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What Really Happed at the Bay of Pigs
Townhall.com ^ | April 19, 2014 | Humberto Fontova

Posted on 04/19/2014 5:24:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kackikat
"I think his cross dressing caused the man not to be taken seriously"

This is a bullsh!t rumor started by his left wing enemies. Please don't repeat here on a reputable conservative site like FR.

41 posted on 04/19/2014 9:26:20 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: Kaslin

JFK abandoned the Cubans on the beach to a waiting Castro. It was for him the better answer than canceling the operation.

He did essentially the same thing to Eisenhower’s Tibetans who were wiped out to the man. They died as their CIA handlers begged for ammo and an air drop.

He pulled Eisenhower’s team out of Viet Nam (the ones who had beat the communists in the Philippines) and turned it over to his Harvard brain trust, and murdered Diem.

The guy was a wrecking ball.


42 posted on 04/19/2014 9:27:48 AM PDT by marron
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To: Kackikat

thanks for the update. I had not heard that about another canal.


43 posted on 04/19/2014 9:30:57 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Kackikat
J. Edgar Hoover cross-dressing? Please cite your source for that one. A reputable source please and not some left-wing rag.

But even if he did like to wear women's clothing now and again, so what? Women wear men's clothing all the time and they are never criticized for it!

Anyway, I am convinced, absolutely convinced, that JFK was shot in Dallas as revenge for Bay of Pigs. We may never know how it happened, and who else was involved besides Oswald, but I'm pretty sure about the why.

44 posted on 04/19/2014 9:42:18 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Kaslin

Lee Jackson’s recent historical fiction novel, Curse of the Moon, starts with the invasion and lack of US support. A great novel.


45 posted on 04/19/2014 9:54:31 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: G Larry

Wasn’t RFK the motivating force?

This is not the first time the US has promised aid and bailed. Just ask Hungary in 1956!


46 posted on 04/19/2014 10:24:35 AM PDT by jayrunner
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To: SamAdams76

Hoover did cross-dress. Just ask his Live-In Boyfriend!

J. Edgar was one sick puppy.


47 posted on 04/19/2014 10:26:58 AM PDT by jayrunner
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To: Sequoyah101

Admiral Burke said to President Kennedy:

“The history never questions the winners; but always blame the losers”.


48 posted on 04/19/2014 11:25:30 AM PDT by Dqban22
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To: Kackikat

The Communist infiltration and take over of the State Department started with F.D. Roosevelt.

The Infiltration of the U.S. Government

Cliff Kincaid — November 6, 2012

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/the-infiltration-of-the-u-s-government/


49 posted on 04/19/2014 11:29:53 AM PDT by Dqban22
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To: joe fonebone

“this incident is what lead to castro requesting and giving permission to russia to place nukes on the island..

jfk did not solve the cuban missile crisis...

jfk CAUSED the cuban missile crisis...”

Worth repeating.

And not news to those of us who pay attention to what REALLY happens in the world.

Even back in the early 60s the news media was protecting the left.


50 posted on 04/19/2014 11:42:49 AM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: jayrunner

I suspect cowering from Kruschev threats


51 posted on 04/19/2014 12:44:19 PM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: Dqban22
A Beautiful Mediocrity: JFK was a so-so president, a deeply flawed man.

But he and Jackie sure cut a dashing image.

And image - with the right ideology - is enough for the MSM.

52 posted on 04/19/2014 2:02:11 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Dqban22

I was referring to the takeover of the Democrat Party and it’s agenda.....so yes you know of FDR and State Dept, but not my reference for this comment.


53 posted on 04/19/2014 2:09:11 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: SamAdams76

http://edgar-hoover.tripod.com/

http://jezebel.com/5690562/tim-gunn-saw-j-edgar-hoover-cross-dress

Clyde Tolson Relationship w/ Hoover paragraph at bottom:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clyde_Tolson

Excerpt from Anthony Summers book on J Edgar Hoover:

“Mr. Kessler is the author of a new book on the FBI, The Bureau: The Secret History of the FBI, available from Amazon.com. In 1993, Anthony Summers, in his book Official and Confidential: The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover, claimed that Hoover did not pursue organized crime because the Mafia had blackmail material on him. In support of that, Summers quoted Susan L. Rosenstiel, a former wife of Lewis S. Rosenstiel, chairman of Schenley Industries Inc., as saying that in 1958, she was at a party at the Plaza Hotel where Hoover engaged in cross-dressing in front of her then-husband and Roy Cohn, former counsel to Senator Joe McCarthy.”He [Hoover] was wearing a fluffy black dress, very fluffy, with flounces and lace stockings and high heels, and a black curly wig,” Summers quoted Susan as saying.”He had makeup on and false eyelashes.”[1] - “

We know of J Edgar Hoover accomplishments, however, we all need to learn to separate the achievements of a person from their personal life, because people will surprise you, and put political parties aside in judging whether that item is truth or not.

There were just too many people who knew about him and Tolson. Of course, he kept the cross dressing as secretly as possible, Hoover was the FBI Leader. Note in Tolson bio that he inherited all of Hoover’s estate. That is not insignificant.


54 posted on 04/19/2014 2:14:01 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Dqban22
— for example, his opposition to civil-rights legislation when he believed its passage would strengthen the Republican president proposing it.

Ike doesn't get the Civil Rights credit that he deserves.

55 posted on 04/19/2014 3:05:16 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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"And the restoration of the Panama Canal to the Panamanians...1999?, I think...and wanted by the UN now. There has been discussion of a new canal through Nicaragua, but with the earthquakes last week, who knows?"

Earthquakes and volcanos is why the French chose Panama in the first place.

56 posted on 04/19/2014 3:23:05 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: fella

That makes sense.


57 posted on 04/19/2014 4:46:11 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: 353FMG

No, UF Gator.


58 posted on 04/19/2014 6:21:02 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Dqban22

31 Knot Burke.

He was a decisive leader in the War. He gave standing orders to engage any enemy spotted without further direction from himself.

Leyte Gulf? And other places of course.

Like Nimitz, he was an accomplished engineer.

94 years of an honorable life by all accounts. The man had determination in his eyes. Funny how you can almost always see it in these guys when they were young.


59 posted on 04/19/2014 7:54:13 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Nailbiter; BartMan1

ping


60 posted on 04/19/2014 9:27:08 PM PDT by IncPen (When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
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