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New Port Richey soldier says squatters won't leave his home.
WFLA ^ | Posted: Apr 21, 2014 9:58 AM CST | Shannon Behnken

Posted on 04/22/2014 11:50:44 AM PDT by ronnyquest

NEW PORT RICHEY, FL (WFLA) -

When soldier Michael Sharkey was deployed to Afghanistan two years ago, he asked a friend to watch over his New Port Richey house. Sharkey and his wife are now living in Hawaii where he is currently stationed. They plan to move back into their New Port Richey home someday. But, right now they are fighting to get their house back.

They say strangers broke in, changed the locks, moved in and they refuse to leave.

"I want the people out," said Sharkey. "They're criminals living in my house."

Sharkey was shocked to find out that the Pasco County Sheriff's Office says it can't do anything about the squatters.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: castledoctrine; criminals; florida; latino; soldierrights
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Ortiz says he has permission to be in the house, just not from Sharkey, the home's owner. Ortiz says he doesn't need a lease because he has a "contract." He described this contract as a verbal agreement with a friend of the soldier to fix up the home, in exchange for living there rent free. ---------------------------- Permission to be there, just not from the person who matters--the owner. So, I wonder who gave this fellow permission. Ortiz had a plan, but never bothered to check with the owner regarding whether or not said plan was acceptable. Does anyone else see something wrong here?
1 posted on 04/22/2014 11:50:44 AM PDT by ronnyquest
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To: ronnyquest

If mine it might catch fire.


2 posted on 04/22/2014 11:53:36 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: ronnyquest

Isn’t there a criminal tresspass complaint that could be filed? Even if this dude actually has a contract (yeah - right), then it’s clearly invalid.


3 posted on 04/22/2014 11:54:49 AM PDT by alancarp
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To: ronnyquest
Someone needs to be Unfriended
4 posted on 04/22/2014 11:55:05 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: ronnyquest

Hire a few unsavory types (with cash) to go and beat the tar out of Ortiz with baseball bats. If law enforcement is not going to do anything and we are quickly sliding into a lawless society, why follow the law?


5 posted on 04/22/2014 11:55:45 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: ronnyquest

Home invasions that result in the death of the attacker and no perp found are on the rise....


6 posted on 04/22/2014 11:56:20 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: ronnyquest

When we were in Seattle, we saw an intersting Craigslist scam. People in Nigeria (probably) would identify a local home that was vacant, via for sale ads, etc. And then offer it for rent (or even for sale). Often the tenant would continue paying them rent, only to find out when the owner returned that they had no contract. Typically the rent was pretty cheap, too.

We found out about this when we found a place that was way too cheap. I discovered the practice when I googled the ad. It happens a lot where I live now (KY) regarding used cars.


7 posted on 04/22/2014 11:56:56 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: ronnyquest

My law firm of Smith & Wesson LLC says “you’re evicted.”


8 posted on 04/22/2014 11:58:02 AM PDT by W.Lee (After the first one, the rest are free.)
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To: ronnyquest

The Sheriff can’t do anything but I would.


9 posted on 04/22/2014 11:58:14 AM PDT by sigzero
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To: Ghost of SVR4

No, make another contract with a biker to live there with his guard dogs.


10 posted on 04/22/2014 12:04:15 PM PDT by dila813
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To: ronnyquest
There are civil actions that can be taken.

These situations are even worse in place like NYC, for example.

In NC, if someone moves on to a piece of land, sets up house - even builds, and their occupation goes unchallenged for 17 years, the squatters can establish a clear title. - When I was much younger, such an idea seemed untenable, but 17 years no longer seems quite so much time, any longer. LOL.

11 posted on 04/22/2014 12:04:28 PM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: ronnyquest

Physically throw them and their sh•t out of the house. Change the locks and buy a gun and pit bull. Let the moochers hire a lawyer to get their “house” back....


12 posted on 04/22/2014 12:05:32 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: ronnyquest

I’m sure there are more than a few motorcycle ‘groups’ who would gladly fix this ‘problem’......................


13 posted on 04/22/2014 12:06:14 PM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
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To: dila813

And baseball bats. :)


14 posted on 04/22/2014 12:08:19 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

A neighbor of mine had a girlfriend. I hate this guy, a scumbag. Anyway, he pissed off his girlfriend so she came back one night when she knew he was away. Jumped the fence to his backyard, and stuck a garden hose through the kitchen window. Major flood issue; can’t live there until fixed. You got varmints, flush them out.


15 posted on 04/22/2014 12:09:51 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Red Badger

Buy the squatters a dog then call the police and let nature take its course.


