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Joe Barton to push immigration overhaul that includes path to citizenship & amnesty for all
Dallas News ^ | Gromer Jeffers Jr.

Posted on 04/26/2014 3:05:31 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal

Rep. Joe Barton said Friday he was close to introducing a sweeping proposal that would overhaul the nation’s immigration system.

The plan will include a path to citizenship for undocumented children and a mechanism to give legal status to adults in the country illegally who have not committed other crimes.

Barton, R-Arlington, said his bill would be ready in a month to six weeks.

(Excerpt) Read more at trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; cornyn; cruz; gopamnesty; joebarton; marchant; mccain; stockman; teaparty; texas
Barton had come out for amnesty back in March at the Conversations with Conservatives. Claims he can just legalize them. I guess we won't have millions more crossing the border if we make them wait to officially vote until 2016 or 2020.
1 posted on 04/26/2014 3:05:31 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Legalization is amnesty. These Texas, CA, and FL Rep politicians see the rapid demographic changes and want to hold on to their jobs even if it means the eventual destruction of the country.


2 posted on 04/26/2014 3:13:37 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
...to give legal status to adults in the country illegally who have not committed other crimes.

The Great American Apartheid soon to commence.

3 posted on 04/26/2014 3:15:13 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

FUJB, RAT in RINO clothing.


4 posted on 04/26/2014 3:16:06 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Wiki says Barton is a member of the Tea Party caucus. And he’s for amnesty?


5 posted on 04/26/2014 3:17:30 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: kabar

and if this damn fool bastard is dumb enough to think that he’ll get a freaking vote from a former illegal after passing amnesty then he’s probably too stupid to know how to breathe on his own


6 posted on 04/26/2014 3:18:29 PM PDT by thestob (Paul Ryan is determined to destroy this country)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

What is it with these politicians?

They must lay awake at night dreaming up new schemes to give taxpayer money away.

Illegals seem to have excellent representation in congress and the senate.

It’s too bad that we legal citizens don’t have the same level of representation to protect our rights.


7 posted on 04/26/2014 3:25:26 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Do those things and illegal aliens will deport themselves and pay for the trip.

Until those things are done I will support no other measures. Period!

8 posted on 04/26/2014 3:25:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: thestob

He is more afraid of the legal immigrant vote. They vote two to one for the Dems.


9 posted on 04/26/2014 3:28:21 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

http://joebarton.com/contact/

There aren’t enough adult legal Hispanics yet to vote to bring gun control to Texas. That is still 10, 20 or 30 years away assuming no amnesty.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/house-s-most-conservative-members-soften-tone-on-immigration-20140312

“I think there is a middle ground. It’s not a citizenship path, but it is a legalization path,” Barton said, adding that “the overwhelming majority of the Hispanics in Texas are either there because they were born there or they’ve come there to work and they are working and they’re positive, productive citizens.”

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/house-s-most-conservative-members-soften-tone-on-immigration-20140312

BS. California was 90% white in 1940. I dont know what Texas was but most these Hispanics in Texas arrived after Ted Kennedy’s 1965 immigration bill. To suggest that all these people had a border jump across them is what La Raza suggests.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California
http://www.census.gov/population/www/documentation/twps0056/twps0056.html
In 1940, the Census Bureau reported California’s population as 6.0% Hispanic, 2.4% Asian, and 89.5% non-Hispanic white


10 posted on 04/26/2014 3:29:47 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

In 2014 here’s what we have.

Liberal Marxist Socialists == Democrats.

GOPe/RINOs/Establishment Repubs == Moderate Democrats (meaning their job is to slam Republicans to cave towards the democrat desires and wants on issues)

Anyone left not playing ball with Socialists or their Moderate Apologists == Evil Conservatives, aka the Reason For Everything Wrong in the Country Today


11 posted on 04/26/2014 3:31:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: thestob
Here are the demographics of the 6th District, Texas:

73.0% White, 13.0% Black, 3.5% Asian, 15.9% Hispanic, 0.5% Native American, 0.6% other

12 posted on 04/26/2014 3:31:46 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This guy is NO TEA Party Rep. He’s a career politician (been in office since 1985) and needs not just his butt kicked...but needs to be kicked off of the TP Caucus, NOW!


13 posted on 04/26/2014 3:33:09 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
Once Texas goes, the GOP is finished as a national party.

Immigration's Impact on Republican Political Prospects, 1980 to 2012

Part of Barton's district includes Tarrant county.


14 posted on 04/26/2014 3:36:08 PM PDT by kabar
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To: VRW Conspirator

“to give legal status to adults in the country illegally who have not committed other crimes.”

Until a judge gives them full citizenship 5 minutes later.


15 posted on 04/26/2014 3:36:21 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: kabar

Ken Marchant’s district is almost identical.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas%27s_24th_congressional_district

“The Republican primary voters, they’re being pretty vocal with me on this subject.” Besides, he said, “if you give the legal right to vote to 10 Hispanics in my district, seven to eight of them are going to vote Democrat.”

