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If you quote Winston Churchill on this topic, you could go to jail in modern-day Great Britain
Blaze ^ | Apr. 27, 2014 10:58pm | Benjamin Weingarten

Posted on 04/28/2014 3:47:11 PM PDT by robowombat

If you quote Winston Churchill on this topic, you could go to jail in modern-day Great Britain

Apr. 27, 2014 10:58pm Benjamin Weingarten

Recently there have been a spate of free speech controversies, from Phil Robertson’s temporary suspension from Duck Dynasty for comments made on homosexuality and race, to the resignation of Firefox CEO Brandon Eich over a political donation made six years ago in support of traditional marriage, to the revocation of an honorary degree and cancellation of a commencement speech to be delivered by human rights activist and Muslim apostate Hirsi Ali at Brandeis University for critical statements on Islam.

But Americans can take heart that they are not subjected to the stringent speech laws of Great Britain, where an event transpired this past weekend that takes the cake when it comes to censorship.

Paul Weston delivers remarks in Winchester. (Image Source: libertygb.org.uk) Paul Weston delivers remarks in Winchester. (Image Source: libertygb.org.uk) Paul Weston, a member of the GB Liberty Party, and current candidate for the South East England constituency of the European Union Parliament, delivered a speech in Winchester, a part of his constituency, in which he quoted from Winston Churchill’s 1899 book, “The River War: An Account of the Reconquest of the Sudan.” In particular, Weston quoted Churchill on the topic of Islam. As a result of his speech (and his refusal to stop speaking), Weston was arrested.

Here is the passage that Weston quoted from Churchill’s book on the steps of Winchester Guildhall during the afternoon of April 26th, while addressing a group of passers-by on the street via megaphone:

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities – but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”

As the Liberty Party press release on Weston’s arrest noted, following this portion of his remarks:

“Reportedly a woman came out of the Guildhall and asked Mr Weston if he had the authorisation to make this speech. When he answered that he didn’t, she told him “It’s disgusting!” and then called the police.

Six or seven officers arrived. They talked with the people standing nearby, asking questions about what had happened. The police had a long discussion with Mr Weston, lasting about 40 minutes.

At about 3pm he was arrested. They searched him, put him in a police van and took him away.”

Paul Weston is detained by police in Winchester. (Image Source: libertygb.org.uk press release) Paul Weston is detained by police in Winchester. (Image Source: libertygb.org.uk) We reached out to Mr. Weston for details on what transpired via email, and he wrote [with slight grammar modifications ours, and a link inserted per Weston's email]:

“I was initially arrested because my words were likely to cause “distress” to those listening. I was told to move on, or face arrest for breaching a “Section 27 Dispersal Notice.” When I refused to stop speaking I was arrested under this article, and taken to Winchester (in the county of Hampshire) police station and locked up for several hours.

I was then “re-arrested” in the police station after the police had made “enquiries” and charged with a ”Section 4 Racially Aggravated crime” under the Public Order Act, which carries a potential sentence of 2 years imprisonment.”

We contacted the Winchester police station for any details and/or comments, and will update accordingly.

Churchill’s “The River War,” from which Weston quoted, is a historical account of Great Britain’s re-conquest of the Sudan during the Mahdist War, in which Churchill participated as a member of the British Army. It includes his views on not only Islam, but the British attitude toward the war, modern weaponry at such time and Churchill’s critiques of his superiors, among other topics.

Weston’s invocation of Churchill in his criticism of Islam is consistent with the Liberty Party’s views on the religion, as reflected in its Manifesto:

“Liberty GB considers the threat of Islamist extremism in the 21st century to be comparable to that of Nazism in the 20th century. This is not driven by a racial/religious dislike of Muslims, but by the knowledge of the violent and expansionist history of Islam driven by the Koranic verses laid out by the prophet and warlord Mohammed.”

The Manifesto goes on to propose a number of associated legal, immigration, cultural/social, financial, religious and foreign affairs policies, “In order to protect our [Great Britain's] traditional liberal democracy and the rights of women, homosexuals, Christians, Jews, non-Muslims and all those threatened by a resurgence of militant Islam.”

Weston, for his part, is no stranger to controversy, as echoed in a number of politically incorrect videos he has posted to Youtube, including his most-watched video, with over 220,000 views, “My name is Paul Weston, and I am a racist.”


