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WHY THEY CALL IT DOPE: Harvard Scientists Studied the Brains of Pot Smokers
Clash Daily ^ | 17 April 2014

Posted on 04/17/2014 3:46:00 PM PDT by kingattax

Every day, the push toward national legalization of marijuana seems more and more inevitable. As more and more politicians and noted individuals come out in favor of legalizing or at least decriminalizing different amounts of pot, the mainstream acceptance of the recreational use of the drug seems like a bygone conclusion.

But before we can talk about legalization, have we fully understood the health effects of marijuana?

(Excerpt) Read more at clashdaily.com ...


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KEYWORDS: abortion; brain; cannabis; dopeheads; libertarians; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; pot; potheads
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“There is this general perspective out there that using marijuana recreationally is not a problem — that it is a safe drug,” said Anne Blood, a co-author of the study. “We are seeing that this is not the case.”
1 posted on 04/17/2014 3:46:00 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

All you have to do is look at Barry.


2 posted on 04/17/2014 3:47:43 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: kingattax

Conservatives have been saying this for a LONG time.

According to a new study published in the Journal of Neuroscience, researchers from Harvard and Northwestern studied the brains of 18- to 25-year-olds, half of whom smoked pot recreationally and half of whom didn’t. What they found was rather shocking: Even those who only smoked few times a week had significant brain abnormalities in the areas that control emotion and motivation.

Read more at http://clashdaily.com/2014/04/call-dope-harvard-scientists-studied-brains-pot-smokers/#w1KcZxXDeIc0sfGl.99

Now will the Pot Dope Heads Shut Up?


3 posted on 04/17/2014 3:55:56 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

It’s a good thing that alcohol is completely safe and has no harmful affects upon its users or society at large.


4 posted on 04/17/2014 3:58:13 PM PDT by research99
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To: kingattax

That explains why so many states are ‘legalizing’ pot and opening pot shops, (”medical marijuana”)

They need more shrunken-brained idiots walking around. They will demand services from the government, not hold a job, and vote democrat when they are lucid enough to check a box.


5 posted on 04/17/2014 3:58:33 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: I want the USA back

exactly. this is designed to be another nail in America’s coffin


6 posted on 04/17/2014 3:59:32 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: I want the USA back

“shrunken-brained idiots” AKA Democrat voters.


7 posted on 04/17/2014 4:01:41 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: kingattax
Let's get... small.
8 posted on 04/17/2014 4:04:41 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: research99
It’s a good thing that alcohol is completely safe and has no harmful affects upon its users or society at large.

Of course it's not, but we tried prohibiting it and look what happened.

9 posted on 04/17/2014 4:05:02 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: kingattax

A shift for Harvard, longtime bastion of the movement for dope for human advancement.

I guess as a sheeple conservative I’m supposed to think Harvard is a valid school based on the title of this study.


10 posted on 04/17/2014 4:06:53 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: kingattax

Seriously, if people want to bash themselves on their insteps repeatedly with claw hammers for fun, I am bound and determined to let them, and not care one whit if they cripple themselves.

There is not a single, legitimate argument that anyone can make that for some magical reason, they have the authority to make the hammer-bashers stop.

If it’s not your foot, and not your hammer, it is not your business. So butt out.


11 posted on 04/17/2014 4:08:39 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: kingattax

This study may be true and correct, but as to legalizing or not, I don’t suspect keeping it illegal will stop anybody from using it.


12 posted on 04/17/2014 4:11:53 PM PDT by umgud
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To: luvbach1
Prohibition did reduce drinking and drunkenness. It was repealed due to a massive PR campaign. Chicago is as corrupt and violent today as it was in Capone's time.
13 posted on 04/17/2014 4:12:21 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

But it is my business that when driving there is some idiot coming the other way saying out loud “Oh Man,” “Far Out,” “Like Wow!”


14 posted on 04/17/2014 4:14:01 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: kingattax

So still I ask: so what?


15 posted on 04/17/2014 4:14:11 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

not to be disrespectful, but i am fairly certain that when the winner of the ‘gee aren’t we clever’ award is announced, it won’t be you.


16 posted on 04/17/2014 4:14:44 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: kingattax

I used to work in drug rehab and noticed something interesting. Alcoholics or heroin junkies once they are gotten off their drug of choice tend to be less airheaded than most of the pot smokers I’ve known. Pot tends to stop any emotional development. My unscientific research says that this is why people in their 50s and 60s that still behave like children. Pot heads.


17 posted on 04/17/2014 4:15:22 PM PDT by Seruzawa (Get ready, little lady. Hell is coming to breakfast.)
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To: Seruzawa

Oh yeah, that doesn’t mean I think that the War on Drugs is justified. It’s just that the dangers of pot aren’t promoted much because it’s the politically correct drug. People should know the truth about drugs. All drugs.


