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Rand Casts a Paul Over Life Debate
Patriot Post ^ | 04/25/2014 | Tony Perkins

Posted on 04/25/2014 11:48:21 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Republicans are still months away from kicking off the presidential race – and that's a good thing for front-runners like Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who could use the extra time to hone their messaging. In four years, the Kentucky leader has won over plenty of fans for his solid record on a whole range of issues, including life. But today, it isn't his record that's concerning people – it's his rhetoric.

Wednesday, in a sit-down with former Obama insider David Axelrod, Sen. Paul surprised a lot of conservatives with his nonchalant attitude on abortion and his role in ending it. As president, Axelrod wanted to know, how hard would his White House push to overturn Roe v. Wade? The Senator's answer: not much. With the country so evenly divided on the issue, he thinks an incremental approach is best. “I think the debate is about when life begins,” said the lead sponsor of the Senate's Life at Conception Act. “Is it okay for an eight-pound baby to be aborted one week before delivery?”

Asked what his personal opinion on life at conception is, Sen. Paul said, “My personal religious belief is that life begins at the very beginning.” But, he explained, America is evenly divided between “all life and no abortion, or all abortion and no life… I think the law will come down in between.” Later, he said, “The country is in the middle, [and] we're not changing any of the laws until the country is persuaded otherwise.”

Maybe it was inarticulate, or maybe these are the Senator's real feelings, but that last comment certainly set off alarm bells for social conservatives.

(Excerpt) Read more at patriotpost.us ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; libertarian; libtardian; randpaul
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To: GIdget2004
maybe it was inarticulate....

Then Rand Paul has been having a whole lot of "inarticulate" moments lately. He's OVER as a serious candidate for constitutional conservatives.

21 posted on 04/25/2014 2:46:47 PM PDT by grania
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To: GIdget2004

Career political dynasts, the Paul’s, sure seem to enjoy toying with the libertarian rubes.


22 posted on 04/25/2014 2:51:17 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: GIdget2004

What if the country were evenly divided on assisted suicide? You have got to make decisions according to your conscience and fight all out for them, win, lose, or draw. Cruz strikes me more of the type.


23 posted on 04/25/2014 2:52:38 PM PDT by inpajamas (http://outskirtspress.com/ONE)
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To: ansel12

Like I said show me the money er video. Otherwise I’m not buying the BS.

All the possible GOP candidates say they are pro life. I believe all of them. End of story.


24 posted on 04/25/2014 3:29:27 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Wow, it is worse than I thought, no wonder pro-lifers are shaken at his cavalier attitude about abortion it echoes his other statements on retreat from marriage and social issues, I guess you read post 19.

See if you hear this same thinking expressed in his video statements on abortion.
“I think that the Republican Party, in order to get bigger, will have to agree to disagree on social issues,” Paul advised. “The Republican Party is not going to give up on having quite a few people who do believe in traditional marriage. But the Republican Party also has to find a place for young people and others who don’t want to be festooned by those issues.”

Now hear him on abortion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAKVafMddTg


25 posted on 04/25/2014 3:59:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

All the possible GOP candidates say they are pro life. I believe all of them. End of story


26 posted on 04/25/2014 4:23:10 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Did you think that of Mitt Romney?


27 posted on 04/25/2014 4:24:26 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

I’m still waiting for you to provide evidence that Ted Cruz has been any more vocal about stopping abortion and overturning Roe v Wade than Rand Paul. Whats the holdup?


28 posted on 04/25/2014 4:30:35 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ansel12

breathe. cool your jets a bit. Most of the big wins came AFTER the initial battles in Iowa and the north east. Remember what it was like.

I didn’t say you didn’t vote for him but there were the nay sayers and the single issue voters who didn’t.

You have consistently ignored my statement that I am for Ted Cruz. And as much as it may bother you I prefer Rand Paul to ANY dimorat


29 posted on 04/25/2014 4:31:37 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You clearly want to keep going on about Cruz, do what you want, I will post on the thread topic, Paul and his shifting position on abortion.


30 posted on 04/25/2014 4:40:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Nifster

In every post you make up some irrelevant claim about something unrelated.

You just make up something out of thin air for every post, from Reagan to it bothering me about you preferring a republican over a democrat.

Rather than making up posts for us, why not just respond to what we actually are posting.


31 posted on 04/25/2014 4:44:00 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

So what you are saying is that you really cannot provide any evidence that Cruz or any other possible candidate for the GOP nomination is any more adamant about overturning Roe v Wade than Rand Paul. Right? :-)


32 posted on 04/25/2014 4:45:17 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Paul campaigned for Romney, and like Romney,
Rand Paul wants to change the GOP party platform and move it to the left, this gay marriage, social issues, and now, abortion, seems to tell us that he is not what we were led to believe that he was, when he was running for the Senate.


33 posted on 04/25/2014 4:46:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I will choose what I will research and post, and on which thread, and right now, you are ignoring anything related to this thread and Rand Paul, and his position on abortion.


34 posted on 04/25/2014 4:48:39 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Rand Paul is on record as being pro life and anti abortion. Show me some evidence that he has changed that position. Link me to a video or an interview. I can’t just take your word for it now can I? Trust but verify.


35 posted on 04/25/2014 4:52:09 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ansel12

Why don’t you acknowledge what I have said??? In each post I have said I am a Cruz fan. Paul is a libertarian (as I have suggested more than once). Libertarians are loosey goosey on lots of things.

Don’t bother to reply. Save you energy for fighting the real bad guys....the dimorats and commies who want to destroy our country


36 posted on 04/25/2014 4:53:41 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You mean video like I just linked for you, in post 25?

I notice you keep pretending that we are discussing something else, and you keep using the broad terms like “Rand Paul is on record as being pro life and anti abortion.” repeated over and over, ignoring what this thread is about, his movement to a more vague and troubling place, which is disturbing the pro-life movement and conservatives.

Watch the video, that isn’t a pro-life warrior, that it is very Romney like.


37 posted on 04/25/2014 4:58:18 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

So you are admitting that you are unable to link me to an interview or a video of Ted Cruz putting forth a stronger pro life position than Rand Paul. OK. Just so we are all clear on that.


38 posted on 04/25/2014 5:02:05 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Nifster

Fine, you are a Cruz fan, no one has said any different.

I was addressing the stupid and strange elements of your posts directed at me, and your using Reagan in your aggressive defense of Rand Paul and his abortion position.

You may want to read your first couple of posts on this thread, rather than pretending that we were talking about Cruz.


39 posted on 04/25/2014 5:03:19 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Great, so this is the Rand Paul supporting strategy, just troll on threads and hijack them away from Paul.


40 posted on 04/25/2014 5:04:34 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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