Many colleagues concur.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/immigration-splits-gops-national-house-interests

“My district is not in favor of creating a system where people who committed a crime can jump in front of those who have tried to come here based on the law,” said Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C., describing what he fears the Senate will pass.


16 posted on 04/26/2014 3:37:22 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
That jerk needs to be primaried out!!!
17 posted on 04/26/2014 3:38:05 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: headstamp 2

The 2 milion Dreamers sponsor 4 millin parents (even the deadbeat dads will get in), siblings and cousins.


18 posted on 04/26/2014 3:38:16 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: dalereed

He was primaried by Frank Kuchar who was attacking him on immigration. I don’t know how much money he had. As good as Ralph Hall is, I hope his self-deport opponent is somone they need in the delegation.

http://ballotpedia.org/Ralph_Hall#2014

“Ralph Hall Incumbent 45.4% 29,815
John Ratcliffe 28.8% 18,891”

http://ballotpedia.org/Joe_Barton#2014

“Joe Barton Incumbent 72.7% 32,579
Frank Kuchar 27.3% 12,260”


19 posted on 04/26/2014 3:41:14 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: thestob

Rand Paul found that out the hard way.
And he’ll find it out again if he runs on the position. He tried to reach out to some hispanic group the other day, and after the dust settled they were “deeply offended.”
I suppose they were offended that a non-Democrat thought he might be able to speak with them; and still, he and others will continue to toady to the foreign lawbreakers.
I suppose it’s too much to expect from our legislators that they might attempt to faithfully defend the nation’s laws as well as look out for America’s best interests. Our executive branch sure isn’t adhering to his oath. But we expect lawlessness from Democrats.
That’s the legislative goal and public policy behind the immigration and naturalization laws (from `86, the last time the government said, “Just this once!”) that’s why they were written: not to effect `social justice’ for Mexico’s citizenry overflow (10% of Mexico is in this country now) but what do immigrants have to offer us, other than increasing demands?
Furthermore, if this is the way they enforce old law, why would we expect them to enforce `new and improved’ immigration law any better?
All they want is amnesty, then it’s a dozen new `safe houses’ for each one operating now.
This is critical to keep in mind: When the amnesty shills say “comprehensive immigration reform” or “immigration reform” keep foremost in mind that all they want is amnesty and goodies from Uncle Sugar. Any accompanying laws/`sops’ will be given the same respect that current law is accorded. None.
In sum, our current government is lawless when it comes to protecting the American middle class.


20 posted on 04/26/2014 3:43:23 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: headstamp 2

And do these other crimes include ID theft, tax evasion, phony or stolen SSNs, working illegally, etc. Very few would qualify if these “other crimes” are counted.


21 posted on 04/26/2014 3:43:56 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Exactly why terms limits are necessary and must be the first priority of an Article V Convention.

These bastards are putting their own interests ahead of their constituents.

22 posted on 04/26/2014 3:46:54 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: kabar
"And do these other crimes include ID theft, tax evasion, phony or stolen SSNs, working illegally, etc. Very few would qualify if these “other crimes” are counted."

Exactly, none of the illegals here are guilty of only tip toeing across the border.

23 posted on 04/26/2014 3:52:31 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: kabar

I don’t know why you continue to post these crap stats. The US Census Bureau has been cooking the books for decades.

http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/census-faked-2012-election-jobs-report/

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/96103-lies-census-accused-lowering-unemployment-numbers-time-election/

http://spectator.org/articles/58777/damned-statistical-lies


24 posted on 04/26/2014 3:59:08 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Truth29
The Myth of the “Otherwise Law-Abiding” Illegal Alien

This Backgrounder details the many statutes the average illegal alien who is simply "here to work" may be violating. The violations include laws involving the entry, presence, and travel of illegal aliens as well as laws related to employment such as perjury and identity theft. Examples of oft-violated but under-enforced laws include:

False Personation of a U.S. Citizen (18 U.S.C. § 911). Illegal aliens often present themselves as U.S. citizens, an act punishable by up to five years in jail, a felony. This law is often cited in immigration prosecutions and may involve, for example, an alien claiming U.S. citizenship to his employer.

Fraud and False Statements (18 U.S.C. § 1001). It is common for illegal aliens to make false statements to the government or on official documents. An illegal alien violates this law when claiming to be a U.S. citizen on an I-9 Employment Eligibility form and faces a fine and up to five years imprisonment.

Social Security Fraud (42 U.S.C. § 408). This statute has been invoked where an illegal alien provided a false Social Security number for the purpose of acquiring a job, where an illegal alien used a fraudulent Social Security number for the purpose of acquiring a driver's license, and when an illegal alien used a Social Security card belonging to a citizen in order to obtain Section 8 housing, for example. Violation of this statute can result in a fine and/or imprisonment up to five years. The court can also require violators to provide restitution to the victims.

