Skip to comments.Martial Law: Obama Confiscates National Guard Helicopters From All 50 States
Posted on 04/19/2014 1:33:21 PM PDT by lbryce
As if the Obama administration's purchase of more than 2 billion rounds of ammunition, and nearly 3,000 urban tanks, along with their unprecedented (and highly illegal) domestic spying program was not enough to convince you that the federal government is about to suspend the Constitution once and for all, the man who once vowed to run "the most transparent administration in history" has just rather inexplicably, ordered the U.S. Army to seize every Apache attack helicopter currently in use by the National Guard.
In all, the Defense Department will confiscate 192 Apaches from National Guard units around the country and give them to the active duty Army.
In exchange for the heavily armed and highly maneuverable choppers, Guard units will receive 111 UH-60 Blackhawk transport helicopters from the Army, Defense One reports.
Last week, U.S. Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee, claiming that the measure will save taxpayers $12 billion, over the next three years.
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With the recent, attempted seizure of the Bundy family ranch in Nevada by more than 200 armed federal officers, including many snipers, we know that the Obama administration is not afraid to use force against the American people. I would have to consider the confiscation of these helicopters a worrisome move. (gulp!)
Can’t we just call it a “Recall” for repairs? That’s the ticket for liberals.
It just wouldn’t do for the militia to have
apache choppers in the line up.
Why does the National Guard need Apaches?
Can’t have the plumbers, rodeo clowns and arrowhead collectors shooting BACK, now can we...?
The Examiner isn’t a real anything, and nobody confiscated anything.
Moving things from active to Guard and vice-versa is a normal activity.
The question to me is where are these Apaches going to go. Obviously the military does not need them right now.
What 3,000 "tanks"?
And why is saving 12 billion dollars a bad thing?
Here is a Heritage Foundation article, a source better than this nutcase.
The Heritage Foundation:
Congress Should Avert Delays in the Armys Aviation Restructuring Plans
“The Armys decision to transfer AH-64 Apache helicopters from the National Guard to the active force has sparked a debate that ultimately concerns the roles, missions, and contributions of these ground components. Congress should prevent unnecessary delays in the implementation of these plans while making a stronger commitment to providing the resources that the armed forces need to maintain national security.”
“Congress should support the Armys efforts to rebalance its assets in a way that benefits both active and Guard components. This can be done by resisting attempts to slow the plan from being executed as quickly as possible while also striving to fund the requirements of the Army and other services more robustly.
Win-Win for Active Army and National Guard
As proposed, the Armys Aviation Restructure Concept will transfer all of the Guards 192 AH-64 Apache attack helicopters to the active component and 15 percent of the active components UH-60 Blackhawk utility helicopters to the Guard and Reserve.”
Because many National Guard Units are combat unit. Combat units which have been deployed many times to combat zones.
Combat units are supposed to have organic assets so it can train/deploy as a unit to be effective in combat.
Medical, artillery, signal, transportation. logistics, engineers and yes - rotary wing ground attack air units.
The National Guard is the Wal-Mart of national defense.
If the federal government was serious about saving money, they’d let the states keep the Apaches and give them the other helicopters too.
I recall the then standard response to a logical question from the Army since Washington’s command: “Good Training.”
They have them for the reserve/National Guard pilots that fly them when they are activated as they were for Afghanistan and Iraq. The state guard units and reserve units have all the same equipment that the active forces have.
Yep. The National Guard does the same job for about 1/3 the cost. If they really wanted to be constitutional and save money, they would slash the active duty and build up the Guard. No need to have such a large active duty if you stay within the bounds of the constitution and stay out of every wild fire in the world.
> In exchange for the heavily armed and highly maneuverable choppers, Guard units will receive 111 UH-60 Blackhawk transport helicopters from the Army, Defense One reports.
Moving things from active to Guard and vice-versa is a normal activity.
Why'd you have to show up and ruin a perfectly good conspiracy theory? Doncha know those Apaches were for the FEMA camps?
