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Oversight member on Lois Lerner: ‘Now I see why IRS is scared to give up emails’
daily caller ^ | 4-16-14 | Patrick Howley

Posted on 04/17/2014 4:37:40 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

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To: BuffaloJack

when a Lernerite does govt emailing on a govt computer on govt-paid time and in the performance of her duties issues orders and communicates work orders to other govt officials and employees, the resulting orders and documents are not “her” papers and effects, but the property of the government

and other agents of the govt properly tasked with oversight have the right to them on behalf of the govt, aka “we the people”

there is no “right to privacy” when issuing work orders to other govt emplyoes doing govt work

at least there wasn’t before obamites started using govt offices and employees as tools of their private and partisan power (IRS. HHS. EPA. Parks. BLM. DOJ. etc)


81 posted on 04/17/2014 6:21:25 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Every time a govt employee logs onto a govt computer for email, they have to approve a notice that they are being monitored and their activity is used and is usable by law enforcement. Even if there is private content, the employee surrenders privilege upon logging in.


82 posted on 04/17/2014 6:24:20 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: ArtDodger
“Yeah, yeah.. When will someone in a position to do something actually DO SOMETHING??”

EXACTLY! All I hear from “our side” is a constant stating and re-stating of the crime!

HELLO! Republican Idiots and Media Talking Heads...We are not STUPID! We have been paying attention!

We already know what happened! We don't need to constantly be told and re-told!

We want our CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to FREE SPEACH Protected!

We DEMAND Justice! Action!

It is not about what happened. It is now a QUESTION...What are you going to do about it?

83 posted on 04/17/2014 6:29:37 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

How is it that Judicial Watch can get these emails and the Congress of the United States cannot?


84 posted on 04/17/2014 6:37:22 AM PDT by wildbill (O)
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To: BuffaloJack
You probably think your work emails are your private property & belong to you too?

The government emails in question are not her private property, just like her government issued computer & desk are not her private property.

Those items belong to the taxpayer just like your work emails belong to the company you work for.

85 posted on 04/17/2014 6:43:48 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: BuffaloJack

I’ll give you benefit of the doubt then….call it category A: made a pre coffee post - someting we’ve all done…..


86 posted on 04/17/2014 6:49:12 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: BuffaloJack
Papers and effects covers emails and phone conversations.

Federal employees do not enjoy those protections using federal systems.

87 posted on 04/17/2014 6:56:36 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Orangedog

time to repeal the 17th Amendment... The parties have the control and know it... not the people.

Our current situation is the result of having a democracy and not a Republic. What has changed the game is the information age... what the parties could get away with 10 years ago they cannot today due to technology... Clinton’s Lewinsky situation and subsequent impeachment was the first shot across the bow... Government never moves at the speed of the economy it only tries to imped or slow it down.. Time to repeal the 17th amendment and restore the Republic!


88 posted on 04/17/2014 7:19:00 AM PDT by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

If you have to restore from backup, though, it can take a while. Especially when you consider it’s a government employee likely doing the work.


89 posted on 04/17/2014 7:23:06 AM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
"Does my employer have a right to look at my company emails?"

As a matter of fact, they do. They are also required by Federal Law to maintain copies or records of those e-mails.

90 posted on 04/17/2014 7:42:37 AM PDT by anoldafvet (If you think the government is capable of taking care of you, just look at the indian tribes)
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To: ratzoe

bossybitch@irs.gub


91 posted on 04/17/2014 7:56:05 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: BuffaloJack

Most transparent administration ever !


92 posted on 04/17/2014 7:57:38 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: MrB
Replacing the moths isn’t the answer. Busting out the porchlight is the answer.

Great analogy.

FMCDH(BITS)

93 posted on 04/17/2014 8:02:27 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: caver
“A lot of people are going down over this. And most importantly a choice for Barack Obama has to be made, resign or be impeached.”

I like your optimism, but it ain’t gonna happen.

If the full force of government, coordinated with multiple agencies, used against political enemies - if that's not enough to be outraged and go to the wall for, tell me what is?

94 posted on 04/17/2014 8:02:56 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Max in Utah
Too much power.

The IRS, Department of Justice, Bureau of Land Management, EPA, White House - they're all giddy with power. They are happy to take over people's land, water and resources and try to destroy them. The BLM shoots animals and destroys their resources, the FBI shoots the people they're questioning, the IRS tries to destroy political opposition groups, the DOJ protects thugs and attacks citizens, the Attorney General is charged with contempt and then threatens elected officials...the list goes on. When will it stop?

95 posted on 04/17/2014 8:12:49 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ilovesarah2012

Yes. And bears pooh in the woods.


96 posted on 04/17/2014 8:25:44 AM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: ladyjane

I agree with you but I don’t see any substantial outrage from the DC GOPe.


97 posted on 04/17/2014 8:38:21 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: BuffaloJack

Public school student or recent graduate? Whew.


98 posted on 04/17/2014 8:42:43 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: BuffaloJack

They are work emails from a government work account.

The emails are the work product of the U.S. Government and do not below ng to Lois Lerner.

As a government worker I can assure you the first thing you see when you log into your email...before you log in actually....is a paragraph worth if cautioning words explaining that your emails are not private, do not belong tk you, and are subject monitoring as well as public disclosure requests.

So no.....Lois Lerner is not entitled to any fourth ammendment protection covering her emails.

Does a congressional committee need to subpoena them to get them....probably....but Lois has no say in the matter.


99 posted on 04/17/2014 8:45:07 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (I am the Tea Party bully who took Mitch McConnell's milk money.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Not for a government employee or entity!


100 posted on 04/17/2014 9:07:37 AM PDT by SgtHooper (I lost my tag!)
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