Posted on 04/27/2014 10:11:09 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
Yes
Or is this really more an owner issue with unreliable dog training?
Yes
Both could have acted to avoid this tragic event.
The owner could have kenneled his dog knowing the LEO was on his way. The Deputy could have stayed in his car when he saw the dog in the back of the pickup.
“[The] dog shooting in Rains County this week [was] an unfortunate situation,”
Yeh unfortunate for psycho loon Deputy Dooley. Now he’s out on the street looking for more suitable work like a garage mechanic. No public interaztion with dogs or people.
My dogs were raised as family and I rely on their skills to protect me and mine from harm, that’s why I care for them. I will protect them with my skills accordingly.
His being late had nothing to do with the dog shooting. But the very idea that a cop on the job should have to go hide in his car is laughable.
I’m well - I spend more time traveling to see my grandchildren than I do online now; besides, forum debates have become less interesting with the absence of many former posters.
In any event, The Party seems to be making a schmozzle of Oceania without me poking a stick in their spokes, and the Ministry of Truth continues to entertain.
Thanks for your interest!
None of ours do, but its probably a good idea. That certainly could obviate the need to shoot a dog, wouldn't it? Are LEO's prohibited from carrying dog mace, or do they just like to shoot dogs?
I didnt say he had to hide in the car. I said it would have been the smart thing to do for him to stay in the car.
If he had stayed in the car he would have avoided the necessity of shooting a citizens animal. The fact that it was a trained working dog means that the animal was valuable property. It is not good public relations for a county sheriff when his officers negligently destroy valuable property.
I think the way events played out supports my argument.
I think all LEOs should think before they act. He could have thought when he arrived and saw the agitated dog in the pickup If I get out I may have to shoot this dog. If he had had that thought he might have stay in his car and we would never heard of him and he and the rancher would have lived their lives more happily.
My point was not that he was late. The point is that the fact that he arrived more than 2 ½ hours after the crime indicates there was no urgent need for him to exit his car.
I have seen my fair share of startled postal and UPS workers. Most of them have the same route day after day and they get to know the dogs pretty well.
Some avoid them at all costs, others carry treats for the “good” dogs, and others carry mace.
But the reality is most of them have a route. Often when I work with dogs on the real-life situation the postal/UPS workers get to know me and the dog. It gets to the point where we wave at each other, they often know the dog by name, and sometimes they’ll offer treats.
BUT, the big thing is to realize most of these route type workers see these dogs routinely and know when the dog is out of sorts and the dogs get to know them. Example: I recently had two little yipper Maltese out and about. The one barks at everything, which sets the other to growling and has bitten. They know the mail lady, but the mail lady was walking up the driveway, not in the truck...don’t you know the two went ballistic. Yes, they were on leash, but they put on enough of a display to startle the postal worker.
Contrast that against a LEO who is showing up and is a total stranger. Common courtesy if you had a new friend visiting you for the first time, you would be sure to have your dog under control. Why not when an officer is responding?
Based on what little we gain in information from the dashcam, the dog breached the truck bed to go after the deputy. Instead of asking me to explain the anecdotal evidence of your life experience, why not apply your experience to why the dog acted up towards the deputy and not the UPS driver?
I think that would apply to cops too. They need to be kept on a short leash. And put down when they are a threat to the lives and property of citizens.
Without even checking for the initial reason for the call in the first place.
Why? Is it beneath the dignity of cops to set in a car ‘til the resident controls his dog?
What kind of weak arugment is this??
Once again, how in tarnation do people that spend their entire careers going door to door, yard to yard on a DAILY basis ever survive without shooting dogs to death?
Most of them have the same route day after day and they get to know the dogs pretty well.
So postal employees know all the dogs huh? Why do they carry pepper spray/mase?
BTW, what about the cable installers, gas, electrical, utility workers, those in construction, pest control people, painters, roofers, paramedics, pool people, landscapers, those who install tv internet dishes, plumbers, UPS, FED EX etc, etc??
All these people do is go onto strange properties.
What about millions of these employees?
They go into more homes and properties than cops ever do...
Why don't they shoot pets and dogs to death?
Why can’t the resident control his dog in the first place, especially when one knows a stranger is going to show up?
They go into more homes and properties than cops ever do...
you have your answer right there, you yourself stated it and yet you want to insist that cops should know better?
Did you really watch that dashcam video? A dog come at me like that and no owner around to control it? Why doesn’t the dog go after the UPS man like that?
What are you talking about?
You seem very evasive.
You stated postal workers know all the dogs because they go to the same homes on their routes, suggesting they are friendly with all of them, know them and have no need to shoot them to death.
What about the cable installers, gas, electrical, utility workers, those in construction, pest control people, painters, roofers, paramedics, pool people, landscapers, those who install tv internet dishes, plumbers, UPS, FED EX etc, etc??
How do all these millions of people survive without shooting pets and dogs to death??
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“... indicating that she was fleeing.”
It indicates no such thing. The LEO scum had to be a good shot to the back of the head for a fleeing dog. Not believable. Most likely, the dog approached, and not posing any threat or sensing any threat, turned its head, and scumbag LEO assassinated him from behind.
They had a necropsy done.
The dog was shot in the back of the head in such a way that the vet was sure the dog was running away when shot.
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