Aren’t NG units deployed in combat situations? I know the 69th NY has been deployed at least twice to Iraq. These units are expected to fit seamlessly into the Toe of their operations command. How does transferring the Apache sustain a unit’s ability to perform it’s mission? I really don’t want to go all tinfoil here but 30 years ago ABC did a mini series called Amerika. The Soviets had taken over using EMPs.They divided the nation into five zones and allowed each zone a locally raised guard, but much less well armed than the US troops that were the true occupying force.A poorly armed militia is a scary thought.
I know Michigan didn’t pay for the A-10s and other military aircraft stationed at Selfridge ANG base.
When they say saving the taxpayers they could give a F about us. They lie! If we “THE AMERICAN CITIZEN” are labeled as a domestic terrorist they are treasonist bastards who should be sent to the gallows
That’s because they have features that are not strictly for Sporting Purposes.
Uh, 'cause plenty of NG Troops are shipped overseas to do the job the Regular Army used to do all of?
Can anyone say, "Vulnerable DHS MRAPs"?
Obviously 0b0z0 & Holder know on whose side the National Guard will stand when it hits the fan. And they expect that time to be soon.
Now might be a good time to establish good contact with your friends, relatives, and colleagues who are now on active duty... 0b0z0 may have "turned" some of their leaders, but the troops mostly despise him and all he stands for...
The national guard is almost like the army reserve.
They train on apache’s. Most of the national guard have served at least some time in iraq and afghanistan.
I think the guard also trains on abrams tanks.
Our local NG group has been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan several times over the last 13 years or whatever it is. (246th Transportation Battalion - Jackson, MI)
The obvious answer is that our president intends to be presidnet for life.
For the first time I'm starting to believe that obama intends to rule our nation by force as a dictator.
Kind of scary the way this is all going. When you add in how he has purged the military leadership it is all starting to become very clear.
I do not want this to happen and I hate how this is all playing out but that is where logic takes us.
Now it is not too hard to see where all the ammunition has been going the last couple of years. They have succeeded in keeping the vast majority out of the hands of the populace. That was their goal. The important question is not where it whet, but where it did not go.
Add it up folks, it isn't looking good.
'cause the Navajo's can't cut it?
The Army is doing a huge aviation reorganization. One of the things they are doing is getting rid of Kiowas. They are going to try to do the scout role with Apaches instead. Yeah, I know that is two totally different classes of helicopters, but that is their story. Sounds like they want to park all their TH-57s and replace them with Lakotas, as well. That is another head scratcher when it comes to saving money.
In addition, why is Obama bringing all the tanks from Germany home? They are giving tanks to very small towns who have no need of them, seems ridiculous.
Which small town, or big city, has received a “tank”?
This to me looks like a way to keep from buying additional choppers by dipping into the reserves.
After a generation of sand wars etc. we may be that depleted in material and money. Our resources are as frail as our liberty.
What about the crews? Will htey be transferred to active duty, retrained as Blackhawk pilots, or pushed out of guard service?
Brevard, NC among others.
Hey...why not, and just why are they giving these tanks to small towns....future plans?
Simple, open the armories.
These helicopters are but a small piece.
I'd druther face 192 of them than 10mil very angry American men with good rifles.
The National Guard is intended to do a lot of our war fighting, don’t let the Vietnam war when Reserve losses approached 6,000 and Guard losses close to a 100 mislead you into thinking that was normal, in WWII for instance you would be amazed at all the National Guard divisions.
Alter or abolish it. We’ve drifted under globalists for an entire generation now, all to the detriment of America and Americans outside the Beltway.
I call BS on your claim.
The NG should be on the Southern Border with effective RoE's.
I’m a little surprised to hear the National Guard has Apaches too.
Those vehicle aren't being taken away from troops that need them or areas that need them.
They do? We have Airborne units in the Guard, but which one can replace the 82nd Airborne Division with a days, or a years notice?
Add your name to the pledge to impeach. Of course, they’ll come for us first. :)
Then they would still be on active duty, and away from their homes and jobs and families, which is fine with me, but many on this thread don't like that idea.
They fly A-10 Thunderbolts and now KC-135 Stratotankers out Of Selfridge ANG base near Detroit.