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I have used this quotation myself on the internet often and in written communications and in an abridged form on radio call in shows. So this is what progressivism produces. This is what the nation that defied the might of Nazi Germany is now reduced to. It would appear if WSC came back and walked among his countrymen he would be denounced as a racist and arrested. Sic transit gloria mundi.
1 posted on 04/28/2014 3:47:11 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

It’s the UK. Normal response. Now if he was quoting MoHammad about killing infidels then that would okay.


2 posted on 04/28/2014 3:52:13 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: robowombat

But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science.


3 posted on 04/28/2014 3:53:20 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: robowombat

Winston was quite the warrior. He was unceremoniously dumped as PM after WWII was won. He was booted from the First Lord of the Admiralty in WWI and then went to the trenches to fight. He was responsible for the first tanks to be used in war...even though he thought their implementation should have waited, true as it turned out.


4 posted on 04/28/2014 4:00:07 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: robowombat
There is not one word which Churchill uttered in this quote which is not just as true today, if not more so. There are many fine individuals whom are Muslim and I've personally known some. But they would be considered apostate under strict definition of the faith.

I would love to see Islam reborn as a tolerant faith, but if it was open and tolerant, it would be unable to compete with any brand of Christianity, Judaism or even Buddhism.

5 posted on 04/28/2014 4:01:21 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: robowombat

Islam is not a race


6 posted on 04/28/2014 4:02:48 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: robowombat

Should’ve held the Koran and read from it...

Anyway, the UK is gone. Last time I went I saw so many women wearing burkas.


7 posted on 04/28/2014 4:12:13 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: robowombat

Since the time of Churchill, britain has come to hate itself. It allows screaming bearded savages to infest their country and to kill, rape and maim people.
It keeps normal people out who tell the truth about the bearded savages.
It deserves what is coming to it.


8 posted on 04/28/2014 4:13:31 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Ask me what I think.)
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To: robowombat

When does a muslim ascend the Throne?


9 posted on 04/28/2014 4:22:16 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Vigilanteman
I would love to see Islam reborn as a tolerant faith

That would be difficult because Muslims believe the Koran is the word of God given to Muhammed through the angels. You don't argue or parse God's words.
Also the Hadiths are the life and times of Muhammed and an example of how to be a Muslim.
(Gee, I just want to go fishing I don't want to be killing other people)

Allah's rules are not negotiable or as easy to twist as the marching orders are in other religion.
If God wants you to kill people who will not become Muslims, is a Fundamental Muslim going to argue about that? One of the reasons a so-called moderate Muslim can't win an argument in a Mosque with fundamental Muslims,is the Koran and Hadiths are pretty explicit in what is expected of Muslims and their relationships with us Infidels.

It would be very hard to contort Islam to being something it was never intended to be. -Tom

10 posted on 04/28/2014 5:28:27 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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It would be very hard to contort Islam to being something it was never intended to be. -Tom

Libtards have done a pretty good job doing exactly that with Christianity.

11 posted on 04/28/2014 5:55:25 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Libtards have done a pretty good job doing exactly that with Christianity.

Christianity is a much easier religion to twist around because it lacks absolute unquestioable dictates like the Muslims get in the Koran. The bible is translated differently in Catholic and Christian heretical sects (Protestants).
Simple basic instructions like "Thou shalt not kill." are open to interpretation because it does not tell you what not to kill. Animals? People who are attacking you? People who have murdered someone. Or should you not murder someone? Is it OK to kill some things but not others?

>Allah is pretty specific in the Koran about what he wants done, and how to do it. In many cases it is repeated in another chapter so you don't miss he point and try to worm your way out of obligations as a Muslim just because you don't want to get Infidel blood on your hands. And if there is a little doubt left, red he Hdiths nd follow the example of Muhammed in how to fight and kill the Infidels. -tom

12 posted on 04/28/2014 6:17:04 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: robowombat

Bfl


13 posted on 04/28/2014 6:47:50 PM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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To: robowombat

Bookmark


14 posted on 04/28/2014 7:58:50 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: RginTN

London isn’t the UK. Get out and see more of it.


15 posted on 04/29/2014 1:09:13 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: onedoug

Never, and that includes the Charles nonsense.


16 posted on 04/29/2014 1:10:27 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: I want the USA back

The normals still make it a good country and one worth fighting for.


17 posted on 04/29/2014 1:11:29 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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