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The melting Arctic, and revolutions to come
The Ecologist - Setting the Environmental Agenda Since 1970 ^ | April 26, 2014 | Robert and Jack Hunziker

Posted on 04/27/2014 9:59:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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Eye-opener, isn't it? They are BEYOND radical.
1 posted on 04/27/2014 9:59:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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GAG! A$$holes, F them.


2 posted on 04/27/2014 10:01:05 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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The Arctic is not melting

http://a-sceptical-mind.com/the-arctic-is-not-melting


3 posted on 04/27/2014 10:03:29 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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The Ecologist - Setting the Environmental Agenda Since 1970

When the agenda was stopping global cooling.

4 posted on 04/27/2014 10:03:52 AM PDT by AU72
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There is a problem here....with a environmental guy who has no knowledge of cause and effect.

Once you get a fairly substantial amount of the ice to melt...it flows down off the side of Canada (east and west), and gets into the Atlantic and Pacific streams. This radically changes weather. The reason we know? It’s done it before. All of this will eventually bring about cooler temps which mean an eventual heavy snowfall in the north circles, and more creation of ice.

The thing about climate change....it’s eternal. You can’t stop it. To pretend that it’s all stable....is the fallacy of this whole mess.


5 posted on 04/27/2014 10:07:13 AM PDT by pepsionice
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They state lots of “facts” without support, and when they do, its as reported by the Super Duper Sky Is Falling Radical Environmentalist Foundation.


6 posted on 04/27/2014 10:07:17 AM PDT by Avid Coug
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lololololololololololol! Koolaid alert. See, higher education can have different meanings. Sounds like these clowns are not just educated, but high as well.


7 posted on 04/27/2014 10:07:21 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonianfivehundrian)
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The article explains why it is critical for the cause of government control to divert water from the incredibly productive central valley of California so as to save some obscure little fish. It will hasten the day when food shortages become a reality and the return of the central valley to it's original near-desert condition will be touted as proof of "extreme climate change".

Note how "global warming" has morphed into "climate change" and now, "extreme climate change". Next, no doubt, will be "catastrophic extreme climate change" or some other enhancement to try to convince people of something they would otherwise reject.

8 posted on 04/27/2014 10:10:35 AM PDT by William Tell
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I thought AlGore saved us from all of that global warming stuff?!?!?!

What with his preaching, and selling of ‘carbon credits’ etc..

Snowed a bit last night here in my town, a mere two hour drive from the border to ‘Old Mehico’

Third time this month. It’s April for crying out loud, not February. Used to be that the plants were sprouting, and the fruit trees were leafing well by this time.


9 posted on 04/27/2014 10:13:30 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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Joe Bastardi said yesterday that based on evidence that it ‘tain’t so.


10 posted on 04/27/2014 10:23:04 AM PDT by Paladin2
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should have more food if we can use the land after the ice melts. They don’t call it Greenland for nothing.


11 posted on 04/27/2014 10:26:07 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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“On August 20, 1986 Finance Minister Calonne informed King Louis XVI that the royal finances were insolvent.” I vividly remember that day. It was like when President Roosevelt got on TV to announce the 1929 stock market crash. The author mentions “the notoriety of Adolf Hitler and Genghis Khan.” Perhaps he forgot to mention Stalin and Mao. Stop buying Chinese products like Apples built built with slave labor. The Chinese are now the major polluters. Are Robert and Jack a couple? That may explain some of this flapdoodle.


12 posted on 04/27/2014 10:27:28 AM PDT by Vehmgericht
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Captured from Earth View 10 minutes ago.
13 posted on 04/27/2014 10:30:27 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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Umm
14 posted on 04/27/2014 10:34:32 AM PDT by Technocrat (Romney-Ryan 2012 No I'm not changing my Sig)
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So why wouldn't a warmer climate extend the agricultural zones and lead to LESS food shortages?

Vulcans would hate environmentalists.



15 posted on 04/27/2014 10:38:30 AM PDT by Bratch
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I coulda swore it was Teddy Ruse-evelt that went on TV in like 1906 or something. :>}


16 posted on 04/27/2014 10:40:45 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonianfivehundrian)
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To: Avid Coug

Wattsupwiththat.com has reams of charts on this subject:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/

Interesting, as you get to the Antarctic charts it looks as though ice cover there exceeds the norm at about the same level as Arctic ice cover recedes.

The Earth is in majestic balance.


17 posted on 04/27/2014 10:48:15 AM PDT by plangent
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According to the NSIDC (National Snow and Ice Data Center, Boulder, CO), "Average ice extent for March 2014 was the fifth lowest for the month in the satellite record. Through 2014, the linear rate of decline for March ice extent is 2.6% per decade relative to the 1981 to 2010 average."

As the saying goes: if you torture data enough, it'll tell you anything you want.

If you put the brakes on the spin cycle, here's what you're left with:

Ice extent for March 2014 is greater than it was for at least 4 other recent years. It's too early to tell whether this is the beginning of an upward trend; but, it is safe to say that an apparent downward trend has been put in serious doubt. We can't determine a trend from the annual data; but, if we were to take the average over an arbitrarily chosen time period and fudge the data by mixing decades with years, we could force the data to confess to a decline.

18 posted on 04/27/2014 10:50:25 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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I recently read an article on "the dust bowl" of the 1930's where they called it the worst man made ecological disaster of all time.........They blamed it on the farmers and their poor farming techniques........

It's hard to deal with stupid.....

19 posted on 04/27/2014 10:52:58 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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Some one throw some water on these warming fools...I’m melting, I’m melting!


20 posted on 04/27/2014 10:53:19 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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