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BREAKING: Cliven Bundy Responds To Charges Of Racism: ‘The Statement Was Right’
The Right Scoop ^ | 4/24/14

Posted on 04/24/2014 11:40:52 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

“That’s exactly what I said. I said I’m wondering if they’re better off under government subsidy, and their young women are having the abortions and their young men are in jail, and their older women and their children are standing, sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do, you know, I’m wondering: Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves, and they was able to have their family structure together, and the chickens and garden, and the people had something to do? And so, in my mind I’m wondering, are they better off being slaves, in that sense, or better off being slaves to the United States government, in the sense of the subsidies. I’m wondering. That’s what. And the statement was right. I am wondering.”


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1 posted on 04/24/2014 11:40:52 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

So he’s wondering which form of slavery some people prefer?


2 posted on 04/24/2014 11:43:14 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I few of our friends and families are ranchers. I haven’t talked to them about Mr. Bundy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the thought of him as an idiot right about now.


3 posted on 04/24/2014 11:43:14 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: Darksheare

It appears to be his point.


4 posted on 04/24/2014 11:44:31 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: SoFloFreeper
You got give him credit for one thing, he says what he thinks and doesn't give a hoot what anybody on either side or the press thinks about it. Somehow I doubt a tearful “Paula Deen” style faux apology will be forthcoming...
5 posted on 04/24/2014 11:44:42 AM PDT by apillar
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To: SoFloFreeper

good man. i wonder what he wonders.


6 posted on 04/24/2014 11:46:10 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: SoFloFreeper

Hmmm..I get a 404 error on the link. No author listed. Still waiting for some news on this. So far hearsay and innuendo.


7 posted on 04/24/2014 11:46:17 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Lefties always whine about how they want a “conversation on race in this country.”

Then they get it, and immediately slam anybody down who says something they don’t agree with.

They don’t want a “conservation”, they want a “lecture”.


8 posted on 04/24/2014 11:46:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SoFloFreeper
All it takes to beat these A-holes is to follow Congressman Crockett's motto - first be sure you're right, then go ahead.

And DON'T apologize, I might add.

9 posted on 04/24/2014 11:47:04 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SoFloFreeper

Where’s the source?


10 posted on 04/24/2014 11:47:32 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: dfwgator

Uggh, that should be “Conversation”.


11 posted on 04/24/2014 11:48:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SoFloFreeper

This is so awesome! Fred Reed pointed this out over a decade ago. I’ve been mentioning it here (as have many others), and now, Bundy says “the emperor has no clothes” and the leftist media makes sure everybody hears him.

And guess what everybody is talking about? This is a really good thing.

I really like this Bundy guy.


12 posted on 04/24/2014 11:48:09 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: This Just In
"I wouldn’t be surprised if the thought of him as an idiot right about now."

Why? Just what did he say in context that makes him sound like an idiot?

13 posted on 04/24/2014 11:48:26 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Good question.
If they were slaves rather than on welfare, they would have an incentive to escape the plantation and they would be applauded when doing so.
Note: I am in no way endorsing slavery. For blacks or anyone.
I'm saying multi generational welfare is a cruel trap, every bit as demoralizing as slavery.

14 posted on 04/24/2014 11:48:26 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: SoFloFreeper

His points are valid. The media will destroy him, and no one of prominence will defend him. In this country it hurts to be honest without a public relations firm assisting you.


15 posted on 04/24/2014 11:48:37 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: apillar

Remember when everyone gathered around this guy based on his sophisticated and erudite take on public policy and race relations? No, neither do I. Folks mostly objected to the “1st amendment zone” and wanted the BLM to not shoot him in the head and take his cattle. His opinions don’t really impact whether the BLM should shoot him and take his cattle in order for Harry Reid to make more money.


16 posted on 04/24/2014 11:48:41 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: SoFloFreeper

Dear Leader Chairman Maobama will chime in on this shortly, I am sure.


17 posted on 04/24/2014 11:49:25 AM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: thorvaldr
This is the part where they must “Cut off the support network and isolate, polarize, demonize.” Because Bundy said something with a politically incorrect word, it's now okay if his family is massacred and his land stolen so Harry Reid can sell it to the Chinese for solar panels.

None of this has any bearing on what we all witnessed last week where an out of control, militarized federal government brought their storm troopers to “protect” a freaking turtle and steal an old man’s cows.

18 posted on 04/24/2014 11:50:17 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: dfwgator

The point, dfwgator, is this:

We don’t wish to communicate to the talking heads. We wish to communicate with Americans as well as the international audience.

We know the Lefts angle. We understand their strategy. Our goal is-or should be-to effectively communicate to the general public in order to inspire and persuade.