16 posted on 04/22/2014 12:10:46 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ronnyquest

I think the Sheriff is wrong. ALL deals having to do with property must be in writing, not verbal. Ortiz’ contract is verbal and also is to fix up the house not to live in it. So, he is wrong on two accounts it is verbal and gives him no living rights on the property. He is committing criminal trespass and that is not a civil matter. Dam law enforcement doesn’t even know the laws anymore, but they sure know how to use force against innocent people. The old protect and serve is really out the window when these people who own the property need their property protected but the sheriff refuses.


17 posted on 04/22/2014 12:11:35 PM PDT by falcon99
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To: Resolute Conservative

Accidents happen. That’s what insurance is for.


18 posted on 04/22/2014 12:12:52 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: ronnyquest

Walk in shooting.


19 posted on 04/22/2014 12:12:54 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: ronnyquest

Well Ohio has castle doctrine so I`d come home, and finding intruders in my home, shoot them.


20 posted on 04/22/2014 12:13:18 PM PDT by nomad
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To: ronnyquest
Shut off the water and power and stand guard. They have to leave eventually. Call a bonded locksmith and have the police/sheriff do a "civil standby" while you extract the cretins from your property. The "civil standby" provides a law enforcement presence to supervise the extraction so you have no false accusations.
21 posted on 04/22/2014 12:15:05 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: ronnyquest

So he’s a smoker, strong Mexican accent, unsavory looking as can be. These are the times when a judge should take one look at the perp, another at the actual owner and say... Sheriff, serve Ortiz papers and get him out.


22 posted on 04/22/2014 12:15:43 PM PDT by albie
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To: sigzero

“The Sheriff can’t do anything but I would.”

Yeah, but he will sure as hell prevent you from doing anything either.


23 posted on 04/22/2014 12:16:02 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: falcon99
I think the Sheriff is wrong.

You may or may not be correct about that, but as a practical matter if the Sheriff doesn't want to do his job, you don't have a lot of recourse. I suppose you could start a recall petition....

24 posted on 04/22/2014 12:16:42 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: ronnyquest

Isn’t a verbal contract, tenant at will, which means at both the will of the tenant and the will of the owner, and if either one says “Time to move.” the tenant has to move?


25 posted on 04/22/2014 12:18:26 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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the Pasco County Sheriff's Office says it can't do anything about the squatters.

Anyone want to bet that Ortiz the Squatter is also Ortiz the illegal alien?

26 posted on 04/22/2014 12:19:00 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: W.Lee

“My law firm of Smith & Wesson LLC says “you’re evicted.””

We’re on the same page, except I employ an Austrian law firm I am shure you know. Messrs. Sig Sauer & Co. They have U.S. offices in Exeter, NH!


27 posted on 04/22/2014 12:19:12 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: ronnyquest

Soldier made a big mistake picking the wrong friend to watch the house. However, the friend would need a contract to extend to the squatter.

If there wasn’t a contract, there would be when I got there. Just sayin’.


28 posted on 04/22/2014 12:21:33 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: ronnyquest

It’s my house and there are people living in it? I am not understanding this “there isn’t anything we can do about it.” Break the door down and move in?


29 posted on 04/22/2014 12:22:35 PM PDT by mom.mom
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To: This I Wonder32460

No. If the soldier told the friend to “take care of the house”, the friend could have interpreted that as “Rent it out for me”.


30 posted on 04/22/2014 12:22:55 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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My law firm of Smith & Wesson LLC says “you’re evicted.”

I use Ted Kennedy's law firm....

WineHer, DineHer, DickHer & DunkHer

31 posted on 04/22/2014 12:24:24 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: mom.mom

That’s called “breaking and entering” if the contract doesn’t state that the owner is allowed to do so. BTDT.

The easiest thing to do is make the squatter want to leave and leave quickly.


32 posted on 04/22/2014 12:24:25 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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This is crazy. You can't just move into someone’s home and claim it.

If you can, there are a lot of mansion in Palm beach I am interested in, and I know are mostly vacant during the hot summer months.

I'll just make up the same ridiculous story about a verbal contract and leave some paint brushes lying around.

If there isn't more to this story we don't know, then it sounds like the sheriff is incompetent.

33 posted on 04/22/2014 12:24:39 PM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (I don't even know what to say anymore...)
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To: vette6387
I have Colt, Garrand, Browning, Springfield & Enfield on retainer.
34 posted on 04/22/2014 12:24:57 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: alancarp

They do have to bring an action for possession of the property (unlawful detainer) to get them out with the help of the law. They can also swear out a complaint for criminal trespass. Self help with force would subject the owners to arrest. It’s a pain but that’s the truth.