18 posted on 04/17/2014 4:17:25 PM PDT by Seruzawa (Get ready, little lady. Hell is coming to breakfast.)
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To: kingattax; All
The states have never delegated to the feds, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate agricultural production. This is evidenced by the following excerpt.
”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited. None to regulate agricultural production is given, and therefore legislation by Congress for that purpose is forbidden (emphasis added).” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

In fact, the only reason that the feds had historically prohibited the production of intoxicating liquors was because the states had amended the Constitution, as evidenced by the 18th Amendment, to grant the feds the specific power to do so. But also note that the feds lost the power to prohibit intrastate alcohol production when the states ratified the 21st Amendment which repealed the 18th Amendment.

Getting back to the 10th Amendment-protected intrastate marijuana industry, the medical understanding of any bad effects of use of marijuana magnified by its widespread use have arguably been delayed by constitutionally indefensible interference with intrastate marijuana commerce by the corrupt feds imo.

Note that the individual states can regulate the intrastate production of anything that they want to, ultimately depending on what the legal majority voters of a given state want imo.

19 posted on 04/17/2014 4:23:31 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: All

what we need are more intoxicants.. free pot man.


20 posted on 04/17/2014 4:24:47 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Seruzawa

persistent marijuana users show neuropsychological decline as they age. numerous studies have supported that conclusion.


21 posted on 04/17/2014 4:24:57 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: I want the USA back
That explains why so many states are ‘legalizing’ pot and opening pot shops, (”medical marijuana”)
They need more shrunken-brained idiots walking around. They will demand services from the government, not hold a job, and vote democrat when they are lucid enough to check a box.

Correct! Anyone who is unable to connect the dots on this one must he high! On something!!!

22 posted on 04/17/2014 4:26:29 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: kingattax

That’s ok, thanks to socialized medicine and welfare the healthy can pay for all of these brain abnormalities.


23 posted on 04/17/2014 4:27:19 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: SandRat

I have to wonder, with all the monkeys in cages subjected to enormous amounts of marijuana smoke for years at a time in goverment labs, why none of those researchers ever noted brain changes in those subjects? are monkeys immune to the effects?


24 posted on 04/17/2014 4:28:06 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: research99

Studies have shown that moderate alcohol consumption yields some health benefits. The key is moderation.

This study on MJ seems to suggest that even a small amount of pot consumption can result in neurological damage.

These two things are neither equal or the same.


25 posted on 04/17/2014 4:28:58 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: kingattax

It’s probably behind the increasing popularity of conspiracy tales (paranoia).


26 posted on 04/17/2014 4:32:44 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: dennisw

Anyone who can’t see the advantages of liberty ought to be on something.


27 posted on 04/17/2014 4:33:09 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Carbonsteel
Barack Obama - Illegal Drugs - ThePoliticalGuide.com

www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/President/...Obama/.../Illegal_Drugs/‎

Jul 27, 2012 - President Obama has admitted that in his youth he used marijuana and ... stated that he "drank heavily" and "tried drugs enthusiastically." ... What the president said during the campaign, you'll be surprised to .... Amen to that!

28 posted on 04/17/2014 4:34:55 PM PDT by Dqban22
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To: research99

Hey bong man, we are discussing weed not alcohol.


29 posted on 04/17/2014 4:38:26 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DManA
Anyone who can’t see the advantages of liberty ought to be on something.

You must be correct because half the Ron Paul supporters are on something.... or behave like it

Our Founding Fathers would be mortified to find out that their "liberty" has been appropriated to mean "liberty to legally smoke marijuana"

30 posted on 04/17/2014 4:39:10 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: kingattax

Marijuana has many well-documented health benefits. It can also be abused, like anything else. It is especially dangerous to developing teenager brains.

Alcohol is many more times dangerous, however. And to deny the economic threat and resulting bias against it from pharmaceutical and chemical companies is inexcusable.

Overall, weed’s benefits vastly outweigh it’s threats FOR ADULTS, especially when compared with the daggers of alcohol and prescription anti-anxiety and antidepressant meds.

And that’s not even getting into what possible legal right the government has in deciding what a person can or cannot ingest. That old problem of freedom gets in the way over and over again.

You know what the difference is between someone who smokes weed, and someone who smokes weed and commits an injury against someone else while under the influence?

Everything.


31 posted on 04/17/2014 4:44:13 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: dennisw

Flashback: Obama’s Sordid High School Past

by Ben Shapiro 10 May 2012

Obama, by all accounts, was a habitual drug user in high school. He tried cocaine, he admits in Dreams From My Father; he “tried drugs enthusiastically.” The Chicago Tribune reported back in 2007 that Obama thanked the “Choom Gang” in his high school yearbook; “chooming” was Hawaiian slang for smoking pot. The Honolulu Advertiser reported that Obama’s senior portrait “prominently displayed … A package of ‘Zig-Zag’ rolling papers and a matchbook.” One of Obama’s close friends was arrested for drug possession during high school.

In his memoir, Obama talked about routinely getting high. “Junkie. Pothead,” he wrote. “That’s where I’d been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man.” But, according to Obama, he only got high because he was contemplating deep matters: drugs could “push questions of who I was out of my mind.”