This Backgrounder does not address crimes of violence, property crimes like vandalism, or other acts like gang activity and drunk driving. The focus is on statutes that come into play when a person enters the country illegally or overstays a visa and becomes employed.

25 posted on 04/26/2014 4:02:13 PM PDT by kabar
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To: sergeantdave
I don’t know why you continue to post these crap stats. The US Census Bureau has been cooking the books for decades.

What "crap statistics" are you referring to specifically in my post #14?

26 posted on 04/26/2014 4:08:03 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
so, Texas huh ?


       

27 posted on 04/26/2014 4:15:09 PM PDT by tomkat (3% +1)
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To: kabar

“What “crap statistics” are you referring to specifically in my post #14?”

The entire US Census bureau numbers. Look, I’m not about to get into a pissing contest with you. I respect you as a patriot, but I think you’re off center by quoting US census numbers.

Why would any patriot believe any numbers from this criminal fascist government? Their entire design is to obfuscate, lie and push their leftist agenda.

I’ll leave it at that. Do what you will.


28 posted on 04/26/2014 4:23:05 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: thestob

Wait these bastards pass amnesty and realize 3/4 of GOP voters
don’t show up to vote in 2014, much less 2016 and beyond.

They won’t take the senate and they WILL lose the house, as well.
The power these hacks crave will be gone in an instant.
The like of which they have never seen before.


29 posted on 04/26/2014 4:37:03 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: sergeantdave
The entire US Census bureau numbers. Look, I’m not about to get into a pissing contest with you. I respect you as a patriot, but I think you’re off center by quoting US census numbers.

The numbers in the first chart come from Census Bureau numbers based on decennial census numbers as revised by the annual Current Population survey numbers, i.e., the populations of the 25 counties and the number of foreign born in each county.

So what numbers don't you believe and why would the Census Bureau cook the books on them. Are they understating or overstating the numbers and for what purpose?

There may or may not be Census Bureau manipulation of certain data re Obamacare or jobs, but it is tinfoil hat stuff when you start talking about population statistics based on census data. What is their political agenda in manipulating the population numbers for the counties and the estimated foreign born population? And exactly how are they manipulating it?

Why would any patriot believe any numbers from this criminal fascist government? Their entire design is to obfuscate, lie and push their leftist agenda. I’ll leave it at that. Do what you will.

As someone who worked 36 years for the federal government in the military and as a civilian, I find your characterization of the USG off base. I stopped working for the federal government in 2000. It was not a "criminal facist government" during my 36 years. Elected officials, political appointees, and a few career employees have acted in a criminal fashion, but the vast majority of government employees are patriots and many have made the ultimate sacrifice in the performance of their duties.

The point of the data I provided is to demonstrate that immigration will make the Dems the permanent majority party. Every year we bring in 1.1 million PERMANENT LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, 87% of whom are minorities as defined by the USG. They vote Dem two to one. If anyone needs any convincing in this regard, look at CA.

The nation’s immigrant population (legal and illegal) reached 40 million in 2010, the highest number in our history. The U.S. immigrant population has doubled since 1990, nearly tripled since 1980, and quadrupled since 1970, when it stood at 9.7 million. Of the 40 million immigrants in the country in 2010, 13.9 million arrived in 2000 or later making it the highest decade of immigration in American history, even though there was a net loss of jobs during the decade. And those are Census Bureau data, which probably understate the numbers.

Legalizing the 11 million illegals here coupled with another estimated 11 million family members who will join them thru chain migration on top of the 1.1 million who enter legally annually means that we will add 34 million new permanent immigrants over the next decade. This is insanity. We need to reduce drastically legal immigration or the country is finished. Amnesty just hastens the process.

30 posted on 04/26/2014 4:57:30 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Barton succeeded Phil Gramm in the House in 1985. He’s been there a long time and has more often than not been a useless one. At least at one time he was pro-life, but I don’t know if he still is.


31 posted on 04/26/2014 5:50:34 PM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: tennmountainman

Because Barton et al are closet liberals, they are willing in JFK’s words to “bear any burden, pay any price” to advance the liberal agenda. And with much support too from Republican primary voters, most of whom lack basic knowledge and understanding.


32 posted on 04/26/2014 5:52:35 PM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: TigersEye

Yep.


33 posted on 04/26/2014 6:01:06 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: Theodore R.

This POS is my congressman. I have voted against him in every primary and will skip voting for him this year. This betrayal is the end for me ever voting for him again. He did this after the primary was over. He has a very safe district and is a self absorbed creep. He cheated on his wife and now he is cheating on us.

Rot in hell Joe Barton.


34 posted on 04/29/2014 8:51:09 AM PDT by lone star annie
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