I've come to believe all the TLA US agencies are coordinating to accomplish that.
Posted on 04/19/2014 5:45:13 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
Officials from nine Western states met in Salt Lake City on Friday to discuss taking control of federal lands within their borders on the heels of a standoff between Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management.
The lawmakers and county commissioners discussed ways to wresting oil-, timber- and mineral-rich lands away from the feds. --snip--
"What's happened in Nevada is really just a symptom of a much larger problem," Lockhart said, according to The Salt Lake Tribune.
The Legislative Summit on the Transfer of Public Lands, as it was called, was organized by Utah state Rep. Ken Ivory and Montana state Sen. Jennifer Fielder. Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, addressed the group over lunch, the Tribune reported.
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jet fuel is kerosene,not even a good grade at that.
I just disagree with the assumption that NV must pay to gain control over the 81% of the state now under control of the Feds. First, where will the money come from? State taxpayers? IMO the goal should be return of most of the federal land to the states without any requirement to purchase it. Is that too much to ask?
Right now, the federal government can sell or lease land to individuals and private investors. The feds have a vested interest in keeping this property and realizing any gains from it.
Federal Land Transaction Facilitation Act Public Law 106-248
The Federal Land Transaction Facilitation Act (FLTFA), Public Law 106-248, became law on July 25, 2000. It provides for the sale of public lands identified for disposal under land use plans in effect as of the date of enactment. The revenue generated from FLTFA sales is split between the respective State (4%) for educational purposes or for the construction of public roads, and a special account (96%) available to the Secretary of the Interior and the Secretary of Agriculture for acquisition of land in certain federally designated areas, and for administrative expenses necessary to carry out the sale program.
The FLTFA expired on July 24, 2010. On July 29, 2010, Congress passed an emergency supplemental appropriations bill to extend FLTFA for one year. Because of the break in FLTFA’s authority, the BLM lost all unspent funds for sale processing generated during the first ten years. The administration and sales account is slowly being rebuilt through deposits of revenue from land sale and exchange of public lands since July 24, 2010.
Public Law 111-11
On March 30, 2009, President Obama signed into law an omnibus lands bill that enhances protection for public lands administered by the BLM across the West. The Omnibus Public Lands Management Act (P.L. 111-11), authorized the sale of BLM-administered lands within the Boise District in Ada, Adams, Boise, Canyon, Elmore, Gem, Owyhee, Payette, Valley, and Washington Counties, Idaho and the St. George Field Office in Washington County, Utah.
Southern Nevada Public Land Management Act of 1998 - Public Law 105-263 (No doubt Harry Reid wrote this bill to help himself and his cronies)
The Southern Nevada Public Land Management Act (SNPLMA) of 1998, Public Law 105-263, became law in October 1998. It allows the BLM to sell public land within a specific boundary around Las Vegas, Nevada. A key provision of the law is that money generated by these land sales remains in Nevada. The money provides funding for a variety of land management activities emphasizing recreation sites. Up to 85% of the funds received may be used for:
Acquisition of environmentally sensitive land in the State of Nevada, with priority given to lands located within Clark County;
Capital improvements at the Lake Meade National Recreation area, the Desert National Wildlife Refuge, the Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area and the Spring Mountains National Recreation Area (subject to an annual limitation);
Development of a multi-species habitat conservation plan in Clark County; and
Development of parks, trails, and natural areas in Clark County.
Other provisions in the SNPLMA direct certain land sale and acquisition procedures, direct the BLM to convey title of land in the McCarran Airport noise zone to Clark County, and provide for the sale of land for affordable housing.
The Chinese are salivating and probably deals are already in place for them to have those lands.
Also bear in mind the plans of UN Agenda 21. Confiscate all public lands, herd the population into “population centers,” put “green corridors” between them and restrict travel and access to those green corridors.
If this sounds crazy, please do some reading on it. For those who are not aware and up to speed on this topic, here is a thread a number of freepers participated in for over a year studying this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2863065/posts
Post 128 of the thread contains a summary of a bit of history and what it is all about, plus reading references.
I've come to believe all the TLA US agencies are coordinating to accomplish that.
“We could sell most of that land, pay off the debt and still have money left over.”
Who’s we kimosabe? That land is held in trust. The Feds don’t “own” it. They need to have “control of it” it taken from them as has been proposed previously in this post. Then the states can individually decide how to utilize it. Making it productive would reduce the states debt and make it possible for the Feds to get out from under their “subsidizing” the states with federally collected tax money. The only problem for the feds will be that they will loose their “management cut” from the federal taxes they’ve been collecting so they could re-dole it out back to those who paid it. Federal taxes are the biggest ponzu scheme I’ve ever seen.