19 posted on 04/24/2014 11:51:07 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: cld51860

And i’m guessing it won’t be to offer up the White House patio for a “beer summit” to smooth the waters ...


20 posted on 04/24/2014 11:52:07 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Darksheare

“So he’s wondering which form of slavery some people prefer?”

That’s how I see it. And apart from the hyper-sensitivity crowd, what he said should make even liberals pause. How much freedom have they given the downtrodden? And how many families have they rent asunder?

And how is living on the demorat plantation with food stamps, section 8 housing, WIC, SNAP, EIC, Obamacare, Obamaphones, affirmative action, or any of the other 77 welfare programs different than slavery when the recipient has no freedom other than to vote for the “Man” to keep living on the plantation?


21 posted on 04/24/2014 11:52:11 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: This Just In; A'elian' nation

Yet Democrats calling Justice Thomas and black Republicans “race Traitors” “uncle Toms” and “house negroes” is not racist?
The press, and the world, are upside down.
Just weird.
Perhaps there was a “better” way to ask the question, but even that would garner a press freakout.
Heck, look at how the press wets themselves over the 2nd Amendment.


22 posted on 04/24/2014 11:55:19 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Waiting for the Robert Byrd crowd to chime in. Maybe he was just ‘trying to get elected’, so that makes it ok.

I think Bundy is an honest man, who isn’t a great wordsmith. Why not have a discussion about why blacks continue to be over-represented in all the wrong categories?

Oh yeah - we’re not allowed to have honest discussions about race in this country.


23 posted on 04/24/2014 11:55:19 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: thorvaldr
His opinions don’t really impact whether the BLM should shoot him and take his cattle in order for Harry Reid to make more money.

I don't know, by reading some of the comments on other sites (some even by so-called Republicans), it appears that there are now a significant number that would have no problem with government shooting him in the head and taking his land solely for making the comments. I guess free speech is only allowed when its politically correct...

24 posted on 04/24/2014 11:55:27 AM PDT by apillar
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To: SoFloFreeper

Dear Democrats. Please provide numbers and an explanation for the following:

1) The number of black abortions each year
2) The number of black men sitting in prision
3) The number of black children being raised without a father
4) The percentage of black men that are unemployed

And how many years are we into Obama’s presidency?

But hey, Let’s Move!


25 posted on 04/24/2014 11:55:54 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: SoFloFreeper

He is talking about government’s failures, not the entire black race. Many blacks have also come out against government dependency.


26 posted on 04/24/2014 12:01:01 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: PoloSec

The problem, PoloSec, is that the general public doesn’t hear “context”. They hear and see words. Due to the nature of Mr. Bundy’s case, he has a civic obligation to carry himself-when speaking to the public- in a dignified manner. Mr. Bundy must assume that from here on out, he’ll be quoted and filmed for public consumption. That’s the nature of the beast.

As a result of what happened with the Feds, Mr. Bundy created a national spectacle. Don’t misunderstand me. What unfolded at the ranch had to be made public because the BLM as well as the Feds were overreaching in their authority against American citizens.

Mr. Bundy chose to capitalize on the violation of his Constitutional rights and take this to the public. As a result, he has become a spokesman of sorts and public figure. Therefore he should conduct himself in such a way that is becoming to all ranchers and to those citizens who are keeping a close eye on these developments.


27 posted on 04/24/2014 12:01:13 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Raebie

Oh, they have an explanation - white racism is the cause of all those problems.


28 posted on 04/24/2014 12:02:30 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: BitWielder1
I'm saying multi generational welfare is a cruel trap, every bit as demoralizing as slavery.

Agreed, and I do believe that was Mr. Bundy's argument.

29 posted on 04/24/2014 12:03:33 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Good for him for not backing away from what he said. Meanwhile the POS & spineless GOP is running around in circles.


30 posted on 04/24/2014 12:03:34 PM PDT by Altura Ct. (i)
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To: Darksheare

Darksheare, the problem isn’t the press. The problem isn’t the double-standards. The problem is that you want to persuade and inform the general public. Also, Mr. Bundy, whether he likes it or not, is a spokesman of sorts for ranchers.

I can assure you that if I ask my rancher friends and family about this situation, they will not be pleased.


31 posted on 04/24/2014 12:03:51 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: SoFloFreeper
Bundy has a set. That much is clear.

And he appears to have studied the Sarah Palin playbook on how to deal with the left. Though she would have never said this.

So, now we have somebody with a set of brass ones, the Sarah Palin playbook and a statement that is completely and totally verboten in the PC world.