This renting of other people’s vacant houses has been big business in Florida for a few opportunistic folks.


35 posted on 04/22/2014 12:29:48 PM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: Myrddin

Just file for eviction and press charges. If the guy has a contract then it will come out in court.


36 posted on 04/22/2014 12:31:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: falcon99

when the owners contact the sheriff with a complaint and then the quarters have no contract or lease agreement, they should be arrested immediately and their goods impounded.


37 posted on 04/22/2014 12:32:44 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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If it’s a verbal contract with this ‘friend’ have this ‘friend’ cancel it verbally or in writing.

End of story, thirty days later (or less) he’s out.


38 posted on 04/22/2014 12:33:48 PM PDT by thatjoeguy (Every law passed is one person forcing their morals on someone else.)
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To: AppyPappy

Did the soldier give power of attorney to his “friend”? Before deployment they warned us about how easily a general power of attorney can be abused.

Was his “friend” acting in his legal stead when he made the `contract’?

Anyway, extraction by bikers & guard dogs, with sheriff as witness, sounds like the best solution to a bad situation.


39 posted on 04/22/2014 12:38:43 PM PDT by elcid1970
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New Port Richey soldier says squatters won’t leave his home.

HUH?
Won’t leave?
You don’t know what to do about that?
While I have all the respect in the world for those that serve in the military I have to assume you have not learned much in your time in the service.
This is not a difficult issue........


40 posted on 04/22/2014 12:41:05 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

“This is crazy. You can’t just move into someone’s home and claim it.”

Apparently you can. Welcome to Obama’s Amerika.


41 posted on 04/22/2014 12:41:06 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Prospero

That’s “adverse possession”, and usually you have to pay taxes on it for it to be a valid claim.

It’s also a good way to pick up a piece of property that ends up being a super fund site of similar cleanup cluster f...


42 posted on 04/22/2014 12:41:36 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: ronnyquest

These thugs are not contributing to society. Any solution that solves the problem is a good solution, particularly if it involves a shovel and being quiet in steps 2 and 3.


43 posted on 04/22/2014 12:42:04 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

I thought the same thing. He looks like a pogue. I know how an Infantryman would fix this situation.


44 posted on 04/22/2014 12:42:06 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of liberty only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: This I Wonder32460

“Isn’t a verbal contract, tenant at will, which means at both the will of the tenant and the will of the owner, and if either one says “Time to move.” the tenant has to move?”

And if they don’t you have to get a court ordered eviction.


45 posted on 04/22/2014 12:43:34 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: SECURE AMERICA

“This is not a difficult issue........”

Lets say he kicks them out. Just kicks in the door, physically tosses the couple out, then locks the door. Illegal Ortiz calls the Sheriff, the Sheriff arrests the soldier. The soldier then gets in trouble with the Army for getting into trouble with civilian authorities... even though he did nothing wrong, and it’s his house. The military is as politically correct and bureaucratic and punitive as any federal civilian agency.


46 posted on 04/22/2014 12:44:47 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: mom.mom

You: I am not understanding this “there isn’t anything we can do about it.”

That is because it isn’t in the article.


47 posted on 04/22/2014 12:46:47 PM PDT by TexasGator
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The sherriff’s dept. is full of BS. I bet the squatter is distinctly hispanic, and possibly an illegal. I've noticed in my area of the country that hispanics and illegals tend to be “hands off” territory to the local PD’s and SD’s. Either they don't want to deal with the hispanics, or are actively running interference and running a protection racket for other local officials, or for example the local CofC.

Either way, this guy shouldn't hold his breath if he expects the local LEO’s or the courts to help him out. Roust the squatters discretely, or make them homeless and file an insurance claim.

48 posted on 04/22/2014 12:48:21 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Myrddin

Hmmmmm.... Something tells me that a police search of the property(outside)would would turn up a ton of “stolen” property from the neighborhood. Get a few cooperative neighbors and this would be easy. There is a 99.9% probability that these career criminals have something to hide and could not pass the scrutiny of a search warranty.

Monitor the home for when they leave. Hire a couple triaxles trucks to dump a couple loads of 4” stone to block the driveway, garage door, and every other entrance.

I would torment them relentlessly.


49 posted on 04/22/2014 12:50:19 PM PDT by LeonardFMason (LanceyHoward would AGREE)
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To: Pollster1

Ah, obama’s much-vaunted “Shovel-ready jobs.”


50 posted on 04/22/2014 12:51:27 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of liberty only to see marxism elected at home.)
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