I think that is a plausible assumption. Thanks for the map.
How many acres?
I’ve sold mineral rights as well.
This has a snowballs chance in hell under the present administration. However, with a Republican Congress and President, this could happen.
The founders of our Republic would be appalled at the size and power of the Federal Government. They were afraid of this and this is why the Constitution of the United States is mostly restraints on the Federal Government. It clearly states what powers the Federal Government. It gives all the other powers to the respective states as outlined in the tenth amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
The Federal government is clearly operating in an unconstitutional manner on many fronts. The only reason they can do this is a judiciary that is politicized.
i watched it all very intresting,but he said rocket fuel not jet fuel,i don’t know what’s in rocket fuel,but jet fuel is #2 diesel.i pumped a lot of it in planes when i was in the navy.but i liked the video.
My mistake transferred terms in my no- caffeine memory
Constitutional amendment?
Really thought that one out didn'tcha?
The loons that think amending the constitution will fix things are forgetting what got us here - the federal gov't not adhering to the constitution, and the states allowing it.
Until something reigns in the gov't, you can amend all you want, but it won't change squat.
that’s ok my photo memory sometimes runs out of film too.
Lol
“I just disagree with the assumption that NV must pay to gain control over the 81% of the state now under control of the Feds. First, where will the money come from? State taxpayers? IMO the goal should be return of most of the federal land to the states without any requirement to purchase it. Is that too much to ask?”
With 17 trillion dollars in federal dept that is a bit of a pipe dream. As for who pays for it, that is easy to answer, anyone who wants it.
The State Government don’t need to own the land, as long as its not owed by the Federal Government the State can get tax revenue from it meaning anyone who does own the land won’t be able to horde it, or if they do they will at least pay the locals in taxes for the privilege.
That means if Chinese business interest want it let them buy the title, and do what every they want as long as its legal under the State and local law. This is no different then them owning any other piece of property in the USA.
Not one Nevada Tax payer dime needs to be spent, but trillions of tax payer dollars will be collected.
“Right now, the federal government can sell or lease land to individuals and private investors.”
That is the point, they can’t or rather they wont generally sell or lease the land, as they had prior to the 1970’s. Yes there are exceptions such as the acts you specified, often corrupt exceptions as Senator Harry Reid demonstrated.
Is this COWS— Coalition Of Western States?
If we stick together maybe we won’t be filling theses BLM mass Graves after all:
http://www.tpnn.com/2014/04/17/creepy-blm-leaves-behind-mass-grave-for-cattle/
And a poor source at that. The 'BLM Whistleblower' is not someone I would rely on for much of anything...'It's on the internet, so it must be true'.
He's rambling, on the verge of incoherence. I watched it yesterday and was not impressed, quite the opposite. As I recall he referred to the mineral as used in the production of rocket fuel, which is correct, not jet fuel which is a petroleum product.
The Federal government decides whether it wants to sell the property or not. It already sells property to private individuals. I would rather have the states make that decision rather than the BLM, which has all kinds of restrictions on land use.
Just because the Feds are $17 trillion in debt (meaning us) doesn't mean that the money must flow back into their coffers to waste on social welfare programs as well as fraud and abuse.
The State Government don’t need to own the land, as long as its not owed by the Federal Government the State can get tax revenue from it meaning anyone who does own the land won’t be able to horde it, or if they do they will at least pay the locals in taxes for the privilege.
Someone has to own the land, much of it not able to be sold to individuals or corporations. Again, the states can own the land and then sell it to whomever they want free from the federal government's edicts and restrictions.
That is the point, they can’t or rather they wont generally sell or lease the land, as they had prior to the 1970’s. Yes there are exceptions such as the acts you specified, often corrupt exceptions as Senator Harry Reid demonstrated.
Which is why it must be removed from federal control. Alaskans would like to pump oil out of ANWR. The Feds control 61% of the state's land. Why should environmentalists from New York control what Alaskans want to do? The closer we can move these assets to local control the better. Congress and the WH can change this if there is the political will. Why should we accept the status quo as a given? Is it because it is the law of the land? That doesn't seem to stop Obama.
Why would we in Nevada want the Chinese to own 80+% of our state, with all the gold, silver, copper and rare earth minerals under ground? They would put up fences denying any access and destroy the ground and send our riches to China. I believe it should be under State control with no payment not used to pay off federal debt to foreign nations.
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