32 posted on 04/24/2014 12:07:03 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: PoloSec

there is no such thing as “context” any more. Anyone involved in the public sphere had better realize that.

the old argument about being taken out of context, or only a partial quote, or not the whole statment just is completely useless these days. It’s soundbites and what is the smallest cut and paste that doesn’t actually *change* the words or image, and that is what one is going to be held to and stuck with- left or right. It’s the 21st century and no one other than a partisan who has already made up their mind is going to read an entire paragraph to get the context.


33 posted on 04/24/2014 12:07:34 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Raebie

Welfare historically enslaves those who become dependent upon it for their livelihood.

How do the numbers, in your 1 - 4, compare to other races?

How have generational entitlements helped blacks, or any race, to become truly self sufficient?

Questions/topics the libs don’t like to discuss...factually.


34 posted on 04/24/2014 12:07:42 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: This Just In

But who “informs” the general public?
The press.


35 posted on 04/24/2014 12:08:06 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Darksheare

I honestly don’t get the jump so many made to defend Bunker. He is the wrong symbol for a move against Federal overreach. I know the BLM was full of hoola and don’t buy the desert tortoise argument at all. But Bundy was grazing on Federal land without paying the fees that other ranchers paid. From what I read he had plenty of warning that he needed to move those cattle off the land.

The show of police power was overkill and played right into Bundy’s hand and those who took up his cause. That does not change the fact that the man is looking more and more like an ass. This statement is so stupid it beggars belief.


36 posted on 04/24/2014 12:10:51 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Your link gives me this....gif and all ;)

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37 posted on 04/24/2014 12:11:03 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: This Just In

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3148235/posts
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38 posted on 04/24/2014 12:11:03 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: This Just In

http://therightscoop.com/breaking-cliven-bundy-responds-to-charges-of-racism-the-statement-was-right/

sorry, don’t know what happened to my link.


39 posted on 04/24/2014 12:11:12 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: joshua c

http://therightscoop.com/breaking-cliven-bundy-responds-to-charges-of-racism-the-statement-was-right/

sorry, don’t know what happened to my link.


40 posted on 04/24/2014 12:11:23 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: lastchance

So it is okay for government to confiscate, kill, and destroy because Harry Reid has a deal with China?


41 posted on 04/24/2014 12:11:43 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Darksheare

Unless pigs are soaring overhead, there’s Free Republic. There’s FoxNews, there are other resources besides the MSM. As a matter of fact, how do you think this whole Bundy confrontation became national news exactly?

Do you see my point?


42 posted on 04/24/2014 12:11:43 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Joe Nosedrip out there doesn’t know much besides what the press tells them.
Especially in far flung far away places of such non-thought as New York.


43 posted on 04/24/2014 12:12:37 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Jane Long

http://therightscoop.com/breaking-cliven-bundy-responds-to-charges-of-racism-the-statement-was-right/

sorry, don’t know what happened to my link.


44 posted on 04/24/2014 12:13:43 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Altura Ct.

BTTT!


45 posted on 04/24/2014 12:13:50 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Darksheare

That was what my statement about BLM’s argument being BS was alluding to. No the actions by BLM were not right. The only right action is whatever a court of law said could be done or at the very least actions legally taken by BLM as mandated by Congress under Federal law.

But the fact he believes that slave families were allowed to remain intact shows his knowledge of history could use a tweaking.


46 posted on 04/24/2014 12:15:23 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Darksheare

I’m quite familiar with Star Parker. Her backstory is a profound and moving account as well as inspiring.

If you’re suggesting that there is a tie-in to Mr. Bundy’s situation, I’d have to call this a red herring.

There’s a difference between a black author who actually lived that life, turned her situation around through Christ, and became a public figure and author compared to the current events unfolding on the Bundy ranch.


47 posted on 04/24/2014 12:16:16 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: SoFloFreeper

The debate boils down to this:

WHICH WOULD YOU CHOOSE?

CHOICE #1: ROTTING IN A JAIL CELL FOR 20 YEARS.

CHOICE #2: WORKING THE FIELDS AS A SLAVE.

I imagine some folks would choose to remain locked in jail, while others might yell ‘Get me out of here’ and prefer manual labor picking tobacco.

Remember folks, a crazy amount of black men land in prison.

I think the statistic I saw was 40% of black men enter prison at least once.

Prison isn’t much different from slavery.


48 posted on 04/24/2014 12:17:19 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Considering how the civil rights of minorities are more often trampled by government than by amateur racists one must wonder if these people do, indeed, prefer being beaten and whipped by Officer Massa’ over plain old Massa’?

Bundy is right in that some of these people merely traded Democrat-owned rural plantations for Democrat-owned urban plantations.


49 posted on 04/24/2014 12:18:09 PM PDT by MeganC (Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: This Just In

He didn’t say anything that she hasn’t already said.


50 posted on 04/24/2014 12:21:18 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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