Skip to comments.BREAKING: Cliven Bundy Responds To Charges Of Racism: ‘The Statement Was Right’
Posted on 04/24/2014 11:40:52 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
Thats exactly what I said. I said Im wondering if theyre better off under government subsidy, and their young women are having the abortions and their young men are in jail, and their older women and their children are standing, sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do, you know, Im wondering: Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves, and they was able to have their family structure together, and the chickens and garden, and the people had something to do? And so, in my mind Im wondering, are they better off being slaves, in that sense, or better off being slaves to the United States government, in the sense of the subsidies. Im wondering. Thats what. And the statement was right. I am wondering.
So he’s wondering which form of slavery some people prefer?
I few of our friends and families are ranchers. I haven’t talked to them about Mr. Bundy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the thought of him as an idiot right about now.
It appears to be his point.
good man. i wonder what he wonders.
Hmmm..I get a 404 error on the link. No author listed. Still waiting for some news on this. So far hearsay and innuendo.
Lefties always whine about how they want a “conversation on race in this country.”
Then they get it, and immediately slam anybody down who says something they don’t agree with.
They don’t want a “conservation”, they want a “lecture”.
And DON'T apologize, I might add.
Where’s the source?
Uggh, that should be “Conversation”.
This is so awesome! Fred Reed pointed this out over a decade ago. I’ve been mentioning it here (as have many others), and now, Bundy says “the emperor has no clothes” and the leftist media makes sure everybody hears him.
And guess what everybody is talking about? This is a really good thing.
I really like this Bundy guy.
Why? Just what did he say in context that makes him sound like an idiot?
His points are valid. The media will destroy him, and no one of prominence will defend him. In this country it hurts to be honest without a public relations firm assisting you.
Remember when everyone gathered around this guy based on his sophisticated and erudite take on public policy and race relations? No, neither do I. Folks mostly objected to the “1st amendment zone” and wanted the BLM to not shoot him in the head and take his cattle. His opinions don’t really impact whether the BLM should shoot him and take his cattle in order for Harry Reid to make more money.
Dear Leader Chairman Maobama will chime in on this shortly, I am sure.
None of this has any bearing on what we all witnessed last week where an out of control, militarized federal government brought their storm troopers to protect a freaking turtle and steal an old mans cows.
The point, dfwgator, is this:
We don’t wish to communicate to the talking heads. We wish to communicate with Americans as well as the international audience.
We know the Lefts angle. We understand their strategy. Our goal is-or should be-to effectively communicate to the general public in order to inspire and persuade.
And i’m guessing it won’t be to offer up the White House patio for a “beer summit” to smooth the waters ...
“So hes wondering which form of slavery some people prefer?”
That’s how I see it. And apart from the hyper-sensitivity crowd, what he said should make even liberals pause. How much freedom have they given the downtrodden? And how many families have they rent asunder?
And how is living on the demorat plantation with food stamps, section 8 housing, WIC, SNAP, EIC, Obamacare, Obamaphones, affirmative action, or any of the other 77 welfare programs different than slavery when the recipient has no freedom other than to vote for the Man to keep living on the plantation?
Yet Democrats calling Justice Thomas and black Republicans “race Traitors” “uncle Toms” and “house negroes” is not racist?
The press, and the world, are upside down.
Perhaps there was a “better” way to ask the question, but even that would garner a press freakout.
Heck, look at how the press wets themselves over the 2nd Amendment.
Waiting for the Robert Byrd crowd to chime in. Maybe he was just ‘trying to get elected’, so that makes it ok.
I think Bundy is an honest man, who isn’t a great wordsmith. Why not have a discussion about why blacks continue to be over-represented in all the wrong categories?
Oh yeah - we’re not allowed to have honest discussions about race in this country.
I don't know, by reading some of the comments on other sites (some even by so-called Republicans), it appears that there are now a significant number that would have no problem with government shooting him in the head and taking his land solely for making the comments. I guess free speech is only allowed when its politically correct...
Dear Democrats. Please provide numbers and an explanation for the following:
1) The number of black abortions each year
2) The number of black men sitting in prision
3) The number of black children being raised without a father
4) The percentage of black men that are unemployed
And how many years are we into Obama’s presidency?
But hey, Let’s Move!
He is talking about government’s failures, not the entire black race. Many blacks have also come out against government dependency.
The problem, PoloSec, is that the general public doesn’t hear “context”. They hear and see words. Due to the nature of Mr. Bundy’s case, he has a civic obligation to carry himself-when speaking to the public- in a dignified manner. Mr. Bundy must assume that from here on out, he’ll be quoted and filmed for public consumption. That’s the nature of the beast.
