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Cliven Bundy, who is well into his seventies, did not articulate himself very well, and was wrong about the comparison to slavery. But he made it clear up front that he did not advocate for any return to it, or going back in history.

In addition, the question about minorities in this country being better off under dependancy and welfare when compared to the American free market and free enterprise is one that needs to be raised...over and over ahgain.

1 posted on 04/25/2014 10:12:08 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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I might rephrase —

Today’s welfare state is worse than the physical slavery of the past; it is more abhorrent and despicable.

And explain —

Today’s welfare state enslaves the mind, the morals, the motivation; one’s very soul. That is backed up by the quoted statistics.

I believe one can maintain one’s moral soul during physical slavery (Kunta Kinte, Jeremiah Denton, ...)

I have not not lessened the evil of the slavery of the past; the liberals, progressives, and race-baiters have surpassed it.


27 posted on 04/25/2014 10:37:45 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You can count my felonies by looking at my FR replies.)
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I understand what Mr Bundy was trying to say,”freedom is better than Government dependance.


35 posted on 04/25/2014 10:45:28 AM PDT by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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“Cliven Bundy, who is well into his seventies, did not articulate himself very well, and was wrong about the comparison to slavery.”

Understatement. Anyone that says “I seen ...” is not a spokesman for anything. He made some stupid statements but let’s hope he shuts his mouth long enough for us to get back to the real issue which is fed overreach.


36 posted on 04/25/2014 10:47:08 AM PDT by plain talk
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Cliven Bundy, who is well into his seventies, did not articulate himself very well, and was wrong about the comparison to slavery. But he made it clear up front that he did not advocate for any return to it, or going back in history.

I had viewed CNN just a half an hour ago. I saw Wolf Blitzer with two persons. One was a Paul Begala. Sickened, I turned it off. They were going full tilt on the racism aspect.

I hope to be excused a digression on the subject here. One word has in the past been used to utterly and completely destroy people who got in someone's way. Today it is "Racist". The word "Nazi" is also used, but with hardly the same effect.

At another time in history, there was an Inquisition. Their power was absolute. The word used at that time to destroy and render a person to torture or death was "Heretic". I would describe people like the Nevada politician, Harry Reid and the Begala type as Inquisitors.

Merciless opportunists to say the least.

43 posted on 04/25/2014 10:53:59 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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The Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton answer to all these rates is white man and his slavery. Jessie and Al will refuse to note that slavery rates are extremely high in the Middle East and Africa today and the Muslims, both Arab and Black, are the instigators. It is always someone else’s fault. Black have had 50 years or more of free government hand outs and have allowed themselves to become slaves to the federal government for these handouts.


49 posted on 04/25/2014 11:09:12 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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Jeff, forgive me the cut and paste from another thread.

I guess you haven’t heard. Beck and others have declared Bundy is just a reprehensible racist and probably deserves what the BLM was about to do to him.

Incredible! Frankly, I could give a rat’s ass. Well, that is a bit overstated. Still, it strikes me that this gentleman was willing to put his and his son’s lives on the line. Not just willing but actually DID. To abandon him because the NY Slimes brands him racist seems to me to be ungrateful. God Forbid the gummint come for me and Beck discovers I am a smoker. OMG, and I brew beer, too. Worse, I don’t pay tax on my smokes! I grow my own.


50 posted on 04/25/2014 11:11:51 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Bookmark for later read.


57 posted on 04/25/2014 11:49:28 AM PDT by FBD
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He needed to realize, and it is hard to comprehend at times, that a person of his position and visibility to the national media needs to have someone well versed in what to say in public and what not to say. In other words - he needs a good PR firm.


58 posted on 04/25/2014 11:49:41 AM PDT by SLB (23rd Artillery Group, Republic of South Vietnam, Aug 1970 - Aug 1971.)
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In world governed by lies and wishful thinking, telling the truth is a radical act and will get you trouble.


59 posted on 04/25/2014 11:54:02 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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Bundy’s Black Bodyguard: ‘I Would Take A Bullet For That Man’ (VIDEO)

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cliven-bundy-bodyguard-take-a-bullet


60 posted on 04/25/2014 11:56:55 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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“Cliven Bundy, who is well into his seventies”

He’s 67. He’ll turn 68 on April 29.


61 posted on 04/25/2014 11:59:24 AM PDT by FreedomForce (Living in the Age of American Soft Despotism)
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bfl


62 posted on 04/25/2014 12:05:14 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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Right off the bat, I have felt that attacks against Cliven Bundy were nothing but a pro-Obama, leftist witch hunt.


63 posted on 04/25/2014 12:16:57 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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Perhaps Mr. Bundy does not undertsand that in slavery in the South

As well as slavery in the north. Slavery was not exclusive to the southern U.S. Why point out only the south?

72 posted on 04/25/2014 1:24:05 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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P4L


83 posted on 04/25/2014 5:36:05 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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