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To: Sacajaweau

No evidence he said anything. NYT has no credibility and no proof. Waco smear tactics will not work here. The Left failed already once with the war-on-women one, this race-card play is failing too.


12 posted on 04/24/2014 8:16:10 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Mechanicos

even if he did say it, were blacks better off doing forced labor and raising intact families, or living in fatherless broken families, speaking a jargon worse than jive, and shooting/murdering each other on the streets of America like popcorn?


39 posted on 04/24/2014 8:25:27 AM PDT by stickywillie (how come there are no father-in-law jokes?)
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To: Mechanicos

I haven’t been able to find any proof, video or otherwise that he said any of this yet many out there are willing to accept a NYT hit piece as gospel. This is another reason why the GOP and conservatives continually shoot themselves in the foot. Besides, what about what he allegedly said is racist?


48 posted on 04/24/2014 8:42:29 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Mechanicos
No evidence he said anything. NYT has no credibility and no proof. Waco smear tactics will not work here. The Left failed already once with the war-on-women one, this race-card play is failing too.

He's on tape saying it. It's been posted here already. From what I saw he wasn't even responding to a NY Times reporter at all, he was just giving a speech to his supporters. So yes, he said these things. Once a person starts talking about "the negro" being better off learning to pick cotton they've pretty much destroyed their cause.

60 posted on 04/24/2014 9:17:25 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Mechanicos
No evidence he said anything. NYT has no credibility and no proof.

NYT has no credibility, but they certainly have proof.

Yes, Cliven Bundy said it, and it doesn't appear he was speaking to the NYT.

91 posted on 04/24/2014 10:32:10 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Mechanicos
No evidence he said anything.

There's a tape. He said it. When a man puts a "kick me" sign on his own ass, he's more to be pitied than scorned. Instead of referring to 1860, here's what he might have said. The problem we have today have roots in the Rise of the Welfare State.

The calamitous breakdown of the black family is a comparatively recent phenomenon, coinciding precisely with the rise of the welfare state. Throughout the epoch of slavery and into the early decades of the twentieth century, most black children grew up in two-parent households.
 Post-Civil War studies revealed that most black couples in their forties had been together for at least twenty years. In southern urban areas around 1880, nearly three-fourths of black households were husband-or father-present; in southern rural settings, the figure approached 86%. As of 1940, the illegitimacy rate among blacks nationwide was approximately 15%—scarcely one-fifth of the current figure.
 As late as 1950, black women were more likely to be married than white women, and only 9% of black families with children were headed by a single parent.

140 posted on 04/25/2014 6:57:28 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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