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Your Government Owes You a Job
The Nation ^ | April 23, 2014 | Raúl Carrillo

Posted on 04/29/2014 12:47:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Bob

Sounds like an excuse for the work/concentration camps.


21 posted on 04/29/2014 3:04:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually, I do somewhat agree with the guy.

Anyone who gets welfare should be required to work for it. Pick up trash, clear out vacant lots, maintain parks, etc. Maybe if the welfare weren’t just handed out for doing nothing, they’d have a bit of incentive to make themselves eligible for real jobs and actually improve their lives for a change.


22 posted on 04/29/2014 3:08:11 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A job guarantee isn’t that radical. Thomas Paine proposed one in 1791. In 1944, FDR included the right to a living wage job in his Second Bill of Rights and his Republican opponent promised state-ensured employment. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights enshrined the right to work and philosophers Rawls and Dewey advocated government provide enough work. LBJ deliberated a JG and Martin Luther King Jr., demanded one.

So, out of the hundreds of millions of people that have lived in the U.S. these are five that got it right, right?

23 posted on 04/29/2014 3:14:25 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: exDemMom

Pick up trash, clear out vacant lots, maintain parks, etc....And the NLRB or somebody would be on you like a ton of bricks for taking jobs away from AFSCME,UAW or some union. Of course WE know they aren’t doing it in the first place but Courts have upheld the as they COULD do this work.


24 posted on 04/29/2014 3:16:22 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Anyhow, even “make work” is better than nothing when it is something good and useful that is made

One would think this not knowing government in its usual modus operandi. It's true there might be 'something good and useful' produced, but how good is it if the money it took to get there was stolen from someone who produced that money on their own - provided good and useful value for it - and then had it taken from them. How much 'good and useful' stuff could they have done with it had they not had it taken from them.

The problem with these government funded jobs is the massive wasteful administrative bureaucracy it takes to oversee the disbursement of the booty. Couple that with the outright graft and corruption often associated with it and you have nothing but a few dollars thrown around some blighted urban area that doesn't even amount to hardly anything.

25 posted on 04/29/2014 3:19:13 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: raybbr

Where is charity in this picture? Private church/religious charity used to be stellar in America, then Caesar wheedled the church charities into letting his “efficiency” take their place. Some efficiency, it is a skim and scam job today.


26 posted on 04/29/2014 3:21:29 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Gaffer

This is why I say better than nothing. Even better is taking the strangle holds off of the private market and letting it do what private markets generally do. Case in point is what happened to GM and Chrysler. They should have died and their pieces auctioned. By being basket cases, they offer less value to the world than they would as totally private affairs — and somebody would have bought them and made something out of them.


27 posted on 04/29/2014 3:24:17 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The US government can easily afford a Job guarantee (JG) program, becoming our employer of last resort.”

“Easily afford?” What a blithering idiot. The US Government is deeply in debt. It can no more afford some new utopian entitlement than a college student with four credit cards maxed out and 50K in loans can afford to take his buddies out for a gourmet meal with drinks.


28 posted on 04/29/2014 3:33:44 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: willywill

Bingo. It would quickly devolve into something like the “Summer Jobs” program did—pay people just for showing up somewhere (for an hour to two a day) and wearing a t-shirt. Trying to make the underclass do actual hard labor would be labeled “racist” in no time. Can’t have that.


29 posted on 04/29/2014 3:52:39 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Agreed.


30 posted on 04/29/2014 3:52:57 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not an economist, but common sense tells me this.....
pencil pushing, paper shuffling, cleaning, building roads, etc. are all essential jobs, not these kind of jobs do not PRODUCE anything. A strong economy cannot be based on only service type jobs. There must also be production of goods to be sold for a profit. Our government (and the unions) now makes it difficult, if not impossible, for the producer businesses to make a profit. And it is producer industry that created good-wage-paying jobs for masses of blue collar workers in the past.


31 posted on 04/29/2014 3:58:42 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: MaxMax

“People who live off the Gov should not be allowed to vote.”

Absolutely, because if you rob Peter to pay Paul you will ALWAYS have the support of Paul. Here in NJ that has had disastrous consequences, as taxpayers (corporate and individual) flee the tax burdens imposed by our government workers and unassimilated gibsmedats.

Saw on the news last night that tax revenue projections were missed by $750 million; we need to get back into the layoff mode we had for gubmint workers a few years ago...


32 posted on 04/29/2014 4:13:21 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Olog-hai

“The federal government can easily afford a job guarantee program …”

“Of course, because money that is printed always has value no matter what.”

Actually, they are just doling out wages with no return at all right now; if they can afford to do that, they can afford to make the recipients get off their asses and do something...


33 posted on 04/29/2014 4:16:21 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No one has a RIGHT for a job. They have to EARN the job.

The problem we have here in the United States is that the ever increasing “Jack booted thug” (the government) has made unemployment by “feeding the animals” and choking free enterprise to death by regulations, taxes and laws.

Get the government out of business and quit feeding the animals and everyone will be better off. Those with ambition and work ethic will thrive while the animals that once sat on their butts and got fed will be forced to “forage” for their food and shelter....and that means they have to get off their asses and actually WORK.


34 posted on 04/29/2014 4:28:40 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy’s got his head so far up his @$$ that he’s hallucinating from lack of oxygen.


35 posted on 04/29/2014 4:32:53 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another college indoctrinated moron.

Yes, what we need here is another government directed, Soviet style “busy work” economy.


36 posted on 04/29/2014 4:55:35 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: rbg81

Knowing the government, they would all be unionized.


37 posted on 04/29/2014 5:00:07 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OMW! This clown is serious, and this isn’t the Onion!


38 posted on 04/29/2014 5:14:13 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Bob

Yeah, scary world we live in now.


39 posted on 04/29/2014 5:18:29 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: exDemMom
Anyone who gets welfare should be required to work for it. Pick up trash, clear out vacant lots, maintain parks, etc.

The unions would never let that happen unless, of course, those welfare recipients were forced to join the unions, and then the operation would cause the government even deeper into debt.

40 posted on 04/29/2014 5:31:17 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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