they were an Empire and doing some bad things back then as well, we didn’t seem to mind so much, we figured it was their “Sphere of Influence.”

I don’t like seeing the Hitler card being used with Putin....Maybe the “Czar” card, but that’s a completely different thing.


24 posted on 04/17/2014 4:59:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Siegfried X
Wait, I thought Mahmoud Ahmedinejad was the next Hitler? Or was it the late Slobodan Milosevic? Or Saddam Hussein? Or Kim Jong Il?

Every few years the media gets in a tizzy about some new thug on the block -- and starts comparing them to Hitler. In reality, none of them have been anything like the actual Hitler. That goes for Putin as well.

25 posted on 04/17/2014 5:02:21 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Johnson nails it.

What would you want the United States to do? Invade Russia?

26 posted on 04/17/2014 5:04:22 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Siegfried X

Whether he is or he isn’t, one thing is clear - Obama intends to sit back and watch Putin’s moves with an idiot grin on his face and his thumb stuck up his *ss.

Obama’s only political activities these days are to aggregate political power within the US, persecute conservatives, and destroy the constitution.

Is it any wonder that Putin is thumbing his nose?


27 posted on 04/17/2014 5:09:25 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Siegfried X

He’s not even close.


28 posted on 04/17/2014 5:17:50 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Siegfried X

Wait and see how the persecution of Christians is executed in the West.


29 posted on 04/17/2014 5:19:33 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: Siegfried X

It appears to me at first glance that the majority of the people of Crimea and the whole Ukrane like being Russian and want to go back into the fold.

This is not Czechoslovakia or Poland This is more like Austria.


30 posted on 04/17/2014 5:22:53 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: x1stcav
I think the real question is Putin another Barak Obama?

He's not as bad as Obama in many respects.

Obama has dedicated himself to making war on his own country America.

Putin puts the well being and improvement of his country first.

We may not agree with Putin's views of what is good and what is not good but we cannot ignore the fact he is a patriot
any more than we can ignore the fact that Obama is not a patriot.

Putin shows love and pride in Russia.

Obama shows hate and embarrassment for America.


31 posted on 04/17/2014 5:28:55 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: bert

Mother of God, chase Putin away!

32 posted on 04/17/2014 5:29:19 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: Siegfried X

Depending on how one’s perspective, Putin could be WORSE than Hitler, if he ever decides to really ‘break bad’. I don’t think Putin would have the same foolish tendencies to commit military blunders that Hitler did.


33 posted on 04/17/2014 5:33:03 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Siegfried X
The Corporate Media labels the Globalist's latest Enemy-of-the-week the new Hitler.


34 posted on 04/17/2014 5:36:09 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Siegfried X

Russia has 100X more ‘Lebensraum’ than the tiny Russian people could ever use in a thousand years.


35 posted on 04/17/2014 5:41:07 AM PDT by DManA
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To: 4rcane
No, Putin is not a Hitler because he doesn’t hate the jews like the Ukraine government, US is supporting

YOU GET IT... thanks.

36 posted on 04/17/2014 5:42:25 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: G Larry
Wait and see how the persecution of Christians is executed in the West.

No need to wait... we see it everyday in the U.S. news... keyword search: homoagenda.

37 posted on 04/17/2014 5:44:28 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

They’re just pushing the “Putin is like Hitler” meme because they want to steer away from the idea that socialist/communist/leftist governments are evil and tyrannical.


38 posted on 04/17/2014 5:45:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Siegfried X

Last year our military spending was $640 billion
Russia spend $88 billion.

OHHHHH Scarrrry boys and girls.


39 posted on 04/17/2014 5:46:07 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Alter Kaker

Why would you think that would be the primary or only solution? I suspect you did not read the short article or consider Johnson’s argument.


40 posted on 04/17/2014 5:52:03 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Siegfried X
The war against 'weaker' nations the author refers to is being waged by the socialist EU, whose expansion over the past 25 years looks remarkably similar to that of Nazi Germany.

Without new territory to exploit the bureaucrats in Brussels know their failed nanny state economies will soon run out of other people's money to prop them up, and start to crumble. This process has already begun in places like Greece, Spain, Italy, and France.

It is ironic to see American conservatives cheerleading Europe's expansion efforts in this regard, rather than support the nascent European nationalist movements in Britain, France, Germany, who are trying to stop it.

41 posted on 04/17/2014 5:53:08 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Siegfried X

I have no respect for the West. I disagree with Paul Johnson. I would hardly consider second rate a country that is rebuilding itself and flexing its muscles in support of its national interests. Russia is behaving as a great power should.

President Putin’s goal is less to reconstruct the USSR than to restore Russia’s influence over its Near Abroad and to keep the West come from coming ever closer to Russia’s borders. No Russian leader would act any differently. And given that Russia is the world’s largest country, this was all but inevitable. The Soviet collapse was always going to be a temporary state of affairs.

No - Putin is not Hitler. He is not seeking to conquer the world or to engage in a rash empire-building project. Russia simply neither has the will nor the means to accomplish the feat. What Russia can do is gain respect as an equal on the world stage - this fact is in evidence before us today in Geneva. In Ukraine above all, the use of force on the part of Russia is a measure of the very last resort.

Its easy to imagine the historical parallels; but then there are also historical differences. And Johnson’s provincialism keeps him from seeing what the latter are.


42 posted on 04/17/2014 5:55:37 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Siegfried X

Hitler is a poor match. Putin is more along the lines of Bismark.


43 posted on 04/17/2014 6:01:02 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: MrB

Hitler was a Leftist.

The only difference between fascism, communism, monarchy, etc. is the justification for total state control.


44 posted on 04/17/2014 6:06:40 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

Understood,

but the left has perpetuated the idea that fascism is a “right wing” thing,

and that their precious communism couldn’t possibly be harmful in any way.


45 posted on 04/17/2014 6:09:00 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Siegfried X

I’d like to see Texas and California retain English as the spoken language, keep American culture predominant and prevent the influence of illegals from ruining the states. The way things are going now, they may become breakaway states soon.

That does not make me Hitler.


46 posted on 04/17/2014 6:10:01 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Siegfried X

More like another Stalin


47 posted on 04/17/2014 6:14:42 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: ArtDodger
Ditto---Ruby Ridge, Waco, Bundy Ranch. Way too many militarized alphabet bureaucracies going against citizens.

vaudine

48 posted on 04/17/2014 6:15:33 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Vaquero
This is not Czechoslovakia or Poland This is more like Austria.

I would even go so far to suggest that it's more like the Rhineland or the Saar.

49 posted on 04/17/2014 6:16:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Iron Munro

Never thought I’d see the day when I had more respect for a Russian leader than the ‘leader’ of the US.


50 posted on 04/17/2014 6:19:28 AM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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