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The NRA Quietly Backs Down On Domestic Violence
HuffPo ^ | 4/22/2014 | Laura Basset & Christina Wilkie

Posted on 04/23/2014 4:05:41 AM PDT by T-Bird45

WASHINGTON -- For nearly a decade, the National Rifle Association successfully blocked a bill in Washington state that would have required alleged domestic abusers to surrender their firearms after being served with a protective order. Only those actually convicted of felony domestic violence, the nation's largest gun lobby argued, should be made to forfeit their gun rights.

This past year, the NRA changed its tune. As the bill, HB 1840, once again moved through the state legislature, the gun lobby made a backroom deal with lawmakers, agreeing to drop its public opposition to it in exchange for a few minor changes. This February, with the NRA's tacit approval, the bill sailed through the state legislature in a rare unanimous vote.

The NRA's decision not to oppose the measure was a stark departure from its usual legislative strategy. For over a decade, bare-knuckled lobbying by the NRA has doomed similar bills in state legislatures across the country. Legislators who backed such bills, particularly in states with strong traditions of gun ownership, could practically be guaranteed a challenger after the NRA withdrew its endorsements or backed their opponents.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: amendments; banglist; christinawilkie; compromise; demagogicparty; domesticviolence; hb1840; huffpo; laurabasset; memebuilding; nra; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; restrainingorder; washington
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To: T-Bird45

Once they take them away, you’ll never get them back.


21 posted on 04/23/2014 5:58:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The best way to control opposition is to lead it ourselves." -- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin)
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To: T-Bird45; All

I recall reading about this. My recollection is that this was going to pass. Second Amendment supporters simply did not have the votes to stop it.

What they were attempting to modify was the requirement that the guns be turned over to law enforcement, instead, they could be held by a third party until the dispute was resolved.

I think that was one of the major things that was changed about the bill.

The article is nothing but a hit piece on the NRA and gun owners, IMHO.


22 posted on 04/23/2014 6:14:06 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: T-Bird45

They’d have to find all of mine first.


23 posted on 04/23/2014 6:23:42 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: VaRepublican

Bingo.


24 posted on 04/23/2014 6:27:44 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: T-Bird45
This is pure crap. Some chick gets angry at you because [whatever], and she calls the cops because you frowned at her.

They trot right over and take your guns, killing your dog in the process.

UTTER B******T

25 posted on 04/23/2014 6:30:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: T-Bird45
A LARGE percentage of domestic separations get VERY ugly with ALL SORTS of false accusations thrown around by BOTH parties. Merely an accusation without a conviction in a courtroom, should NOT be sufficient to abridge a basic constitutional and human right.
26 posted on 04/23/2014 6:56:51 AM PDT by ZULU (STOP JEB BUSH!!!! NO MORE BUSHES!! US OUT OF THE UN AND UN OUT OF US!!)
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To: T-Bird45

When my ex-wife divorced me “without cause”, they took my SKS. There was no record of domestic violence, etc. Actually, they didn’t take it, I gave it to a friend for safekeeping and they called it good. It’s a reasonable precaution. You never know what a guy is going to do when someone rips his family apart.

I got it back the day the divorce was final.


27 posted on 04/23/2014 7:03:03 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: VaRepublican

Well, people often spend time in jail before they are actually convicted. It’s complicated. Fact is, it is clearly legal to reduce someone’s constitutional rights when they are accused of certain crimes. I lump this in with the jail thing.


28 posted on 04/23/2014 7:04:32 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: G Larry

I believe they take your ammo as well, as anything to do with operating and firing a weapon.


29 posted on 04/23/2014 7:06:30 AM PDT by SgtHooper (I lost my tag!)
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To: SgtHooper

I’m not planning on misbehaven...but

there are a couple of reasons to have “Plan B” storage locations.

Especially the half that have ZERO paper trail....


30 posted on 04/23/2014 7:15:53 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
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To: Abathar
Usually you have to have some kind of proof to have a restraining order put on someone, you just can’t walk in and demand they have their rights taken away.

Sorry, but "usually" you don't need anything but the words coming out of an Ex's mouth. This is bad law in every way. If someone is afraid of someone else's guns, they'd be better off arming themselves, not depending on jackbooted thugs to disarm someone else.

31 posted on 04/23/2014 7:22:40 AM PDT by zeugma (Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened - Dr. Seuss (I'll see you again someday Hope))
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To: Charles Martel; yldstrk
Lousenberg's legislation is also unconstitutional on its face. It (and this state "law") clearly violate both due process and non-infringement of the right to keep and bear arms. It is an infringement of rights and a deprivation of property purely on someone's say-so, with no opportunity for even a rebuttal much less a trial.

It's evil, it's totalitarian, and it's very un-American.

32 posted on 04/23/2014 7:29:56 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Lion Den Dan
The NRA and John Boehner are of the same stuff.
-=0=-

Preach it bruddah, preach it.....

33 posted on 04/23/2014 7:39:10 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: VaRepublican

Guilty until proven Innocent.

Did we just travel back in time to the Soviet Union?


34 posted on 04/23/2014 7:40:43 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: NorthMountain

Yep, and then there’s the issue of these laws being applied retroactively against people who had restraining orders issued against them long before Frank Lautenberg even dreamed this up. The intentional blurring of the differences between misdemeanors and felonies is abhorrent as well. The only places you see that are where the federal government is interested in exerting power - war on drugs, anti-gun initiatives, etc.


35 posted on 04/23/2014 7:45:48 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: zeugma

I agree completely with what you are saying, I was just pointing out how they think it is suppose to work, not real life.


36 posted on 04/23/2014 8:08:42 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: T-Bird45

Before we start excoriating the NRA lets put the blame squarely where it belongs. That is the electorate of the state. If people in any state are stupid enough to allow the crazy gun legislation to pass and stand then whose fault is it? At some point you have to own it.


37 posted on 04/23/2014 9:02:17 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Abathar
Usually you have to have some kind of proof to have a restraining order put on someone, you just can’t walk in and demand they have their rights taken away. (usually..)

In general that's probably true, but in some jurisdictions they're just issuing them by default in every divorce proceeding, I hear. Often against just the husband in today's anti-male courts, but sometimes against both parties.

38 posted on 04/23/2014 9:29:53 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: G Larry

Agreed!


39 posted on 04/23/2014 11:56:48 AM PDT by SgtHooper (I lost my tag!)
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To: Lion Den Dan
Once again, an NRA sell out. If one’s guns may be seized on a mere accusation of potential wrong doing, I suppose one’s land may be seized on an accusation of intent to commit a crime thereon. The NRA and John Boehner are of the same stuff.

While I admit the NRA ain't perfect, before you judge it too harshly, you ought to consider how long we'd have been able to keep our weapons without it's support and leverage. They'd have been long gone, I suspect. Also, try not to judge them on the basis of observations made by screaming lib-tards like huff-po. They want you to turn on the NRA for a reason. Yes there are other, more pro-active progun groups. But few if any have the long standing clout and base of operations that NRA does. I've been one of their instructors for 25 years and I'm an Endowment Life Member so I would admit to a certain favorable bias, but the fact remains that they cause liberal heads to explode at the mere mention of their name (initials). That happens for a reason and it should count for something, I would think. So ease up on them, okay? Because you're cutting off your nose to spite your face.

40 posted on 04/23/2014 12:55:07 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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