The rest of Obama’s admitted past

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/05/10/Obama-High-School-Drugs


32 posted on 04/17/2014 4:45:33 PM PDT by Dqban22
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To: research99

Personally I think alcohol is way more detrimental than Pot.

But everybody handles themselves or reacts differently.

I know guys that “Wake and Bake” and are on top of their game. I’ve worked alongside of top exec’s from the CEO and all his top exec’s that smoked while running a multi-multi million dollar business. Well over $100 million in revenue.

Some people get paranoid and just want to chill, while others can get extraordinarily creative.

From my experience, alcohol may provide an initial boost of energy and creativity, but lends itself to mind numbing indifference.

There are a lot of really smart and creative people that are complete social misfits. With one or two drinks, they begin to feel comfortable in expressing themselves. Some can’t stop drinking.

Alcohol is highly addictive where as pot is not.

I’m old school, and recall “Lemmon 714’s”, drunk in a pill.

I recall buying dime bags of “Mexican” weed.

I recall “angel dust” (seriously F**ked up S**t)

I don’t smoke pot today, but would rather have access to pot than access to alcohol. Alcohol is evil. Vodka is really evil.

When someone smokes a joint, they don’t want another joint and another joint. That’s the difference.

Maybe it’s just me.


33 posted on 04/17/2014 4:46:01 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: dennisw

What the founders would understand is that it’s none of your business what someone else takes.


34 posted on 04/17/2014 4:47:40 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Zeneta

People do abuse alcohol it is true. But most people have a few drinks and that is it. They self moderate. Pot users on the other hand go for the full blown brain bake - every time. I have never seen someone just take one hit and say no more. They smoke the thing until it burns their fingers while some else is rolling another one.


35 posted on 04/17/2014 4:52:49 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DManA

As long as it is your teenager smoking it, I’m cool with it.


36 posted on 04/17/2014 4:53:34 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: kingattax

Weak are the worshippers of a weed. Looks like they’re brain damaged, too.


37 posted on 04/17/2014 4:54:54 PM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants his suicidal worshipers to become suicidal bombers.)
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To: central_va

What a crock. Nobody is advocating making pot legal for minors.


38 posted on 04/17/2014 4:55:04 PM PDT by DManA
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To: central_va

Pot users on the other hand go for the full blown brain bake - every time


Not true, from what I have experienced.


39 posted on 04/17/2014 4:56:26 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: SandRat
Now will the Pot Dope Heads Shut Up?

No more likely than whether welfare cheats might take a real job.

40 posted on 04/17/2014 4:57:02 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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To: DManA

If it is legal and uncle Jack, brother Tom and even Mom takes a hit now and then little Timmy will have NO inhibitions. FACT.


41 posted on 04/17/2014 4:58:11 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Crock.


42 posted on 04/17/2014 4:59:34 PM PDT by DManA
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To: kingattax

What was the question? I was listening to the Allman Brothers.


43 posted on 04/17/2014 5:00:07 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Don't tell me, I'll tell you.)
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To: DManA

Move to Colorado.


44 posted on 04/17/2014 5:00:26 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: luvbach1

It is also possible to drink 6 or 8 beers a week with no long term neurological issues.

The evidence is that even occasional pot use contributes to psychosis and PERMANENT intellectual impairment.

Anyone who has spent time around dopers knows they are often 6 bricks short of a load.A drunk can get sober and become a fairly normal person as stoner non-high still talks: “Like, uh, you know, I sorta think, well maybe, what was the question?” Even when they haven’t used for years.

At least that is my experience


45 posted on 04/17/2014 5:01:08 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: central_va

Mind your own business.


46 posted on 04/17/2014 5:01:24 PM PDT by DManA
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To: central_va

Here’s the difference.

The affects of alcohol take longer to be felt than the affects of pot.

As a result, the pot smoker is done, while the drinker has deluded himself that he can have more.


47 posted on 04/17/2014 5:02:08 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: blueplum
I have to wonder, with all the monkeys in cages subjected to enormous amounts of marijuana smoke for years at a time in goverment labs, why none of those researchers ever noted brain changes in those subjects? are monkeys immune to the effects?

Irrelevant: monkeys don't mind having monkeys on their backs. :)

48 posted on 04/17/2014 5:11:57 PM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants his suicidal worshipers to become suicidal bombers.)
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To: research99
It’s a good thing that alcohol is completely safe and has no harmful affects upon its users or society at large.

Of course not. Which is why these items should not be used by the under 18 year old crowd.

By adults is another matter.

49 posted on 04/17/2014 5:14:39 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Zeneta
Would you say that most people who use “pot” consume alcohol at the same time.?? That's the way a couple of my buddy's (60s hippies) operate...
50 posted on 04/17/2014 5:16:47 PM PDT by unread (Rescind the 17th. Amendment...bring the power BACK to the states...!)
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