Posted on 04/19/2014 9:10:43 AM PDT by ponygirl
Edited on 04/19/2014 9:19:27 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Because I have conflicted info on that. The Morrell Act said increments of 40 acres. I've seen some say a quarter of a section or 160 acres. Walter Prescott Webb in his book on settling the west said 360 or 180 acres.
Any of these numbers are small numbers when you consider that it takes a 100 or more acres to graze one head in these western lands. Spanish and Mexican land grants were in the 100s of thousands of acres. Texas disposed of her lands and created very large ranches.
I'm interested in any sources you have on that.
Sorry, I’m really not a scholar or a serious student for that matter.
There was a book a few years ago about the lead surveyor and the issues at the time. That’s as far as I’ve read.
The Fabric of America
http://www.amazon.com/Fabric-America-Andro-Linklater-ebook/dp/B002STNB7U/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1397946099&sr=1-1&keywords=Fabric+of+America
Wrong about what?
Bundy's confrontation was planned well in advance. His militia was extensive and came from many states, and they came ahead of time. They were there when BLM arrived to seize the cattle, and they were itching for a firefight.
BTW, with all your vast lawyering skills and license, can you give me the legal argument on the prescriptive easement
I’m not a scholar either. I read Webb’s book, The High Plains, 20 years ago(pre-internet days). It was published in the 30s but is still considered an authoritative source and is still in print at U of Nebraska Bison Press because many western colleges use it as a textbook.
I like history but I’m all over the map from Rome to the current time. Someone bought me this book as a gift. It was an interesting read. There was another book about Mason-Dixon about 10 years ago. A best seller I think.
Now reading The Hour Of Peril about the plot to kill Lincoln at the Baltimore train station on his way from Springfield to the first inauguration.
I guess my interest is like pieces of a jig saw puzzle. Some day all of it will come together, in chronological order, I hope.
Wrong about the States not wanting the land. I go one further. I want the Counties to be the ones to manage their own land.
After Congress enacted FLPMA there was a push led by Orrin Hatch, but it never went anywhere.
I don't mean to criticize you but you are missing a sense of scale. Among more than 71,000 lease holders the problems are mainly minor and very, very few in number. Kooks and malcontents like Bundy don't come along very often . These grazers recognize that they are getting a very good deal and it is easy to "bend" the rules and regs to their benefit.
Collectively, over 25,000 individuals now work as armed agents of federal agencies not usually associated with law enforcement. These are not just guards. These agents go out on raids to enforce the orders of federal bureaucracies. No bureaucracy should have a private army to enforce its orders against the American people.
Outside of law enforcement, federal agencies now employ over 25,000 people as armed agents. They are more than guards. They’ve become like private armies that can push around private citizens. Over 70 non-military federal agencies now have their own armed agents.
One expects armed agents with the FBI, the U.S. Marshal Service and the Border Patrol.
But an armed EPA, Fish & Wildlife Service, Bureau of Land Management, even the Social Security Administration and the National Institutes of Health?
The Department of Education and the Department of Housing and Urban Development have their own armed agents. As do the Food and Drug Administration. And Veterans Affairs, the Government Printing Office, the National Zoo, and the Library of Congress
Best news of the year. Go Matt Shea.
When that access is denied, it is difficult to extract and develop the wealth and industry needed to pay off that debt.
Working hand in hand with that branch of the Federal Government is another, making it increasingly difficult to develop privately owned resources, be those agricultural, mineral, or energy, even timber.
When the engine of our debt stifles that which would remove that debt, it becomes apparent that the entire purpose is not to run the United States free of debt, but to ensure it is in thrall to its creditors.
Those who use the land and rely on it to make a living are generally far better stewards of that land than those who draw a paycheck to just 'guard' it. Often the former have been on the land for generations and have the knowledge of it accumulated by multiple generations of observation, as opposed to someone who just got there with a belly full of theories and no practical experience.
I am an active member of that group. We do want our land back and we will get our land back,
Good idea, as long as the feds don’t sell it to the Chinese, or other foreign interests. American citizens only.
They are in everything from your toilet tank to your light bulbs to the low spot in the back yard that makes a puddle when it rains. But despite that, they can't close the border (which is their job).
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