As a result of what happened with the Feds, Mr. Bundy created a national spectacle. Don’t misunderstand me. What unfolded at the ranch had to be made public because the BLM as well as the Feds were overreaching in their authority against American citizens.
Mr. Bundy chose to capitalize on the violation of his Constitutional rights and take this to the public. As a result, he has become a spokesman of sorts and public figure. Therefore he should conduct himself in such a way that is becoming to all ranchers and to those citizens who are keeping a close eye on these developments.
Oh, they have an explanation - white racism is the cause of all those problems.
Agreed, and I do believe that was Mr. Bundy's argument.
Good for him for not backing away from what he said. Meanwhile the POS & spineless GOP is running around in circles.
Darksheare, the problem isn’t the press. The problem isn’t the double-standards. The problem is that you want to persuade and inform the general public. Also, Mr. Bundy, whether he likes it or not, is a spokesman of sorts for ranchers.
I can assure you that if I ask my rancher friends and family about this situation, they will not be pleased.
And he appears to have studied the Sarah Palin playbook on how to deal with the left. Though she would have never said this.
So, now we have somebody with a set of brass ones, the Sarah Palin playbook and a statement that is completely and totally verboten in the PC world.
there is no such thing as “context” any more. Anyone involved in the public sphere had better realize that.
the old argument about being taken out of context, or only a partial quote, or not the whole statment just is completely useless these days. It’s soundbites and what is the smallest cut and paste that doesn’t actually *change* the words or image, and that is what one is going to be held to and stuck with- left or right. It’s the 21st century and no one other than a partisan who has already made up their mind is going to read an entire paragraph to get the context.
Welfare historically enslaves those who become dependent upon it for their livelihood.
How do the numbers, in your 1 - 4, compare to other races?
How have generational entitlements helped blacks, or any race, to become truly self sufficient?
Questions/topics the libs don’t like to discuss...factually.
But who “informs” the general public?
I honestly don’t get the jump so many made to defend Bunker. He is the wrong symbol for a move against Federal overreach. I know the BLM was full of hoola and don’t buy the desert tortoise argument at all. But Bundy was grazing on Federal land without paying the fees that other ranchers paid. From what I read he had plenty of warning that he needed to move those cattle off the land.
The show of police power was overkill and played right into Bundy’s hand and those who took up his cause. That does not change the fact that the man is looking more and more like an ass. This statement is so stupid it beggars belief.
sorry, don’t know what happened to my link.
sorry, don’t know what happened to my link.
So it is okay for government to confiscate, kill, and destroy because Harry Reid has a deal with China?
Unless pigs are soaring overhead, there’s Free Republic. There’s FoxNews, there are other resources besides the MSM. As a matter of fact, how do you think this whole Bundy confrontation became national news exactly?
Do you see my point?
Joe Nosedrip out there doesn’t know much besides what the press tells them.
Especially in far flung far away places of such non-thought as New York.
sorry, don’t know what happened to my link.
That was what my statement about BLM’s argument being BS was alluding to. No the actions by BLM were not right. The only right action is whatever a court of law said could be done or at the very least actions legally taken by BLM as mandated by Congress under Federal law.
But the fact he believes that slave families were allowed to remain intact shows his knowledge of history could use a tweaking.
I’m quite familiar with Star Parker. Her backstory is a profound and moving account as well as inspiring.
If you’re suggesting that there is a tie-in to Mr. Bundy’s situation, I’d have to call this a red herring.
There’s a difference between a black author who actually lived that life, turned her situation around through Christ, and became a public figure and author compared to the current events unfolding on the Bundy ranch.
The debate boils down to this:
WHICH WOULD YOU CHOOSE?
CHOICE #1: ROTTING IN A JAIL CELL FOR 20 YEARS.
CHOICE #2: WORKING THE FIELDS AS A SLAVE.
I imagine some folks would choose to remain locked in jail, while others might yell ‘Get me out of here’ and prefer manual labor picking tobacco.
Remember folks, a crazy amount of black men land in prison.
I think the statistic I saw was 40% of black men enter prison at least once.
Prison isn’t much different from slavery.
Considering how the civil rights of minorities are more often trampled by government than by amateur racists one must wonder if these people do, indeed, prefer being beaten and whipped by Officer Massa’ over plain old Massa’?
Bundy is right in that some of these people merely traded Democrat-owned rural plantations for Democrat-owned urban plantations.
He didn’t say anything that she hasn’t already said.