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Little Falls Man Found Guilty On All Four Counts Of Murder
SeeBS ^ | 4-29-14 | cbs

Posted on 04/29/2014 1:57:58 PM PDT by TurboZamboni

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To: Iscool
They could have healed and come after him for shooting them

Or they could have learned their lesson after spending some time in the hospital and in juvenile hall and put all this juvenile delinquency behind them like a whole lot of people in this adult world and on this forum who probably did such things as teenagers and worse.

Teenagers do stupid things -- that's why juvenile records are buried, because teenagers often outgrow juvenile delinquency like these kids would have.

121 posted on 04/29/2014 7:24:25 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: wideawake
It's hilarious to me that you like to pretend to be a Christian.

Oh, a Christian should just sit down and make himself comfortable while they bash in his head with a baseball bat, or shoot him with one of his own guns that they stole previously...

122 posted on 04/29/2014 7:29:28 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Iscool
Let's put aside the fact that he had been watching them on video for a good while and knew that they were unarmed. Let's also put aside that his claim that they stole weapons from him was never substantiated.

What does Matthew 5:39 say?

123 posted on 04/29/2014 7:33:25 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake; Uncle Chip
Here's some interesting backstory - he knew the kids, had hired them, and was robbed and threatened for months, couldn't sleep, driven out of his mind with stress. Judge refused to allow the jury to hear any of this!

Minnesota intruder trial - what the jury DIDN'T hear: Homeowner had befriended teen burglars he shot dead in his basement - but they were part of gang that drove him crazy for a year by ‘treating his estate like a candy store’

124 posted on 04/29/2014 7:36:40 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

A 14-minute audio clip from his home security system was played for jurors in a Morrison County courthouse during his murder trial on Tuesday, according to the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/jury-listens-chilling-audio-minnesota-man-fatally-shooting-teen-intruders-article-1.1765846

and yet:

A high-dollar Obama donor who was caught on video brutally beating his girlfriend got off with 25 hours of community service... CCTV footage caught Gurbaksh Chahal, the CEO of San Francisco tech startup RadiumOne, kicking his girlfriend 117 times, including blows to the head, and trying to smother her with a pillow during a vicious 30-minute assault. He faced 45 felony charges until the footage was deemed inadmissible...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3148783/posts


125 posted on 04/29/2014 7:46:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

In the last year on this forum alone there have been countless cases of homeowners mistaking boyfriends, stepdaughters, alzheimers patients, girls wandering from car accidents, .... and shooting them dead — all under the delusion that their home is more sacred than human life that comes to it.

This psycho was operating under the illusion that these were the perps that burglarized his home a month earlier — and he was wrong — just as the homeowners pulling the triggers above were also wrong. He shot them out of misplaced anger not fear — out of vengeance for something that someone else may have done.

Just because you are the one with the gun doesn’t make you morally superior. Rights come with responsibilities and part of that is making sure that you have thought of the consequences of pulling that trigger.

Is that too difficult for you???


126 posted on 04/29/2014 7:48:06 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Talisker

There was another group of kids who practiced their band in his garage until they either left or were told to leave.

Are you sure he’s not talking about those kids???


127 posted on 04/29/2014 7:56:41 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: SandwicheGuy

Dishonest?

I posted two of your disjointed complete sentences...The rest is meaningless. If someone posts 15 paragraphs, are we required to post all of it?

Anyone who thinks what this person did was even remotely legitimate, rational, reasonable or legal, has either not read all the details, or has very serious thought processing issues.

That includes you.

Cheers!


128 posted on 04/29/2014 8:17:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Go burgle a house.


129 posted on 04/29/2014 8:42:56 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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To: SandwicheGuy
Sincerely, you believe this? Join the Taliban.

I'm speaking as a lawyer. To slightly paraphrase the law in New York, just as an example, someone is guilty of murder if he intends to kill a person and kills that person or another person. But he is not guilty if he reasonably believes that killing that person is necessary to defend himself against unlawful deadly force by that person.

So, yes, the difference between murder and self-defense is defined purely by the defendant's mental state.

130 posted on 04/29/2014 8:50:42 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Uncle Chip

According to the article, it seems that the “kids” were the perps.


131 posted on 04/29/2014 9:05:15 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker
According to the article, it seems that the “kids” were the perps.

According to the article, the defendant's lawyer says that the victims were the perps in prior burglaries. But the defendant didn't take the stand in his trial, so he never put that defense before the jury.

132 posted on 04/29/2014 9:07:50 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
According to the article, the defendant's lawyer says that the victims were the perps in prior burglaries. But the defendant didn't take the stand in his trial, so he never put that defense before the jury.

I guess it was a decision between exposing him to cross-examination, versus getting the information out about being harrassed and invaded and terrorized. But still, it seems the latter outweighs the former by a wide margin. It doesn't seem that he got the best defense.

133 posted on 04/29/2014 11:21:21 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Jarhead9297

Find the word “police officer” in the Constitution. Sorry, but people have more rights than government entities and its on-duty employees.


134 posted on 04/30/2014 3:33:10 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Enough of the high drama. They criminally trespassed, b&e-d and he shot them to death. Everything else is noise and petty drama.


135 posted on 04/30/2014 3:46:59 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Talisker; Uncle Chip
So he knew who they were, he knew their habits, and who their parents were?

If I were the judge I would have excluded that as well - it would have been prejudicial towards, and even more damning for, the defendant.

136 posted on 04/30/2014 4:39:38 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Lurking Libertarian
So, yes, the difference between murder and self-defense is defined purely by the defendant's mental state.

Thank you for your explanation and of course you are correct according to our laws. I was thinking more of the Biblical 'Eye for and eye' philosophy in that the two miscreants were burglaring his house. He killed them. Whether it was merciful or not, if the pair had not been in his house illegally, they would not have been shot.

What, we are up to 23 linear feet of Federal law and the Ten Commandments, including the one about not stealing, takes up one page. Sometimes the law is an ass.

137 posted on 04/30/2014 4:48:00 AM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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To: wideawake; Talisker

Absolutely — that article is damning to Smith.

Neither he nor this Anderson guy ever picked up the phone to call these kid’s parents??? even though he knew their names and where they lived.

And he never confronted them??? and this Anderson guy never advised him to call the parents or the police and to name names.

Talisker, please post this article — I have some real tough questions for this Anderson person.


138 posted on 04/30/2014 4:48:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Two tweakers who won't be burglarizing any more houses.

I love a story with a happy ending!

139 posted on 04/30/2014 5:17:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I love a story with a happy ending!

Ohh I wouldn't consider the death of two teenagers and Byron Smith having to spend the rest of his life behind bars "a happy ending" but this incident has brought out the pervertedness of a lot of people.

140 posted on 04/30/2014 5:22:17 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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